The Right to change you mind but Be ready for him not to.

United States
August 24, 2010 11:02am CST
I just heard a story where a couple had a pact. Both didn't want children so they vowed that if she got pregnant they would abort. she got pregnant and she had the abortion. But then she got pregnant again and she decided to keep this baby.Now she is suing for child support.I think she has the right to change her mind, but thinking because she wants this child that he will too is unrealistic. She may get money from him but not a loving father figure for her baby. She has the right to keep the baby And he has the right Not to want to have Any contact with the child. Financially, he Has to pay for the child but Love the child , no! If she thinks he will be the perfect father , she is mistaken.and if he Really resents the child, he shouldn't visit him/her. Your thoughts.
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@meowcow (931)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
That's sad... Well, since I don't know the full back story I can only comment in terms of assumption. But my guess is, she probably felt a little, and by a little I mean a lot of guilt after the first child was aborted. And that's what made her change her mind on her next baby. And I think maybe she is not thinking very rationally at the moment, and acting out of anger that's why she's suing her husband. She's lashing out because somehow she blames him for the loss of the first child and she blames herself as well. I would not be sure of the stability of either one of the parents right now. Both of them probably need a lot of counseling and sort it out that way instead of court. The mind feels things sometimes that we don't. If either one of them wakes up to reality then all of this will be sorted out. You are right, in this case, preferably it's the mother who needs to wake up from unrealistic delusions. She doesn't need child support, women these days are awesomely independent. But it's probably just love. It kinda tends to screw your mind to bits sometimes. But unfortunately for everyone involved, especially the baby, I don't think pacts hold up that well in court.
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• United States
25 Aug 10
They are not married. I think she will get money but love and support, not a chance. If I were the guy, I would pay so I Don't have to see the child.I would look at the money as a way to pay her to me alone!He said it point blank no children. that I admire. If she thought she could change his mind, she was wrong.
• United States
26 Aug 10
You are welcome.i think every couple should talk about children, when or If they want them. and really listen. I can't help think she thought he was going to change his mind like she did and he did not.i can't help think that all of this could have been avoided.
@meowcow (931)
• Philippines
25 Aug 10
I completely agree. Any adult should step up in any situation, law or not. Since it has already happened, it is bigger than both of them now. She is definitely wrong about her assumptions and like I said, it's probably more about guilt than anger on her part. That's why she be acting all irrational. Sad thing is, amidst all of this, their child is the one who is going to get the most damage. I just hope that through the course of the next few years or decades, that he or she will persevere and become even stronger as a result. It really makes you think about where our own lines on right and wrong really stand. And how irrational we can get when emotions set in sometimes. Thank you for sharing this story with us, sarah. +!
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
25 Aug 10
I do not endorse the views of that woman, as far as she suing her husband is concerned. Firstly, she is also responsible for her pregnancy (why did she go for unprotected s*x?). If she wants to bear the child and sues the father of the child, father will never support her in upbringing of the child, except for money.
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• United States
26 Aug 10
They weren't married. I agree All she will get is money. If he Still doesn't want kids , he'll just send a check and stay away.
@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
26 Aug 10
It is upto that woman what she actually wants.
@urbandekay (18278)
25 Aug 10
If you hold that she has the right to have the child or abort and thereby have or not have the financial responsibility that that entails then you must hold that he also has the right to accept or not accept the financial responsibility or you are being discriminatory all the best urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
26 Aug 10
You mean a pre-coital agreement. More money for lawyers all the best urban
• United States
26 Aug 10
I agree.The problem is the courts.Women have the right to choose but men do not. I think he should get In writing that there will be no kids and if there is a baby is formed it is either aborted or he does not have to pay.Without this the court will make the guy pay. What the courts can't do is make a guy be a dad. He either wants the child or he doesn't. The way it is now he Has to pay for a child he didn't want.
@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
25 Aug 10
Since the girl keep the baby she must be ready to face a heavy burden because having a child with out a financial support from the father of the baby is indeed very difficult. But I admired her this time because she keep the baby alive and I'm sure whatever difficulties she may face in the future she will be much stronger because she had a baby inside her. I just hope that the father of the baby will find it in to his heart to accept the child as his own flesh and blood. After all the child was made because of them. I just felt pity for the baby.
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• United States
26 Aug 10
True they made this baby but to think he will just change his mind may be unrealistic.He may still see the baby as a mistake , a big mistake.I am also glad she chose to have the baby. She wanted a baby I assume so noe she will have one!
• Indonesia
25 Aug 10
If she wants to keep the baby, she should leave his husband if he doesn't want to get involved with it. But if she's a working mom, then I suggest her to not asking for a child support. Why would she ask money for someone that doesn't even care whether your baby is exist or not. It's just not worth it. But if she doesn't have an income to support her new life, then her husband better be giving her what she needs.
• United States
26 Aug 10
The couple was not married.I agree. If he Doesn't want a child , then from the moment she decided to keep the baby, she is the only parent. If she is working , then support would be nice but not Too necessary. But if she has no job yet, then support is Needed.
@jailo12 (332)
• Philippines
25 Aug 10
what is a family without a child ..if the marry each other then part of it is having a child ..they're not being realistic, they dont know what happiness a child could bring ..
• United States
26 Aug 10
They weren't married. There are many families Without children. There are married couples who Can't have kids and others who choose Not to have kids. A couple can become a family without kids. There are many couples who never marry and they have many kids. marriage these days isn't Just to have children.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I agree, it's her right to change her mind, and because of the way the courts are designed he is required to pay, but if he doesn't reform I wouldn't expect him to be a good dad. Father yes, dad, no. As the child of a single mom I can tell you there is difference.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
24 Aug 10
Oh Sarah! This is terrible and my sympathies are with the unborn child. When this woman got into an agreement , she must have thought twice.No child asks to be born in this world and such a situation is terribly undesirable.
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• United States
24 Aug 10
I agree. I don't know if the woma thought he would change his mind, Obviously he didn't. But there is hope. She can find a guy Who Wants to be a dad. Love is thicker a bloodline!
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I am working with a gal right now that is in the same situation.....her husband it not happy. He was not wanted by his parents and emotionally abused because of it. So now she is pregnant and she says that he is coming around....we'll see. I think if she made that decision on her own she should be responsible....or she should have used birth control after the first incident.
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• United States
25 Aug 10
I hope the gal at work is right about her husband. Guys can have a change of heart too. I think the woman in this story should have broke it off if she wanted a child. Unless her man said he has changed his mind , then she should have assumed he didn't. If I found out I was pregnant And I wanted the child, what a stretch I Never want kids ! Anyway, And I was with a guy I Knew didn't want kids, I would have left him . I would have disappeared.
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I would put the baby up for adoption if both parents agree to it. Easier said then done.. I wouldn't trust the father to pay child support or would I want him in the child's life. I think this woman is making a big mistake keeping the child and expecting the father to be the father she wants! Otherwise this could turn into a real disaster! The child could be put in the middle over child support or visitation, maybe both! The child would be better off being raised by people who can't have children and give it the life it deserves!
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• United States
25 Aug 10
Or have the mom be single parent for a time. I can see her finding a man who will love her And the child. But to try to force a man be a father will not work.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
27 Aug 10
I think there is some incorrect notion that when an un-willing parent see their baby for the first time, they will change their mind. Maybe the movies helped propagate this misconception. But I agree that she should have consulted with the father first before she went back on their agreement. It is unfair to the child if one parent is an un-willing participant in their life.
• Canada
25 Aug 10
I'm trying to understand why a man who absolutely does not want any children wouldn't have protected his interests by having a vasectomy. That aside, I agree, she can't expect him to want the child simply because she decided she does. It's sad that he will have to pay support for a child they agreed not to have, but still, he should have taken steps to protect himself, especially after impregnating her the first time.
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• Philippines
24 Aug 10
how sad..i think the lady should have undergone counselling in order for her to be more clarified of taking care of the child under her custody.
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• United States
24 Aug 10
I'm pro choice. The key word is choice I totally support her wanting the baby. But I also support him not wanting the baby. So I agree with you. The mom to be should have first told him she is keeping the baby and then asked if he wants to be part of the baby's life. If the answer is no, then set up a way he can help financially but then go on and plan to be a single parent.It is better to have one loving parent than have one loving one and one who is resentful.