fancy a bubble?
By jb78000
@jb78000 (15139)
August 31, 2010 9:43am CST
seems lots of people in the states want to be completely isolated from the outside world. and there may be certain in the outside world who'd be delighted at this too. anyway it has to be complete - you can't pick and choose. so no immigration, legal or illegal and no emigration. no foreign travel (shouldn't think that'd be a problem but remember this means no day trips to canada or mexico too). no exports. no imports, of anything. no starting wars anywhere (you can defend your borders, no more, and that won't be necessary cos you are getting a bubble). and no communication whether by phone, internet, radio or pigeon post outside the states. now is this a dream come true? and if so why? and if you are not from the states would you like your own country to be put in a bubble?
oh and does anybody remember the kricket inhabitants from the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy?
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11 responses
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Sep 10
No thanks, no bubble for me. I'm afraid we already have some people living here who might as well be living in a bubble and I'm not in the least bit envious of them. Even if they're rich, famous and powerful, I'm not envious because to live in a bubble is to become stagnant and to totally stop growing, changing and LEARNING.
I know realism isn't what you're after here, jb, but look at it this way - if the rest of the world had been in their own respective bubbles a few centuries ago there would be no U.S. They'd have simply been happy with the way things were in their own countries and would have been so caught up in the "We're Number 1!" attitude they'd have had no hopes or dreams of making better lives for themselves and their families.
No bubble for me, thank you very much; it would be the same as wrapping myself in a zip-lock plastic bag.!
Annie
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Bubble's don't really help anyone. The last time the US wrapped itself in a bubble Hitler conquered nearly the entire continent of Europe. Granted, we were just one of several countries who wanted to be in a bubble. The UK was one of those too.
It doesn't work because aggressor countries will always exploit the non-involvement of other nations as Hitler and Stalin did back then.
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@jb78000 (15139)
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31 Aug 10
well assuming the states would not be at all affected by ANYTHING that was happening in the outside world (yes, i know this is currently impossible but bear with me) and in fact wouldn't know about it how do you feel. do the advantages of a bubble outweigh the isolation or not?
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 Sep 10
I don't really want a total bubble. but I would very much like to take on a more non-interventionist policy. But you raise a point to be addressed. There are a good many people in this country who would like to see a "bubble". This is because every time we do something in the world, the world criticizes us very loudly for "sticking our noses in others' affairs". But when a disaster or something happens, if we're not there almost BEFORE it happens, we are "stingy" or selfish", if we don't take on a cause the world wants us to, such as Darfur...the world screams about that too. The world can't have it both ways.
Anyway. I would very much like to see us in a much more non-intervention position, a smaller military foot print on the planet (not a smaller military though), and we need to start keeping a lot more money here at home. We are experiencing some pretty heavy economic troubles, troubles that threaten our very freedoms in fact. I realize there are those in the world who need the help, but we need to start taking care of our own for a while.
@jb78000 (15139)
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2 Sep 10
well there is a bit of a difference between helping out after a disaster and starting wars for your own benefit xfahctor. in a number of cases the us is NOT the good guys and you can't really expect much appreciation for that. as for helping out with disasters, well even second world countries do this so yes, the us would look stingy if it decided not to bother.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
1 Sep 10
jb why do you always pick o n the United States, this gets old
after awhile, go pic on Scotland or Ireland , my own forbears came
from there too, so what? guess being sick has got me in a bad mood
but whats with this bash America thing here in my lot? do not other
countries also have people who isolate themselves? Is Scotland all
that great a country with no faults that it can throws stones at my native country? The only bubble I use and damnation I am proud to
be an American so stuff it blue bunny. The only bubble I use is the one my diabetes nurse educator told me about, the stress propf bubble I wear around me, unseen of course to bounce off stresses like blue bunnies picking on my US. and I love that Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
If lots of people want to be isolated wonder why? cause so many in My lot like to throw word bricks at us? well I just lobbed on in the direction of youJB so duck. of course its made out of wet noodles as I hate to hurt anyone. maybe tomorrow I can l augh at this discussion.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Sep 10
hi jb I am in a much better mood oh stir fry sounds great but we did have mac and beef for dinner tonight and that was really pretty good.oh Best country in the world, cannot wait to find out lol lol. I just hope to night is not another of my roommates wandering nights. she is either starting to become senile or starting Alzheimer disease as she goes down to ask for pain pills about every two hours all night long and she forgets that they had already given them to her, but the worst is she opens the hall door and floods our room with light waking me up every time she leaves. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I love her but being woke up all night is getting old now.+
@jb78000 (15139)
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1 Sep 10
oh i am not bashing the united states - this is just a question. i refer to the states a lot because nearly everybody in this section is from there. (and admittedly annoying them is fun) and i have never said scotland is that great either. i don't do the My Country is the Best in the World thing, because it is never true. for anybody. there might be a couple of scandinavian countries that come close but even those have their faults too. anyway thanks for the wet noodles, i shall make a stir fry.
oh and i might have a new country victim. i have referred to this particular Best Country in the World before but now they have a new, and very noisy representative running around in here.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
31 Aug 10
No, I don't want a bubble, I want sensible people running the government. But if somebody calculated the probability of either one happening, I'd say the bubble is more likely.
@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
1 Sep 10
I've got too many pins to be stuck in a bubble. Sooner or later, I'd cause a bumble & burst the bubble.
Seriously, this isolationism was tried in the past, but it didn't work. In the 19th century, the United States got dragged into a war against Great Britain in what we call the War of 1812. I don't know what the proper name for that war is on that side of the Atlantic. Then in the 20th century, the United States tried again during two world wars. They ended up getting involved & declaring war.
Only thing about Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy I know is only the name. Try any good carrot recipes lately?
@jb78000 (15139)
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1 Sep 10
you probably wouldn't like a bubble even if it was pin proof and you knew nothing about what was happening outside. anyway onto the important stuff - i am actually getting a bit tired of carrots. plus any more carrots and i'll turn orange. i really do not want to be an orange bunny
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
3 Sep 10
No, I would never like to live in a bubble…the first casualty for me in such a case would be mylot and if that happened, it would be a minor catastrophe to me personally.
Seriously speaking however, I think it’s no longer possible for any country to insulate itself completely from outside influences. Events over the last century have shaped our destinies in such a way that no corner of this world is isolated…what happens to me will somehow affect your today or tomorrow…directly or indirectly. So even if you wanted to, you cannot really have your bubble
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
31 Aug 10
China tried to do that for centuries remember? What happened when she opened her doors...Opium. That is such and unrealistic idea in this day and age. While we were hiding in our bubble, the rest of the world would be changing into who knows what. Suspicions as to what we were doing would be growing and before you knew it we would be blown up by all the nuclear that had proliferated while we had our heads in the sand.
If we used our heads and had some intelligence in office instead of greed, we could do our country some good. We spend billions on graft instead of ways to improve our country. We need to stop propping up all these useless countries and let them fail...we need to stop propping up all these useless companies and let them fail...we need to stop buying products from companies that move their companies offshore so that they do not have to pay taxes or workers comp., or workers benefits. That is our fault.
Our Failure is Our Fault. Stand up and Take it. Stand up and Fix it. Don't Hide like a Wimp.
Shalom~Adoniah
@jb78000 (15139)
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31 Aug 10
no you'd be in a bubble - rest of the world couldn't affect you and probably wouldn't care what you are up to anyway. there is no such thing as a realistic bubble now so we really need to use sci fi for this. so the risk of some paranoid country blowing you up is removed - your view the same?
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Sep 10
Nope, I'm too pushy to be allowed inside of a bubble...even a very large one. I'm not too fond of sticking my head in the sand, much to the consternation of those who either claim that I do or wish that I would.
I do like the colored bubbles the grandkids play with though.
@ShurikenKitty (5)
• Philippines
1 Sep 10
There's this book, Aldous Huxley's A Brave New World, it's utopian science fiction, but essentially it depicts a world so perfect, why the heck would want out of it.
But as the story progresses, the reader finds out that perfection is just the sheen, the candy coating, the silver screen behind a machinery that controls, contorts and changes what's natural.
Living in a bubble would not make a perfect world. Not to mention the possibility of a pandemic eating up the populace. But no thanks. No bubble for me. A world in utero is not a solution to what we are having now. In fact I think that that country will just turn to itself, fight each other, enter into a cold war with the other states.
So no thanks, it's the mindset or the ideology that needs to be understood, good education is still the key to better relations between countries, education not just for the leaders but for their constituents.