The Irony Of This Is Not Lost On Me
By Janey1966
@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
August 23, 2010 5:55pm CST
How ironic that the Taliban have a major stronghold in northern Pakistan, yet the "ordinary people" of that country are suffering terribly due to the recent floods.
Why oh why is it left to (mainly) Saudi Arabia, the US and the UK to donate aid to Pakistan? Where are the rest the cowards. Aid means that you donate no matter where that country is situated. A disaster is a disaster, no matter where that country may be.
Correct?
The UK has donated nearly £30million in aid so far which is amazing. I don't know how much the US has donated as it hasn't been publicised here. But I bet it's a lot! Saudi Arabia tops the league, I believe. In my opinion, it makes no difference if a government is corrupt or not, the fact that some aid IS getting through should make other countries get their collective wallets out. Agreed?
I only hope that the Taliban don't start recruiting the disaffected that know nothing of our efforts to help them but their own government chooses to ignore their suffering.
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@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
24 Aug 10
I guess you didnt hear about Canada giving 30Millions and offering to back all amount donated by Canadians.
Problem is, most Pakistans living here are NOT donating.......so makes one wonder whats going on!!!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 Aug 10
No I didn't hear about that..sorry. Why are the Pakistanis not donating, they are here which probably makes up much of the £30million so far.
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@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
24 Aug 10
Apparently they say that the Talibans will take charge of the money given and it'll go to buy military equipment. So if the Pakistans themselves wont give any money not many are right now here.......except for our government of course.
I feel sorry for these people but it seems its a never ending problem with government not giving the money to the people but keeping it for themselves.
Take Haiti now, all the money sent is being used for the election.....A lot of money to elect another corrupt President.
@ScrambledBrains (143)
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24 Aug 10
The danger is that the Taliban will use their own charity work to act as a recruitment drive - I believe they also came to people's aid during the Kashmir earthquake.
I have a bad feeling that the Taliban will simply ban outside influences from areas they control, so that the only "helpers" that the ordinary people see will be Taliban. The government of Pakistan doesn't have much influence in the north at the best of times, and politics generally is seen as corrupt.
"Serving the people" is ultimately how the Afghan Taliban got started - they were admired for stamping out corruption and their willingness to impose Islamic law - by the time people realised what their true colours really were, it was too late to stop them.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 Aug 10
Thanks very much for that informative response, it's helped me to understand what is going on in the north of the country. Yes, I agree, it is frightening isn't it? Because of the floods that area is even more isolated now so recruitment has gotta be higher as a result. Plays into the Taliban's hands, unfortunately.
@ScrambledBrains (143)
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24 Aug 10
Just to add, part of the problem with the way Pakistan is run is that it has what's known as the "Federally Administered Tribal Areas". These areas aren't officially part of any province, and are ruled directly by the central government - the problem is that the central government has very little influence in the area, and because the FATA have never been incorporated into a province, there's a power vacuum where the district courts, provincial parliament, provincial authorities etc. should be - a vacuum that the Taliban are easily able to fill either through military strength or tribal loyalty/allegiance.
Something else to consider is that the Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa (previously North-West Frontier) province is inhabited by ethnic Pashtuns, who also live in southern Afghanistan and from whose areas the Taliban originally formed (specifically the city of Kandahar in southern Afghanistan). So, the reason the Taliban are so tough to fight is that the Afgh-Pak border is effectively completely open for them - tribal loyalty very often counts for more than national loyalty, especially if the person demanding your loyalty is threatening to kill you if he doesn't get it.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
25 Aug 10
Wow, that's highly informative, thanks. You certainly know your stuff my friend, I'm impressed.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
24 Aug 10
Hi Janey... I don't about others... But the Govt of Pak has been accepting funds from anyone who is going to help... And you know what, half of it will not even reach those who need it... It'll be consumed by the machinations of Govt. And Taliban is going to make the most of the affected crowd.. They are definitely going to win the sympathy of those who have suffered and will recruit their new divisions from it... Selfishness has no bounds!!!!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 Aug 10
I hope that doesn't happen but - in this cynical world we live in..it probably will..unfortunately.
@vandana7 (100297)
• India
24 Aug 10
Hi Janey, we are perpetually at loggerheads with that country. But I am touched by our leaders' gesture of offering some aid, which Pakistan dilly dallied in accepting of course. We promised that it would have no strings attached, and so Pakistan has a right to complain that India is deliberately releasing water from Rabi river into its territory. Now, why didn't we think of that before? It would be less expensive than fighting a dam* war!!!
And one more thing. There are educated - yes educated - Pakistanis - who believe Taliban is right!!! Even out here. :) So I can understand some Indians resenting the aid, saying the government will either use it on arms, or put it in swiss banks. However, I still feel, in emergency - it is every hand to the pump. Who knows, we might have to join hands tomorrow against aliens. We might as well do it now. We surely dont need aliens to unite us, do we? :)
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
24 Aug 10
I'm so pleased you are an optimist. There should be more people like you my friend.
You are right, it would be a great opportunity to "unite" for once. Wouldn't that be great?
Such a shame that even the Pakistan cricket team can't even play in their own country. They're a lovely bunch of guys too, I feel sorry for them. Nothing to do with the floods, it was a decision made based on how volatile their own country is.