Florida Senate Primary Results...Crist, Rubio and Meek

@spalladino (17891)
United States
August 24, 2010 7:36pm CST
It's going to be an interesting couple of months ahead for Florida. With Charlie Crist running as an Independent, he's already guaranteed to pull some of the Republican votes away from Republican Marco Rubio. Democrat Kendrick Meek is not very well known in the state so he's going to have to be able to rally support if he's going to hold on to his party's backing. According to what I have heard, the Democratic Party would rather throw their support behind Crist as an Independent than lose the Senate seat to Rubio. Charlie Crist has already shown that he's able to pull Democrats in. Do you believe that three way races are good for either of the two major parties?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
25 Aug 10
I don't see why we have to have parties anyway. I've never understood it and it's bad for the country because people will vote for a straight party ticket without knowing anything about the candidates that represent it--it's a lazy way to vote. I have relatives that will vote for only democrats (very few republicans in my family!) no matter what they are like. They just figure repubs are evil so they vote straight democrat no matter how the candidates stand on the issues. One of my ex in-laws will vote for anyone in favor of abortion no matter what they say on other issues. So three way races might cause people to actually put some thought into their votes. That would be a VERY good thing!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Aug 10
Simply put, political parties is what I call "Voting for Dummies". If someone's too stupid or lazy to learn about a candidate, just check which letter is next to their name. To this day I hear people say Obama will be great because Clinton ended the deficit in his final year and ANY republican would be horrible because Bush grew the deficit. Those morons actively believe that every democrat is the same as Clinton and every republican is the same as Bush.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
25 Aug 10
Good point, dragon. I have relatives like that, too.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Aug 10
Well it looks like Meek has no chance whatsoever so it's kind of a win/win situation. I'd prefer that Rubio win as I agree with him on more issues than Crist, but I won't be heartbroken if Crist wins the election. I'm a bit surprised that Meek won the nomination so handily with a billionaire running against him. If Greene had won the nomination for the democrats, the polls showed that Crist would have had a big lead on Rubio since democrats like him more than Greene. As it is this will be a close race. Personally I think the republicans were extremely foolish to demonize Crist for running as an independent. I didn't want him to, but I fully support his choice as I like people having more options, particularly ones that aren't beholden to a party. The attacks on him now bring the risk of him caucusing with the democrats should he win and that would hurt the GOP, and the country in my opinion, badly. "Do you believe that three way races are good for either of the two major parties?" No I don't, but I don't care either. It's what's good for the people, not the parties, that matters to me. I like a good three way race. I wouldn't mind a run off vote though to get a majority winner out of the top two.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
25 Aug 10
Meek's win surprised me, too, but I didn't like Greene much either. I agree with you about demonizing Crist...that actually helped him bring in support from Republicans who aren't as far to the right as Rubio and, yes, he's being courted by the Democratic Party to causus with them should he win. So far he is (wisely) saying nothing either way.
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• United States
25 Aug 10
Well, I'm way too far north from Florida to go to those polls & cast a vote. Even then, I have never heard of any of them, & therefore, it'd be an uneducated vote if I was allowed & able to. It's tough to say whether a three way race is good or bad. It actually depends on the situation, what each candidate stands for, & many other factors. Theoretically, it may be good in that the third candidate may bring out other issues that the other two never thought of. We experienced something like this on a nationwide scale during the George H. "Daddy" Bush / Bill Clinton election back in 1992. Where I am, there were many Ross Perot supporters, but there seemed to have been more Clinton supporters than those who supported "Daddy" Bush. People from both sides of the two camps claimed that "A vote for Perot is a vote for (the opposing candidate)." Clinton supporters were saying that a vote for Perot was an indirect vote for Bush, & vice versa. I vaguely remember that he brought out another issue that neither Daddy Bush or Clinton thought of, but I forgot what it was. It seems that the reality of it is that we almost never had a candidate successfully elected that was not a member of one of the two dominating parties. At least, when it comes to the Presidency, this seems true. Unless that independent candidate can get the votes to win, it can also be detrimental in that the if he does not get the votes to win, the lessor desirable candidate might just end up winning.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Aug 10
To try to answer your question first, I'm not sure if three way races are good for either of the parties but I think they're good for the voters. I think they have the potential of forcing the major party candidates to say what they REALLY think instead of just toting the party talking points over and over again since the third candidate usually isn't beholden to any party. I think we all know in primary campaigns Republicans usually move right and Democrats move left then in the general they both move at least somewhat to the center. During the general campaign it's not all that effective for one to call the other out on this shift since they both did it but when you have a third candidate, he or she can get away with it much better and "hit" both parties' candidate. I'm not positive since I don't live there so I'm not familiar with all of the issues facing Florida, but I have a feeling if I did I'd be voting for Crist. Annie
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
25 Aug 10
Marco Rubio has a couple of problems now that I've had some time to think about it. He campaigned on the "Washington is Broken" platform, that he's new blood and that he cares about Florida. Well, Crist is also new blood and has a track record in Florida. He's very popular as Governor. Compounding Rubio's problems is the Tea Party. Not our local tea party groups but I have to wonder whether he'll cringe if Palin wants to show up on the Tea Party Express to campaign for him when the GOP takeover of the tea party movement hasn't played very well down here. Charlie Crist is in a position to be a tea party sweetheart, too, without the fakeness of the Tea Party Express and Palin. Another problem is that Rubio doesn't have much that he can go after Meek about...at least not that I'm aware of at this point because Meek is also "new blood". He's not going to want to beat up on Meek too much because, if he slips too far in the polls, the Democrats have already indicated that they will throw their support behind Crist. I'm leaning more towards Crist but I'll keep my mind open for the next couple of months...which should be pretty interesting.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
26 Aug 10
I don't think the Tea Party would be willing to forgive Crist for supporting Obama's stimulus. He really did improve the education system in Florida though and for people who like tax cuts he did cut property taxes as well. Granted, those cuts were far more brutal to government services than they were helpful to the people in my opinion.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
29 Aug 10
You see, shoe, it's people like you who will cost the Republican party votes in this and other elections. I've been called a rino more than once because I am a moderate Republican. I'm not one of the conservatives who believe the party belongs to them alone...that only their views count...and, because I have opinions of my own, the conservatives within my own party attack. Whatever you believe about the Democrats...all those words you toss around so handily...fit many of the conservatives in the Republican party as well. Crist has his base, he will also pull in some democrats...a lot if Meek doesn't do well...in addition to moderate Republicans who don't agree with the far right agenda.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
25 Aug 10
Typically, three way races have been detrimental to the Republicans. I actually think it is a good thing to have a three way race. At the very least it makes things interesting. But in this particular race, I think Meek won't be in the race towards the end. It will be between Rubio and Crist. Who wins will be based on who is turning out to vote. If the heavily Cuban population in Miami comes out, Rubio could squeak by. If the voting stats don't shift one way or another, then it will be close but Crist might get the nod. I don't think Meek has much of a chance because Crist is still pulling in some Democrats voters.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
25 Aug 10
One problem Meek has is that he doesn't have a lot of money and Florida is a very large state. He's relatively unknown so he's going to have to work harder than Rubio will just to stay in the race. The Democrats have been courting Crist should he win the seat so he has potential support from moderates in both parties. Earlier on CNN he branded Meek as far left and Rubio as far right so he's going to work the middle hard.
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• Philippines
25 Aug 10
I think that Crist has sold his soul as a career politician and should be rejected by all voters, republican, independent, democratic and registered elsewhere. Eric
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
25 Aug 10
I've heard that...from Rubio supporters. Christ believes that he can do a good job of representing the state and saw the Republican party throwing support Rubio's way after Rubio started kissing up to the tea party. IMO, there are issues other than tea party issues important to the state. Crist still has a lot of support and big financial backers so why continue to be loyal to a party that isn't backing him? That's not selling your soul...that's common sense.
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