Birth of terrorism....

Hi eshaan, actually there are psychopaths who are born with cruel tendencies. These tendencies of course evolve over generations. This may be because of one generation too many undergoing hardships leading to genetic predisposition to be defiant of social norms. Having said that, I also agree that not every terrorist is a psychopath. Circumstances make him so. If we try to be just in our actions, there will be ripple effect. Thanks for participating eshaan. :)

You admitted they have grievances. Religious or economic grievance? Obviously there may be some injustice or oppression there. So you are stating something like what I have stated. :) Isn't it? :)

The month is September, remember? :) And you know what I meant.

Oh for Pete's sake, you two. Should i get the whips or 2 brooms??

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I agree. At times, both sides of argument seem so right. Even the people who are doing wrong may not be realizing it. It takes a lot of analysis to decide who is or was right. Even then, ego conflicts may surface. But if we do try to be just as far as we can be, I think we can bring down a feeling of mistrust and hatred that comes up.

I think saphy - the sense of right and wrong goes haywires when the person undergoes hardships. While many people dont think, there are quite a few whose sense of right and wrong is wrongly wired. :) I have an aunt, who took a lot of convincing by outsiders about her beliefs that she held since childhood! In her case, her father was a gambler, so financially they were in doldrums. So when she borrowed, she thought it absolutely alright not to return. :)

the way my family once said its not your situation what makes you you are what you make of yourself. there are a number of people who have strayed down the wrong path in the beginning only to make a right turn onto the right path. there are a lot of people that say they lived in a terrible neighborhood the parents didnt love them people picked on them but in the end i agree with saphrina its all about common sense if you dont like where you live then do something to change it dont do the same as others ruining their life. and i as a mother of two children have to remain fair and unbiased i feel i am and that i give a person a second chance

Yes Vannie, but still where is that common sense? You cannot buy it, you know. That sweetie, is so true. More should start thinking like you.

I think insane is not the right word. Insanity does not essentially culminate into cruel actions. Being brainwashed is something even armed forces are. I think of people in middle east. Especially the richer nations like Saudi, and Kuwait. They never seem to fight or have any major squabble. That makes me think that it must have something to do with having enough. I cant say those in Saudi are the most literate. If the general feeling of hatred needs to be considered, Saudi should have been a major force in the world dictating terms. Instead, it is truly lost in its own contentment. I am not sure sound people dont become terrorists. In fact, chances of sound people becoming terrorists is more because somewhere under all this is love for somebody, and consequently love for money. Yeah, I too heard IT top guys and their terrorist links. But it could also be because they have taken some obligations in the past, or are or were coerced into it. I think they get their monies out of extortion. Remember we had the December 25th hijack? :) That money cannot reach the bank through any single individual as numbers could be traced. As to preachers, and orthodoxy, I am with you more than 100 percent.

For family to care properly for children, it should have means. Recently there were floods in Pakistan. Many people lost their homes. How do you think they can afford to look after their families? Obviously they will be going as day laborers, and eventually their children will land with some terrorists. If we could spare at the right time the right amount so that they could find their bearings, it would help not only them, but us as well in future. That is what I meant.

As to the mature people, I think they get into it if they do not have enough time to think. In today's fast paced world, we are truly short of time. Whatever time we have, it is used up by television channels and socializing instead of reflecting on various issues. I am inclined to agree with you a 100 percent - armed forces have no business to kill the man's brother - except when the brother is abetting the wrong. In any event, wouldn't it be better to maim the person - shoot at legs, or arms - take captive kinda thing instead of killing? That way the person can be told - you are from my country - you were siding wrong so though I have shot you, it is only to prevent wrong and do my duty, not to kill you. I think army errs if it kills innocent citizens, there is no two way about that. There is one small doubt I have here. If the "innocent" is verbally provoking the others to defy the army - seditious speech - then what? If the army chooses to maim - others would definitely rise against the armed forces. Its a confusing situation. I have to think it over. Frankly, I really dont understand these separatists. In so far as Britishers were concerned, they were taking away monies and using it for their people. Here, in states like Nagaland, Manipur, and Kashmir, Indian government is or was trying to develop them as tourist centers, and develop industries there. No Indian is allowed to hold properties within Kashmir, if you are aware of that. So definitely, we were just tourists going to that place. Whatever we paid for shikaras, and movie shootings was their earning. We bought Kashmir silk sarees. Its almost 20 years of separatist movement. I cant call it freedom struggle. Freedom is needed when there are injustices. Injustices came after the separatist movement took over the place. Personally, I say give all these states whatever they want. I remember a book, if I remember right by G.B.Shaw, in which the ruler lets the people take charge for sometime, and people realize that it is not what they really want and return the king back to throne. So instead of using force, may be we should try that. After all, force is not working.

"I think those are more likely used asexcuses but people almost born in the agression of a runaway terrorizing religion" People like the good Christian Timothy McVeigh?

Hatley, it is not the adults who get into it. It is the kids. These feelings start at much younger age. So we cant really say they are excuses. I think if we are fair in everything, and not allow bullying around us, we can improve the situation.

That is so tough to do, isn't it? :)

What Maoists did is horrible. But what would you if Indian army raped, killed, flogged with thorns, buried alive non-combatants relatives of 'terrorists' so that these people will not attack the army? If army kill Maoist or vice versa it's combatants killing combatants. But would you attribute an act as terrorism if Indian army do similar horrible things to the civilians in militants infested area? As a person coming from area where AFSPA is applicable Indian army has terrorised the non-combatant public 1000 times more than militants.

I am inclined to agree with what headhunter says. Army gets away as pampered child because it holds the weapons. When it is wrong, armed forces should be judged like any other civilian. Government is working on those rules. @Professor, any form of picking arms is bad. Why cant we all think things in a mature way without injustice to anybody, and not doing things against others wishes? Why some people are coerced to do things they dont desire or dont want to do? We have to change as a society.

Hi Jotomy - I am good. How are you doing? :) Yes, there can be many reasons, but I think ultimately - it boils down to love and hardships. Bin Laden comes from a very large family. He is also from a rich family. In all probability, he saw his mother or siblings being troubled. Greed may be one of the causes, but greed cant reach such gigantic proproportions, but I may be wrong. And by charity I meant - when we donate for any of those people whose homes are washed away in floods, or who have become homeless due to earthquake, we are not doing them a favor, we are doing us a favor. Because somewhere there must be one child who could have become a real bad terrorist, but we prevented it, indirectly, we saved our own lives. :)

My contention is wiring wrong occurs because of something that they see or feel. That is then increased with constant usage of only one type of incidents through modern methods such as video, and audio tapes.