Muslims...Where's That Love That You All Have Been Talking About?
By skysuccess
@skysuccess (8858)
Singapore
September 13, 2010 12:07am CST
I think I have just about read enough of the recent Koran burning incident that I just could not help asking the Muslims here this question.
First, there was that insensitive act of trying to build a mosque near Ground Zero where suicidal terror cells brought down both Towers in the name of Islam. With families and love ones from the site and planes coming to terms with their losses and still mourning and hurting memories still fresh, I just cannot help feeling the insensitivity from the Muslims.
Since the emergence of terrorists from the Muslim radical extremist groups, the Islamic leaders had never used ANY righteous force to eradicate these groups and they want to teach the rest of the non Muslims about doing the right thing and righteousness, when all they can think about in remembrance of the tragedy is to build a mosque when they should be tidying their own backyard to prove to the world that Islam does not condone their horrendous acts or support these terrorists groups.
Then, this burning of Koran which is being declared by one individual Christian radical that goes by the name of Terry Jones and the world including his own countrymen vehemently criticized, condemned and discouraged the act and him.
What did the Muslims do?
The usual threats to non Muslims especially the American people as claimed by Feisal Abdul Rauf that the act would strengthened their radicals (Muslims) and enhanced the possibility of terrorist acts against America and American interests.
What a claim?
Now, to all the Muslims here - is this what you call Islamic love? The love for peace? The love for non Muslims?
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@ehsanji (503)
• Pakistan
13 Sep 10
Associating the mosque building around the area of ground zero with terrorism and then 9/11 is something idiotic itself. We all know that what happened on 9/11 has got nothing to do with Islam. 9/11 was something planned by the shareholders, which includes the Bush's Administration and Bush Family's rich shareholders around the world. The involvement of Israel in this regard is not something hidden. But this will diverge the topic to another direction.
First of all, when a person kills in the name of religion, actually that person is not doing anything good to that religion, no matter how much he justifies that. Secondly, according to Newton's law, for every action, there is an opposite reaction. Suppose Osama, Al-Qaeda and other Muslim terrorist groups were involved in the incident of 9/11, but, let me ask you something. Does it give the right to kill thousands of innocent men and women and children in Afghanistan? Does it give the right of destroying thousands of homes and businesses? Does it give the right to misplace thousands of people from their homes and cities? No! It doesn't! Imagine how much hatred it caused when the Americans did that. And yet people expect Muslims to be all pro-Americans. That is amateurism and idiotic to believe so.
On what basis the Iraq got attacked? Weapons of mass destruction? Killing thousands of people in the name of giving freedom to Iraq! WOW! A bunch of rednecks sitting out there in Pentagon and ordering their armed forces to run over thousands of people, doing the massacre just to have control on the oil resources! And yet you expect Muslims to be super cool and nice! What are you? A hypocrite who has no knowledge of what is happening in the real world?
What happened on 9/11 was something very terrible. It ruined so many lives and people will never ever forget their loved ones who lost their lives. The whole world condemned it including Muslims. No human or religion will never ever appreciate what happened on 9/11. But using 9/11 as an excuse to occupy on Muslim territories is something that shocks the people, and the hatred is natural then.
As far as building the mosque there is concerned, so if you have any knowledge about the rights given to an American citizen states that: People from different religions in the U.S. has right to follow their religions by staying within the limits provided by the U.S. laws.
Building that mosque near the ground zero will remind people of the game that was played, a big hypocritical approach by the people of that time, who were involved in doing that. And time will reveal the whole story. A far as Islam is concerned, it doesn't teach the Muslims to kill people. This is what the problem is. People don't read what Islam says. People see what Muslims do which is wrong.
You don't blame the Mercedes company if the car of that company hits a 10 years old on the road. You will blame the driver, right? I hope you will get the point.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
13 Sep 10
ehsanji,
Call me whatever you want but I just have to ask this blatant question if people from the Islamic world could retaliate with such cohesive destructible force to those who commit blasphemies and discrimination against Islam, then where is that retaliation to those that blatantly commit acts of terror in the name of Allah or Islam?
How much more for those Muslim terrorists? But where is it?
You claim with so much certainty, conviction and discernment that the perpetrators in the 911 siege are non Muslims but along with the rest of the world, I challenge your naive and baseless theory that the 911 is orchestrated by the Bush's Administration and Bush Family's rich shareholders around the world.
I am sorry but until this is proven I believe, together with the majority rest of the world - where we all heard and saw the responsibility claim by Osama himself for the 911 siege which are the undeniable trademarks of Muslim terrorists broadcast and telecast on all media and wavelengths.
I feel that your posts reeks nothing but an emotional charge which otherwise could have been a very discerning response indeed. Let me add that it would really greatly help that you get your chronological clock in order before you post your facts. Check out what led to the 911 siege, I can assure you that it is way before US appear in the Middle East or alleged that there were WMD in Iraq.
Wow! I am really glad that you are not writing the history books here. Also, I think you can tell the rest of the world that the Al Qaeda, Talibans and Al Mujaheddins are NON Muslim. If they aren't and are using the name of Islam in vain and for acts of atrocities then why aren't the TRUE Muslims doing something to them?
Last but not least, I believe that when a child misbehaves in the public whether the child is born or adopted - everyone around will not only look at the child but the adult parent as well.
I hope you got the real point here.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
14 Sep 10
Hello there,
I believe extremism and fanatics exist in both sides, whether it may be christian or Muslim. as for the Muslims., i believed those who committed such acts are not blinded but fanatically and literally believed in nonsense promises that they will be rewarded in heaven for killing other non muslims, which we all know as a sham.
regarding to your discussion, that's why Burning of the Q'ran is wrong since it's not the Christian way of doing things. it's just pure blind hate in my opinion. and yeah, if some one did burn quran on that day then it could have been another fuel added to the fire.
It's sad to say that some believers tend to only pick up the verses in their religion books that involves killings,segregation or hating others who don't believe in their religion.
there are other extremist, Muslim Extremist are basically the most popular... 
@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
13 Sep 10
This is what happens when two very different cultures and religions try to occupy the same space. Especially two cultures and religions that have a long history of not getting along. Both Islam and Christianity are about spreading their message. Naturally both want their message spread far and wide. I honestly don't see why people champion diversity when it is the source of so many conflicts in countries that are diverse. How many racial conflicts has America had? It would be nice if we could all coexist in perfect harmony but that is not the real world. In the real world we all have our own interests and we all think we are right.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
13 Sep 10
BlueGoblin,
Well, here's the thing about occupancy in the same space and that is coexisting without having to feel edgy or pushed.
Living harmoniously certainly requires the work of both parties within and outside of their communities. I don't think anyone would want to overstep their boundaries and teach the other party what to do.
Yet, if a party can stay neutral and do nothing when the people within are using their ethnicity, name or religion to cause destruction and deaths. Then, I am sure after a period of time people will just bring their understanding and elevate an intent which is retaliation.
@dccell (337)
• Indonesia
13 Sep 10
it seem that you really hate terrorist. me too i hate them , i`am a Muslim but i`am not a terrorist and i still believe that Islam is the Right answer for whoever wish to know God and their their purposes of life. people are sometimes very extreme when comes to their faith and believe, it shows in all their act and daily life including their statement, an extremist never let any other believes and faith to take a part in any ways ever, they commonly close minded and they judge other instantly. I hope you are not an extremist to any party or believes. happy lotting
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
13 Sep 10
dccell,
I don't literally hate terrorists, I just detest them for carrying out orders which does not make sense and bring about mass destruction and lost of innocent lives.
Regretfully, it has not stopped despite the many efforts worldwide to stop them. I just have to wonder why and how. I don't think the answer is at all difficult when there are strong supporting and shielding elements from the other end to justify their existence.
Don't worry, if I am another extremist then this discussion would not have existed or started in the first place.
Take care and have a nice day.
@rossdale01 (4)
• Netherlands
13 Sep 10
Let me clarify where the muslims find the love you are ask for. The KKK or Christian Identity movement. The people like you who think that burning their holy book is a good thing. And the people like Geert Wilders who have facist ideas about one single population. While not all muslims are terrorists. 99% of the muslims are normal people just like you and me. So instead of asking Where's that love that you all have been takking about?" Ask: What did I do for a better relationship with my neighbors from a other country? A better world starts with ur self!
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
13 Sep 10
rossdale01,
Excuse me, but what are you clarifying?
Let's not forget that love includes disciplining and admonishing when there's a wrong. I think it is people like you that don't get the point when 99% of the non Muslims are AGAINST the burning of the Koran.
Please get your facts right and as in your words start with yourself.
While you may be spot on that 99% of the Muslims are normal people and not all Muslims are terrorists but let me remind you that these radicals are claiming terrorism responsibilities in the name of Islam. So, if the Muslim world can react so VIOLENTLY to the burning of the Koran declaration which was not even carried out, then where are the reactions on those who conduct acts of terrorism in the name of Allah or Islam.
Last but not least, how can you live with a neighbor who does not see the life threatening flaw and address it? And, you expect the non Muslims to relate and understand when people are claiming these acts are justifiable in the name of Islam and under the umbrella of Jihad?
Who are you trying to kid? Yourself?
@rossdale01 (4)
• Netherlands
13 Sep 10
I can't blame a muslim neighbor for the 9/11 attack you see?
Ok, there are some radicals who claim everything what they do is in the name of Allah/God or Islam. But so do other people in our very own USandA claim to do VIOLENT Attacks in the name of GOD or Christ. Like the Church of Israel, Aryan Nations, Church of Jesus Christ Christian, World Wide Church of God, Eric Robert Rudolph, Andrew Beachem, Randall Terry, The Kehoe family, the KKK, or the 2 skinheads who got arrested for their Obama assasination plot. All in the name of Jesus or Christianity. And they are not life threatning?
And the burning of the koran was carried out, maybe not by Terry Jones but 2 other Radical Christians have burned ( Bob Old and Danny Allen).
The all do it in name of love dont they?
I guess you are the one that does not want to see the reality.
You cant hide the truth.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
14 Sep 10
rossdale01,
Did the world or the non Muslims or families of the tragic 911 ask you to blame a Muslim neighbor?
Glad that you admit that there are some radicals in your midst but compared to those that you mentioned I am sure they are all being nipped in the bud. Have they committed further fatalities or crimes or terrorism?
So, Terry Jones did not carry out his lunacy but 2 other radical Christians. However, let me ask you again - where are Bob Old and Danny Allen now? Compared to Osama Bin Laden, Abdul Rahman Yasin, Fazul Abdullah Mohammed, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Hassan Izz-Al-Din and company whom I am sure you are familiar with what they are responsible and wanted for.
And, you are going to tell me that they are killing in the name of love? Also, didn't their followers in the midst of Muslim majority in their country declare them as heroes and the country's authorities - governmental and religious has not done anything? Why? I think you are aware that they had justified their heinous act to be one which is what you are all familiar with - Jihad! Correct me if I am wrong here.
Back to you - YOU CANNOT HIDE THE TRUTH!
@donharis (305)
• Pakistan
4 Jul 11
I Have also a Question for u..
When will America stop interfering our nations?
Muslims dont kill the Non Belivers..The Proof is that did u heared any muslims attack on China? Japan? Srilanka, Filpines..etc etc..
it is bcoz they dont interfer in our nations...
1st u attack and then when Muslim Reply to the attack..U called it Terrorism...just Like Israel occupied the Palastine..and noe palastine is an Terrorist state..
Just for one time think like a human... not muslim, not christan not any religion our any patriotic thinking..
JUST THINK ABOUT THE SATIUATION OF THE WORLD AS A HUMAN..AND THEN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS
@chona0912 (103)
•
14 Sep 10
hi , i'm not a muslim and i cannot really understand why most terrorist are muslim. Others say that their religion is not teaching bad things but then why do they like to kill in the name of allah ? I just pray that God would help end this war , this hatred.
