Why so much hate against Obama?
By fannitia
@fannitia (2167)
Bulgaria
September 5, 2010 4:30pm CST
I stumbled on several discussions recently with too severe critics against the president Obama end even insulting words. I'd like to know why is this attitude? I live far away from the USA and I read only the common news. But what do you think about the person who went into the White house with an amazing rating?
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11 responses
@DenverLC (1143)
• Philippines
6 Sep 10
Instead of putting and and pointing all the faults and blames upon President Obama, why not suggest what and how he should run the government? Instead of leaving him to solve everything and degrading him as a leader and a person. Anyway this is not new anymore, almost all presidents and other public figures experienced and still experiencing the same situation.
If we try to evaluate our own selves or research about these critics can we answer these questions in a firm and positive manner? " What about me? am I not part of the government? Am I contributing something in my own way/s to shape up my country and family better? If your answer is "Yes" then you all have the right to be so sensitive and so demanding. Otherwise, better do your part first before trying to teach what others' should do. An isolated news sometimes affect the totality of a person that's why I don't really buy the idea of rating someone. Does the survey really represent the truth? Giving any president the favor of doubt means trusting your own vote that you casted during elections.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
6 Sep 10
well, even in my country that there are a lot of complainers, there's no question to that. it's just there, we can't just tell the people to keep it down. same goes to US citizens, they have the right criticize.
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
6 Sep 10
Brilliant DenverLC. I am underemployed and yet even under President Bush I tried to contribute in some kind of way. "Ask not what your country can do for you..." is what President Kennedy said. The economy is bad right now. How many people are really trying to make things better instead of complaining and degrading?
@mattic (282)
• United States
6 Sep 10
When a President initiates and then signs legislation into law that is blatantly unconsitutional (health care reform bill, Wall Street bailout, auto company bailout) or that has the intent of destroying the US free market (cap and trade, card check), I have a duty to not only protest - but do everything in my power to see that he fails. BTW, I protested just as loudly against Bush's wars and increases in the reach of the federal government.
As far as doing something - I daily educate the electorate on principles of liberty and the free market via my BTR program, Liberty Talk. I also blog and post items that citizens can use to determine what candidates they can trust to hold their interests to heart. Believe me, if the founders were alive today more than complaining would be going on.
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@amybrezik (2118)
• United States
5 Sep 10
Honestly, I think just because he went into the White House with such a popular rating does not mean he was right for the job. I think America was so ready for a change and Obama was a promise of that. In my opinion, not a lot has changed and so far all we have is unfufilled promises, just like any other politician.
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@mattic (282)
• United States
6 Sep 10
I don't hate the man personally, but I detest - with every fiber of my being - the collectivist agenda he is driving. His goal is nothing short of the destruction of the last vestiges of a free market society that has been the world leader for decades. The Obama policies, such as the health care reform bill; cap and trade; and card check; along with the push for additional stimulus and bailout funding are nothing more than wealth redistribution schemes meant to restrain individual liberty and achievement.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
7 Sep 10
Great question, WHY so much HATE indeed! It's fine for anyone to criticize a President or any other political leader and to disagree with his policies but I think the deep-rooted personal hatred has really gotten out of hand with President Obama. I'm not saying it didn't exist at all with other Presidents; former Presidents Clinton and Bush had their share of detractors, some of them very unkind, to put it mildly.
However, I think anyone looking at this objectively has to admit the hatred directed towards President Obama is different and much worse. I don't like to "play the race card" because I don't believe most people who have what to them are legitimate issues with the President's views are racists. It goes beyond that or maybe it's "around it" - I'm not sure. I have a feeling that maybe if Barack Obama had a more "normal" sounding name his race would be less noticeable, or maybe if he hadn't spent part of his childhood in a foreign country. I guess he should have gone by his childhood nickname of "Barry" and added an apostrophe to his last name and run as "Barry O'Bama. I also think the hatred directed at him has a lot to do with the technology available today and the way anything can "go viral" within minutes. Combine that with a kind of variation on that old kids' game "Telephone" and you've got suspicion, doubt, fear and hatred spreading like the nastiest virus ever. "Suspicion" that our President is a Muslim and not a Christian - not that it should matter - "doubt" that he was born in Hawaii and "fear" that he's going to take all our rights away and turn us into a socialist or Communist or whatever other horrible thing they can think of nation. All of these are unfounded but that doesn't stop them. Somehow people can be convinced they've lost their rights just like they can be convinced their taxes have gone up even though the vast majority of us got a tax cut.
Rob has already pointed out how anyone with any knowledge of economics knows it takes more than 19 months to get out of the hole our economy is in but when it's on the internet, on right-wing talk radio and on TV, especially Fox News 24/7 that the President has some sort of "socialist agenda", it stands to reason some people are going to blame him for everything that has or hasn't happened. Most people don't really understand how a bill becomes a law or what procedures like the filibuster work. They think that everything that has been done was completely the President's doing and that everything that hasn't been done has been his fault.
I think it's really sad and not at all productive that so much hate and nastiness exists. Most of the Republican members of the House and Senate and many of the voters don't seem to want anything to get better, they just want to defeat the President.
Annie
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
6 Sep 10
It is not so much "hate" as intense political disagreement on his policies. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin. We have had Black Presidents before. He isn't the first one. Although, he is being touted as the first one. As usual the media has distorted history on this particular issue. A lot of people are extraordinarily frustrated with him. Nothing he has put on the table has worked as hyped. Unemployment is still high, the "Health Care Bill" has done the exact opposite of lowering health costs. Spending is out of control and there is a huge let down in reality versus the "imagined" change that President Obama brought.
Yes, there is some name-calling as is typical in politics. You will find it on both sides. Bush was criticized and called names as much if not more than President Obama. It is all a part of the "ugly" side of politics.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
6 Sep 10
Actually, our political "debates" are rather on the tame side. In fact, there has never been a fist fight in Congress because someone has disagreed with someone else. It is just that we as Americans tend to be a lot more vocal when it comes to voicing an opinion. One of the results of the First Amendment.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
6 Sep 10
Nope not counting Clinton. The other black Presidents were Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding, and Calvin Coolidge. In fact, Coolidge had a black mother and a white father, just like President Obama.
http://diversityinc.com/content/1757/article/1461/
Only Thomas Jefferson hid his roots. Abraham Lincoln was actually labeled "Abraham Africanus The First."
Your wrong to think that the Health care bill hasn't had an impact. Rates have been going up in anticipation and businesses are lowering the percentage they pay on premiums and are passing those costs down to their employees. That has been the first wave felt. More costs are coming. Which if you notice has absolutely nothing to do with anything but politics.
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
6 Sep 10
There was a Black leader of the Continental Congress. And there was a President that rumors said was Black. But Obama is our first Black President. And if you've had economics, you'd see that it takes time for some things to change. The Health care bill was just passed. Who in their right mind expects that to go into effect immediately. And it is hatred. Using the traditional racist remarks makes it racist. And there have been plenty of racist remarks about Obama. It boggles the mind that there are Whites who don't know what racism is. You might have legitimate beefs with Obama and what he's done. But when you close your eyes to the racist things said about him, then you are living in an imaginary world.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
6 Sep 10
As I read up top, the "racist" thing is certainly thrown out there as a reason.
Maybe it is.
Ironically, however, a lot the same things said and attitudes held about Bush were not thought to have any racial motivation like now when they're said and held about Obama.
So Obama's being mixed race, AKA in American lingo "black," automatically warrants more focus and puts every single word said under a different microscope.
I didn't personally think it was so acceptable to use racism to find racism. But whatever. It is what it is at this point.
I still contend that nobody pays as much attention to Obama's skin tone as his supporters.
As far as the "he's a Muslim" and "he's a commie" crowd goes, Bush was supposedly a terrorist mastermind and single handedly responsible for blowing up the levees in New Orleans to intentionally kill "black people."
It just comes with the territory. Out of 300,000,000 people, you can bet that a solid 10% are outright loons. And what makes better news on the world stage: a rally in support of Obama, holding signs of love, peace and change, or the one guy out of 300-million holding up the "what you talkin' 'bout, Willis" sign?
Seriously.
As far as here on myLot, I know of two or three people who habitually "hate" on Obama. In contrast to Palin, who doesn't even hold a political office, he's getting off rather easy.
Constant discussions about him with a negative tinge are undoubtedly because he's not nearly as popular a president in reality as what world mainstream news depicts he should be. So I can see where it might be a little surprising to see the actual folks using different adjectives for Obama than the suits on TV and the word snobs in dying publications.
And like Laglen said above me... it wasn't that "amazing." He was the darling of the mainstream, and still is in many respects, but the actual people of America, its many citizens, were always nearly split on him. And now it's trending down.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
6 Sep 10
"I still contend that nobody pays as much attention to Obama's skin tone as his supporters."
Yes and on top of that I think that many of those who supported him were racists as well. Why? Because I think many on the left are using him as a tool to push their agenda. Now they can call ALL OPPOSITION racist. We've already heard it from morons like Clyburn and Conyers. If you oppose the stimulus, you're a racist. If you oppose the health care bill, you're a racist. The funny thing is that those on the left are blatantly supporting racist voter intimidation by black panthers in Philadelphia.
If racism AGAINST Obama is such a big issue, where were the skinheads and KKK morons on election day? I didn't see THEM blocking the entrance to voting locations. Nope, it was racist Obama SUPPORTERS doing that. Not only that, it was all those people on Obama's side that blocked, and are still blocking, any investigation into those racist activities.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
6 Sep 10
"Did the KKK and Skinheads suddenly dissapear from America?"
As Taskr pointed out and as I'll ask a little more directly -- where the hell are they at?
These supposedly uberbigoted whites you're on about, far, far worse than any European white person in terms of bigotry, have to be not only sought out during Obama's presidency but actually spun into being racists.
I'm not so sure what's behoovin' your behoover on this one. "Obvious"?
When these American whites you're beating the drum about were treating blacks as second-class citizens and worse, and when morons throw around racial slurs, and when racial hate crimes were not only commited but buried by a bigoted system - this was obvious racism.
Now someone painting a nazi sign on Obama's head, or speaking out against healthcare, or saying he's not qualified to hold the office, is somehow obviously a racist.
Planet Spin isn't the Earth-like body I call home.
But you do have a habit of doing this. I'm not sure if you can't grasp context properly or if you like taking a word out of a point and starting a faux argument over it.
I never said that some people weren't racists. I know full well they exist. And they're certainly not only WHITE!
But as much as a neo-nazi may hate that a black man's in office, I still contend that Obama's skin tone still doesn't matter as much to this person as it does a glowing supporter showing said support because of his skin tone.
Or is that form okay to you?
If I went off on a rant about blacks the way you do whites, would you call me a racist?
I'm guessing HELL YES.
But explain to me the "forms" of racism if you want. Spin away and disgrace every real victim of racism by completely redefining what it means.
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
6 Sep 10
"I still contend that nobody pays as much attention to Obama's skin tone as his supporters."
It behooves me that some folks can't see very obvious racism. You may have differences with his policies. That's not arguable, which I tried to say above. And maybe as a White, some forms of racism are okay to you.
Of all the racist things said and "pictured" about Obama, and you can't be honest enough to say that some racist and bigoted Whites do pay attention to Obama's skin tone. When you use "nobody", you are using a very strong word. What? Did the KKK and Skinheads suddenly dissapear from America?
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
6 Sep 10
Hello fannitia,
What's else is there to do if they're not satisfy with the performance or the issues that still are not answered. the people of United States believed in freedom of expression that they can say what ever they want to the President.
So, i haven't really heard to racist comments against him, only in his performance. i could be wrong, but the people are the "BOSS" they have the right to judge.
@fannitia (2167)
• Bulgaria
7 Sep 10
LetranKnight, I respect the attitude you speak about. And by the way in this discussion I find many reasonable and interesting statements, but nothing of the words which prompted me to start the topic. Maybe the comments of you all attracted normal, good people.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
6 Sep 10
He didnt exactly win by a landslide, 57%. The deciding votes were Independent. Alot of these Independents are frustrated with his "big government" policies, raising taxes which he said he wouldnt do, his lack of transparency which was a campaign promise, the out of control spending from Congress, his lack of empathy, loss of focus, the "pass it so you can see whats in it", the people he is surrounding himself with...... Thats all that really comes to mind right off the bat.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 Sep 10
Correction, he got 53% and McCain got 46%. Democrats were so desperate for a landslide victory that they chose to flat out lie and call this one a landslide in the hopes that such lies would make it into the history books. In politics, if you tell a lie often enough it WILL become accepted as fact. Just look at the lies they teach in schools about Kennedy being the youngest president, Jackie Robinson being the first black Major League Baseball player, etc. If they keep that lie going then kids will learn how the first black president won in a landslide which was redefined as 53%.
If McCain had won, I don't think the Republicans would have become conservative at all. Obama was the kick in the pants they, and especially the American people, needed to realize how both parties were going in the wrong direction.
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@mattic (282)
• United States
6 Sep 10
laglen - Excellent point. Obama was swept into office not by the overwhelming black vote - dems usually get numbers pretty close to those O garnered from that demographic - but, I believe, his election was due to independents looking for an opportunity to be a part of history (coupled with decades of "white guilt" heaped on by government school teachers and professors). Add to it the fact that John McCain's platform was not that much different than Obama's (I don't think we would be as far along with a McCain presidency - if for no other reason than democrat foot dragging - but I think we would still be moving in a big government statist direction). All these factors, coupled with the media's complicity in failing to properly vet or analyze Obama's obvious lack of experience and leftist leanings, created the perfect storm for his election.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
7 Sep 10
I don't hate him. I hate the fact he has no idea what he's doing and keeps winging it to the detriment of the country and I hate the enablers who continually give him a pass each time he screws up.
@kukueye (1759)
• Malaysia
6 Sep 10
I think being the first Black American being the President has double the expectation from the public. And there are always behind the force trying to destroy him i guess because he is anti military withdrawaling the troops from war reducing the miliatary industry.Beside that first few controversial with BP how he handle the spill and also mosque 911 site issues , health care issues, and others is having a heavy toll on his performance.