Becks backhanded apology
By laglen
@laglen (19759)
United States
August 30, 2010 10:23am CST
I dont know why my discussions are all about Beck today, I dont even watch his show.
However, I saw this and thought I should start a discussion about it.
Glenn Beck apologized nicely for saying President Obama was racist. Then he went on to say -
"I didn't understand, really, his theology, I think that it is much more of a theological question that he is a guy who understands the world through liberation theology, which is oppressor and victim."
you can read more here -
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/29/beck-amends-obama-racist-comment-questions-belief-collective-salvation/?test=latestnews
I actually agree with a lot of what he said but it seemed backhanded to me.
What do you think? Do you agree?
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10 responses
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
30 Aug 10
I had to laugh when my wife told me about this. This was more of a clarification of what he thought, which is WRONG, but what do you expect from Beck. I never knew that Beck was so religious, especially when I listened to him a long time ago. He used some pretty interesting language, and I NEVER would have thought he was a religious man. Very interesting...
@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
30 Aug 10
Ironically, he speaks much about faith, but many of his followers probably wouldn't be too enthusiastic if he explicitly told them he was Mormon. (At least, if Romney's anything to go off of - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1562941,00.html)
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Hawaiigopher, he doesnt make a secret of it. I dont watch his shows but every now and then he will mention it. I knew it and I am not a big fan. I am willing to bet atleast 90% of the people that watch him regularly know he is Mormon. The other 10% need q-tips.
debater - I think he has gotten more spiritual as time has gone by.... and yes the "apology" was funny.
@HawaiiGopher (1009)
• Belgium
31 Aug 10
So, I'm guessing those that know aren't too enthusiastic about it then... ?
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Beck is so full of it, he is doing all of this for the attention. He wants to be remembered and he wants everyone to know who he is. This is the kind of guy some Americans look up to.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
31 Aug 10
I wonder how many television commentators are not looking for the attention? Heck, if they don't get the attention, they usually get fired - the networks want people to watch after all. What a strange idea... I don't remember Dan Rather ever cautioning his audience to forget his name once the show was off and never, ever to pay any attention to him or watch him ever again.
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@max1950 (2306)
• United States
30 Aug 10
i dont trust beck, i used to watch him but he gets more commercial every day to fill his pockets and me being in the a.a.program for the last 14 years and beck touting the fact he is on national t.v. he should read the 12 steps again. it makes me wonder why there are no commercial commercials on his show only things he has stock in to make him richer, he was ok when he started but since has gone way out of line. next i can see him next to some t.v. preacher selling snake oil and pacing up and down the stage like jeramiah wright in a robe. obama is looking for votes and beck is looking for a bigger audience. look i took history for 8 years in school and i dont need beck to remind me about what ive learned, that was then ,this is now. he's become a total bore.
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@max1950 (2306)
• United States
31 Aug 10
the fact is obama is obama and he doesn't really care what the majority of the american public wants and thats the way its gonna be until we get him out of office and the quicker the people that voted him in realize that the better off we'll be.
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@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
30 Aug 10
I wonder if Beck still follows the old school doctrine of the Mormon church that believes God is punishing people of dark skin because they remained neutral during the war in heaven. Why is it that people constantly want Obama to explain himself and his beliefs but they will never talk about what it is they believe. It seems its acceptable to just be white and say you are Christian and your beliefs are never questioned but if you are not than you are constantly questioned.
""That is a direct opposite of what the gospel is talking about," said Beck."It's Marxism disguised as religion."" Funny what gospel is he talking about because I have read the bible myself and the disciples had socialist beliefs, just look at the book of acts. Maybe the Mormon bible is different.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
31 Aug 10
I don't think you can hold Beck responsible for something the church practiced long before he ever joined it.
The quote from Beck is out of context and you must know that. He made that remark in reference to liberation theology and the concept of "collective salvation" and he rightly stated that the gospels teach individual salvation and that the concept of collective salvation is quite like marxism.
There's nothing socialist BTW in encouraging people to love one another, give to the poor, care for widows or offer your cloak to someone who has already taken your cloak. Socialism would give all the coats and cloaks to a central government to be distributed as they see fit, thereby preventing you from performing such displays of charity.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
31 Aug 10
I think that if we are supposed to forgive Harry Reid for actual racist comments based on the fact that he's sorry it sounded that way, we can forgive someone for saying someone else is a racist. Anyway, Beck's comment was based on what he knew of the talking points at Rev Wright's church and Obama's own books. I agree with Glenn that the whole point is larger than just racism, it's about the liberation theology, it's about a larger philosophy and not simply racism.
That said, it's good that he backed away from the original comment because although the news media and every liberal can label as racist anyone who disagrees with the Obama agenda, the opposite is simply not true.
Beck is not well-liked by many and it's very unpopular and uncool to admit to watching him even occasionally, but I don't worry about image problems so I will admit to watching him here and there. Mostly it depends on where I am when he's on. His shows for months now have been informational and history packed. And although many claim he is a buffoon and demean his intellectual capability, taking these disparate facts and making the connections, showing us the links from one person or fact to another is actually a sign of his intelligence. The guy has a buffoon type of presentation, but that's okay too. Some of us are a bit tired of the uber-elite, suave and smooth, snarky types who think they own the only active brain cells in the world.
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@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
30 Aug 10
I think Beck has equivocated because Fox and its anchors are limited in their ability to speak out due to 14% Saudi ownership of their station and other reasons.
I will not watch Fox for that reason. Beck should not have back-pedalled.
Obama IS a racist and then some.
The race gambit used by handlers Soros, Muslims, etc. was the "perfect storm" to bring America to its knees.
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Laglen, I don't understand; what did he then say?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
4 Sep 10
I didn't really hear an apology there at all, to be honest. He said he wanted to AMEND not DETRACT his statement that President Obama is a racist and he did admit that he has a "big fat mouth", but he never said he was sorry for accusing our President of being a racist and having a deep-seated hatred for white people. I DO agree with one thing he said - that would be the part about having a "big, fat mouth".
I didn't watch the coverage either but I'm sincerely glad to hear it really wasn't very political. I'm always happy for anything that honors our troops and certainly for anything that helps to raise money for them and their families. However, my opinion about Beck hasn't improved nor have I gained any respect for him. He worse than a TV evangelist such as Pat Robertson because I don't believe he has ANY religious beliefs at all, it's all show and all for money.
Annie
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 Sep 10
I don't know that it was backhanded. I think he genuinely mis-interpreted Obama's adherence to liberation theology as racism, before he he understood what liberation theology was. Now that he has learned a bit about it, he was correcting himself.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
30 Aug 10
Beck seems a few sammiches short of a picanica basket. I'm honestly surprised that "racist" is the one thing he's called Obama.
With the way he starts foaming at the mouth, I expect him to drop the N bomb one of these days.
That aside, when Beck's not on an all-out loon mission, I appreciate finding out some of the stuff about the Chicago electric corp the progressive set up, and Sorros, and how they all tie in. No other media source on cable bothers to look behind the scenes.
Beck might draw his own conclusions on it and give them as "truth," but the information is the information and I think people do need to know about.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
30 Aug 10
Hiya laglen,
Well I don´t know this Man at all but at least he made an apology about President Obama.
I don´t know if he meant it or not really it´s not for me to judge him. I suppose he was a bit hasty in his statement about Obama and realized that he had shot himself in the foot (figure of Speech).
Maybe he will think twice about what he says in the future although it seems that his "opinion" came out when it should not have done and in the wrong place.
That happens a lot here too but you hardly ever find them making an apology for it they just keep firing verbally at each other all the time they are on their debates on the Television.
I think this Man was saying "this is what I really think, but then again it is not what I think publicly."
He just had a slip of the tongue. Do they get reprimanded in America for those kind of remarks or is it like here they get away with most things?
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
31 Aug 10
Hiya laglen,
Yes to mix that kind (theology) of thing with Politics and personal opinions of someone else on the Television not a good mix at all.
He put his number eight size boot right in it by the look of it.