People Problems..doing business
By mrfdg1972
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
Philippines
September 11, 2010 10:05am CST
I opened a new business, raising bitter melon / called Ampalaya (native to my country)I have these three guys, No.1 one of my loyal workers and a friend, he assumes my procedures are wrong, but with fair knowledge on the business i know i am right. he insist we do it the way he knows how it is done, but with much research i have come up with a better way to start the vegetable farm, No.2 he is an experienced farm guy but with the conservative way of growing bitter melon, we do have a lot of disputes and discussions and most of the time it is eating our time. i hired him coz he needs a job. No.3 i dont have much problem with this one, except sometimes he does not come to work and rather go out with his friends, he is only 19 years old. For the next days to come, i am going to be stricter with my rules, the problem that will arise as i can see will be losing the work harmony, i always tend to collect their views, i am no expert in raising bitter melon, but these people, once you dont accept their advice, they kind of work a bit slower. and that is not productive... i think i better fire them all.
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13 responses
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
11 Sep 10
Before you start firing people, sweetie, try this.
Give them one week of tasks to do. Make it a bit unfair on that amount of tasks, just to see what they can and cannot do and achieve in one week.
Give them the ultimatum, either they complete those tasks or they all will be without a job.
Hope that helps.
TATA.
PS: Never mix friendship and business, it always bite you in the butt.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
13 Sep 10
ahh, i ve seen it many times, but i just got to help them, anybody who needs assistance deserve my help. If i dont give what i can give, themwhat kind of man would i be.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
12 Sep 10
That is one of my common problem, we should.not hire our friends, coz when it comes this situation, then we we would be balancing friendship with business.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
11 Sep 10
Ifd this person doesn't value his work and tries to think smart with out dedication and hard work, then his being smart a$$ is useless. i think you'd better fire him or those who are not dedicated. it hurts you and you're business when an employee is taking you for granted, that's not good at all.promise.find some one dedicating, some one you can teach.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Sep 10
Listen to all their views which makes them feel important so they'll do their best to make your project a success. Every suggestive views should be taken into account but you have the last say in the whole project. Maybe to inspire your workers to work as a team you should give them shares of the profit. You remain the majority shareholder ofcourse.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
13 Sep 10
Profit sharing, i do that 10% net profit goes to them. In a condition that there are no fore seen problems in the succeeding days ( one week time)
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
12 Sep 10
First..congrats on your business venture. I think that you should do what you think best but I would like to throw something new at you. These guys you speak of do have their faults and I can see why you would feel the way you do. The problem is that there are always faults. As a new business owner..I think you should take each one aside and let them know exactly what you expect and what you want done...in a nice way...then you need to teach them to be the employees that you want them to be. If they break the rules you have laid out...set up a procedure that you will take with any employees that break rules. However you like but maybe something like...warning...write up...time off without pay...you know what I mean. This way they can stay around a while longer and you can show them you are running a professional business. Sometimes it is more profitable to teach the ones you have versus taking in someone new that you have to train all over. Good luck with whatever you decide and I hope you find great fortune in your business venture.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
13 Sep 10
I will take your last statement, Great Fortune I really need that.
@diogz22 (516)
• Philippines
12 Sep 10
I guess you just got off from the wrong foot. Dialogue is the solution for your problem of yours.
For Guy No.1 you can let him do his procedures for awhile test and observe if based on your knowledge his methodology is wrong. If it is wrong have a dialogue with him saying why not we try something different it might work something like that.
For Guy No.2 create a written methodology wherein your disputes and discussions are stipulated. This is important especially if the one your discussing is almost about the same topic all the time.
For Guy No.3 give what is just. Tell him he can't have his full salary if he always skip work. A written document must be signed by both parties sort of a contract.
The idea of firing them all will have a negative impact on your new business. Since they have the experience and the knowledge for growing the crop. You might have a hard time looking for one. It is best if you talk it out with them state them that you need to recover what you have invested and if they want to have a stable job they have to cooperate to make it work. Discussing things will help you manage your business well. Good luck to your business.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
13 Sep 10
Ok I have to write down your suggestion and approach them.
@irfbasona09 (15)
• Philippines
12 Sep 10
My comment is i will not fired them instead i will collect there good views and ideas that fit in my business and i will explain to them that i am the boss the last decision is mine.So i think that they will understand my situation.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
13 Sep 10
Welcome to mylot This happens to be your first post, Happy Mylotting, your suggestion is great
@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
11 Sep 10
Sounds horrible. I would be irritated. I've always wanted to open my own business so that I wouldn't have to be hired under anyone and take control on my own, but I guess the down for that is that you can't control anyone. Best to do it all yourself, if that is EVER possible. Best of luck.
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
12 Sep 10
You are in a hard position because one of them is your friend. I think you can try Saphrina suggestion. Give them an impossible works for a week and tell them that you don't care how they do it but they need to do it in a week. A lazy worker will quit cause he see that you are being impossible. A true worker will try hard to proof it to you that he is a good worker.
Good luck.
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
11 Sep 10
It is unfortunate that employee do not value their jobs as that is what they consider it to be just a job.
There are those so dedicated to their careers which allows a business to be enriched by all the efforts. Then there are those do not care for the business at all that all their actions cause a fruitful and exciting business to go down the drain.
May I suggest you really take a look at who is doing what. If the employees are the cause of a failing business by all means they must go. With the economy the way it is my friend there are so many diligent and hardworking people looking for any form of work and willing to put forth all their efforts to maintain a business and maintain their paychecks.
So yes fire them all and hire some true honest hard working employees to assist you with your dream. You did not start a business to help other drain your business. Good luck and onward with your business God Bless.
@ench815 (465)
• Philippines
11 Sep 10
It is good that you decided to be more strict with your rules. It is your business, after all. You don't want to incur losses, right?
As for your friend, he should understand that you are investing money on this and he is supposed to be there to help you while being paid. You could probably tell him in a nice way that according to your research, your way will maximize your harvest compared to the olden ways. There was a carpenter in our resort once who keeps on talking about what should be done. I simply said, "Ok, I understand what you mean and thank you but I'd rather do it this way. So let's get started because I'm running out of time." I said it nicely but he got my drift and did it the way I wanted.
As for his absences, you should deduct them from his salary. It is a way of teaching him discipline and work ethics. As a friend, he'll be grateful to have learned it from you. It will tell the rest of the workers too that you are serious about your business.
If all fails, then you should probably fire them all and get a new batch of workers who value their work more. I'm not sure if it is that hard to grow bittermelons commercially but I 've tried my hand on it in our backyard. It was a small patch of soil (1ftx3ft) and surrounded by cement but I was able to harvest and use the leaves too.
@dweebs_8000_j (885)
• Philippines
12 Sep 10
also, one needs to once in a while, amend some policies, but it is really proven to build a rapport TO--- Stick to the exesting agreements to establish respect, if you issue a no-no, then it is a must to follow a no-no... but if it is a Yes-yes, then we will accept a yes...
@enthusiasticone (348)
• China
12 Sep 10
glad to read your message here. and i am an international trader in china. and i know something for better business. first , we should do something for other peoples (especially the special persons)advice. that's important for our business . second , the most important is that your employee must obey your rule because thats your own business for the profit. so just do it if you think you are right for your market. i will be so glad if i can help you little on this problem . thank you .
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
13 Sep 10
Hello Enthisiasticone, i can see you have a better relationship with your workers, Its true they must obey me, the sad thing though is they think they are helping me in their own way but ultimately its hurting the business.
@richard03 (133)
• Philippines
12 Sep 10
nowadays especially in our country, it is very hard to find a decent job, at the same time there are a lot of people looking for. If the case is your employees are not doing there job well, you can give them a warning, and if still no improvement on their part, i think that you have to hire other people, because thee is also a big factor that a down fall of a business is cause by the employees. better think fast bro!!!