WTF!? Obama goes crying to the UN over the Arizona immigration law!
By Taskr36
@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
August 31, 2010 2:49pm CST
So apparently Obama now thinks it's the UN's job to determine how immigration policies are formed and enforced in this country. This is really the most pathetic, and unAmerican (yeah I said it) thing he's done since assuming office. It's not enough that he doesn't give a crap about immigration laws. It's not enough that he's suing a state for enforcing the laws he ignores while giving a pat on the back to sanctuary cities and states that blatantly violate immigration laws.
Nope, now it's time to bow down before an unelected, foreign power that does not answer to, or respect the US Constitution or the American people. So now the UN Human Rights Council will judge the US state of Arizona and their supposed violations of human rights.
That's just what we need right? Countries like China, Cuba, Libya, Russia, and Saudi Arabia talking down to US about human rights and immigration policy.
I honestly don't think I've ever been more disgusted with any president than I am right now. How do you feel about Obama handing over the sovereignty of our nation to countries like Libya and Saudi Arabia that openly support terrorism and torture rape victims as criminals?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100051882/barack-obama-bows-before-the-un-over-arizona-immigration-law/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100828/ap_on_re_us/us_brewer_un_report
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/30/state-department-stands-decision-include-arizona-human-rights-report/
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13 responses
@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
31 Aug 10
America needs a leader that puts America first. We haven't had one of those in awhile.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
1 Sep 10
That would really be a nice change from what we have now.
@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
1 Sep 10
I found this discussion the other one I responded to, because of that train wreck of a response left by someone who's country is west of China. I'll leave it to your imagination as to who I'm talking about.
Something I did not mention in the other discussion is that maybe I am being too optimistic when I think this. This might just backfire on Obama. Reason I think that is because if I was to be an illegal immigrant in any other country other than the United States, swift action would be taken.
In China, one of the five permanent members with veto power, under the present & past regimes, if I was to enter the country without the proper paperwork & such, I would probably be put before a firing squad, if not shot on sight. I would probably face the same or similar results in Russia, another permanent member of the UN with veto power. Even other nations involved with the human rights commission, the results can be relatively brutal.
Something I did mention is that if Arizona's SB1070 is a human rights violation, then probably every nation, especially those in on that human rights commission, as well as the permanent members of the UN with veto power, are also guilty.
Am I being too hopefully optimistic? Do I make sense? Is it normal to mention sharmila & Taliban in the same line/sentence? Anyone else get the feeling that this will backfire or be like a boomerang & whack 'em over the head?
@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
1 Sep 10
I believe I know about some of those, & it was something that Obama made in his campaign promise to correct. The problem is, he has done nothing about it.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Okay, I give up with Obama and I throw in the towel. Yeah, he doesn't give damn about our immigration laws or the economy. I was happy about the Health Care Bill being passed, even though I know most you hated him for that, but I think that he needs to tackle illegal immigration and he needs to find a away to fix this terrible economic situation that we are in. Illegal immigration in the southern part of the U.S. is bad, I mean it's the worst it has been in years, and it's not getting any better. I am not a racist, I respect all races and welcome any race and nationality that is presently here, but it's getting way out of hand, and Obama needs to deal with it.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
31 Aug 10
Oh, and if Obama wants an idea here is one. More border patrol, fix the borders that we have, and tell the President of Mexico to get his act together and to fix his country up.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
2 Sep 10
I don't like this rabbit hole, and I don't like this Wonderland.
I consider myself a liberal in many of my beliefs, but there are some beliefs that I have the might be considered "right". One thing that I can say though is this country needs help first and foremost. We need to take care of our own.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 Sep 10
Yeh, that voter remorse thing is a had bite to swallow isn't it....trust me, I know exactly what you mean. With in a few years of the first Bush term I was experiencing it BIG TIME. But it was also at that point that I was starting to see right through that false veil of left/right. In truth and in the classic definition, I am a "lefty", though many of my views are deemed in modern terms as "right wing". THis is why I stopped using those terms and looking beyond them, because they are incomplete and innacurate and a very poor standard to base our votes on. Welcome to the rabbit hole , miss Alice, it is indeed very deep, be ready for a long climb down...but it is quite refreshing down here once you get over the disillusionment.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
31 Aug 10
The point is that our pathetic joke of a president is abdicating our sovereignty to a foreign body with no respect to our laws or constitution. This UN Human Rights council could say that the law is 100% appropriate and it still wouldn't change the foul act committed by our president.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
1 Sep 10
The United Nations will.... ?
The United Nations can.... ?
1: Do nothing
2: Suck it
In a logical world, the UN would come down heavily in favor of Arizona, since we all know the UN is just an extension of Euroschmucks that hands out fake positions of power to placate bad guys from around the world, and that almost every other friggin' country on the planet has stricter--and ENFORCED--immigration laws.
But the idea is to humiliate Arizona.
Obama and the UN are a match made in heaven. I can't figure out which is more utterly useless.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
1 Sep 10
Correction, the idea is to humiliate and subjugate the US. Arizona is just the way they're doing it. It's kind of like that rule that in prison, you have to attack the toughest guy right away to get in good with the other scumbags. Arizona's the tough guy and Obama's trying to get a good rep with the scumbags at the UN.
Before anyone accuses me of random UN bashing, let me remind you that the Human Rights committee is made of the biggest scumbags possible from the worst nations in the world for human rights.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
1 Sep 10
I hope I'm accused of UN bashing. They're worthless.
Throwing a bone to your neighbor's dog when he's starving doesn't make you a good dog person if you're constantly neglecting and sanctioning and p1ssing on everyone else's dog. They're scared to shut the chiuauas up, bigoted against the pit bull, and habitually kick the poodles around because they can.
So, a group of old haughty elitists in "power" telling the rest of us how to live and what's moral and what constitutes a violation of human rights? Sounds like a huge panel of JB's.
I don't make that deal.
Nobody asked me. And I'm not obligated to listen to those schmucks.
@lindiebiz (1006)
• Canada
1 Sep 10
I must say shame on you if you do not think that the Arizona immigration law is wrong on so many levels mainly because it encourages racial profiling. I am a legal immigrant to Canada for more than a year now and they do not have this problems you know why because thier system does not encourage it. There are several thaings you want to do that youw will have to provide your immigration status, to attend new immigrant programs, even recently i hade to register for some courses and my children into school, i had to show that we were all legal immigrants. The US needs to work on thier systems to cover up loopholes how does and illegal immigrant get admitted into schools?
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
1 Sep 10
Please READ THE LAW before telling me what it "encourages". It specifically BANS racial profiling and has clearly stated penalties for any police found guilty of such.
"The US needs to work on their systems to cover up loopholes how does and illegal immigrant get admitted into schools?"
You're right, they do need to work on their systems and cover up loopholes. That is one thing that the Arizona law does by setting up penalties for people who employ illegal aliens.
Illegal get admitted into schools primarily because schools are run at the local level. Many go to states and cities known as "Sanctuary States/Cities". In those places the governments and police forces oppose and block immigration enforcement making it a safe haven for illegal aliens to do whatever they want, including rape and murder, without fear of deportation.
Another common tactic for illegals is identity theft. There's a black market for stolen identities and the primary consumers are illegal aliens who purchase Social Security numbers and identities that allow them to appear as legal citizens and hold jobs, get credit cards, and go to school.
I'm going to give you the opportunity to be smarter and better educated than our president and Attorney General. They've chosen to be completely ignorant of the law they're fighting, but I think you're better than that so here, have a read. I read it on a lunch break the week it came out. It's the kind of thing a bum like Holder could have read on his flight to Arizona if he wasn't so willfully ignorant.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf
Here's a version that shows the changes made.
http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/summary/h.sb1070_asamendedbyhb2162.doc.htm
Regardless of how you feel, such a law is by no means a human rights violation. The only question is whether or not it conforms to the US constitution and that is a decision for the US Judicial system to make, not a bunch of goons who support punishing rape victims with beatings.
@piggiehandcuffs (365)
• United States
5 Sep 10
People already let illegal aliens roam around doing whatever they want or else they'll cause too much of an uproar in the latino community.
Have you ever noticed that most all the illegal aliens who are not Latino don't stand on the street corners braging about it like latinos do? Non latinos know that they'll be deported in a heartbeat. Why is Obama siding with these latinos? They do come here for a better living, but I don't see how people allow them to break all the rules.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
1 Sep 10
The UN can not do a thing except talk about the problem and issue resolutions that make them feel good but don't offend the violators. How many resolution have they passed telling Iran not to build a Nuclear Reactor. Russia is one of the important member and they violate the UN resolutions. When President Bush finally invaded Iraq he did so with a long list of UN resolutions authorizing the use of military force that the UN never enforced.
The UN is a perfect example of a ruling class. The people who work there do so with immunity from all laws. They travel the world at someone else's expense. They meet for 6 weeks (in March and April) in Geneva, Switzerland to form working groups to discuss such topics as:
Arbitrary Detention
Enforced or Involuntary Disappearances
The use of mercenaries as a means of impeding the exercise of the right of peoples to self-determination
The country they spend the most time on is discussing Israel and their Human Right Violations while electing the Sudan to Chair the committee at the time they were in the process of "ethnic cleansing" in Darfur. I guess that asking someone to prove they are in this country legally is a terrible human rights violation. Maybe we should let the UN HRC go to AZ and just "cleanse the country side".
The UN has become the ultimate "Good Old Boys And Girls Club".
Check out Wikipedia to see what they have on the UN HRC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Commission_on_Human_Rights
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
31 Aug 10
I opened a discussion yesterday on this subject and though you may be interested to read the responses I received.
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2388414.aspx?p=1
August 28, 2010
Barack Obama just invited the United Nations to join his ongoing fight
against Arizona and dozens of other states attempting to enforce the
immigration laws that he refuses to enforce.
Unfortunately, you read that right. On August 20, the United States, for
the first time ever, submitted a 29-page "Universal Periodic Review" (UPR)
to the UN Human Rights Council, which outlines a laundry list of human
rights abuses allegedly committed by the United States.
This is what I found when digging into the actual Universal Period Review from the USA to UN
August 23, 2010
* Universal Periodic Review on Human Rights Submitted to UN by U.S.
"The Universal Periodic Review (UPR) is a new and unique human rights mechanism of the United Nations (UN) Human Rights Council aiming at improving the human rights situation on the ground of each of the 192 UN Member States. Under this mechanism, the human rights situation of all UN Member States is reviewed every 4 years (48 States are reviewed each year during 3 UPR sessions dedicated to 16 States each). The result of each review is reflected in an “outcome report” listing the recommendations made to the State under review (SuR) including those that it accepted."
# Report of the United States of America Submitted to the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights In Conjunction with the Universal Periodic Review, August 20, 2010- "This document gives a partial snapshot of the current human rights situation in the United States, including some of the areas where problems persist in our society. In addressing those areas, we use this report to explore opportunities to make further progress and also to share some of our recent progress. For us, the primary value of this report is not as a diagnosis, but rather as a roadmap for our ongoing work within our democratic system to achieve lasting change. We submit this report with confidence that the legacy of our past efforts to embrace and actualize universal rights foreshadows our continued success."
http://www.bespacific.com/mt/archives/025030.html
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
1 Sep 10
I know you don't like the thought that both parties have sold us out to globalist but the fact is ever since Bush Sr was in office every president has slowly moved us towards being under the domination of UN troops. Bases, training areas and storage areas are being provided to the UN ever since that time. I think eventually it will come down to the UN trying to find some trumped up reason to use its foreign troops to try and police US citizens. Ever since 9/11 foreign troops have been training on US soil in an alarming rate. If there ever was civil unrest at a large scale I have no doubt these troops would be sent here. World domination of countries with no rights wont be a problem it will be countries with rights that have the problem.
@yesah65 (157)
• United States
1 Sep 10
It is obvious now, that Mr. Obama will never get another term to do whatever it is he is doing, and I totally AGREE the UN needs to keep their dang(trying NOT to be vulgar) noses(dirty as they are) OUT of our business. The UN has no legal right to be here in the US, but the way he is going, He MAY GIVE it to them before he is out of office.
Many of Obama's recent actions has shown all too well, where he belongs...Maybe in Saudi Arabia, or elsewhere, but he is giving us away in the name of....?
I am sorry to say all this because I really(like many Americans) had great hopes for him, but we seemed to have let the Wolf in with the Sheep...
By the way, I live in Arizona, and you are right...It is OUR Border and it is some of the UN's loveable underlings that are streaming across our OPEN, unguarded border, and it is NOT just illegal Mexicans coming across.
So I understand, some fellows that recently had all intentions of blowing up Ft. Dix, New Jersey ADMITTED coming in across the Mexican-US border, and they sure WERE NOT Mexican...What does that tell you Mr. Obama? Either help us solve the problem(A US problem-not UN), or get the heck out with the rest of them...
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
31 Aug 10
If you read the UN statement on Human Rights, it includes the discrimination and lack of equality under the law based on gender to be a human rights violation. So how is it that Saudi Arabia can sit on the Humans Rights Council when they sentenced a 75-year-old woman to flogging because she had two young men who weren't near relatives bring her bread? Women are not allowed to drive cars! Everyone knows of the human rights violations committed in China. To allow these nations to possible draft a resolution condemning the US for human rights violations is insanity of the sort only Obama could wallow in.
IF Obama ever considered a second term, he's obviously decided against it. This is not something the American public will approve of - rather, they will be further angered by it. With every step, this president distances himself further and further from the voters and their concerns.
President Bush resolutely refused to submit this report to the UN because of the negative light it puts America in and because of the human rights violators that it would be submitted to. In fact, the other members of the council were a big reason the US has never before applied to be part of it.
By submitting this report, Obama has recognized the UN as having authority over a state of the US. I believe that recognizing the sovereignty of another international body over any part of the US is an act of high treason.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
1 Sep 10
This is very disturbing and I agree wholeheartedly with both Jan and Sen. Antenorri, this is an insult not only to the American people but to our system of government. Another member, who is an expat, gave examples of some very real human rights issues that America faces, and I agree that this country is not perfect, but if anyone is guilty of human rights violations, it's not the state of Arizona but the illegal aliens who are here and keep coming.