Do Doctors Just Want our Money?

@dorannmwin (36392)
United States
September 15, 2010 2:58pm CST
My husband has been dealing with various medical issues throughout this year. These range from the two surgeries that he had earlier this year for kidney stones to now lower back pain. He had his first appointment with a specialist today for the back pain and she didn't do anything for him for right now except to tell him to come back in a month and refer him to three other doctors to visit in the mean time. This is really a difficult situation for us because we rely on his income to get by and we are barely able to make it at times. These additional doctor's visits mean that we are out $50 each visit not to mention the missed time from work. So, the question is, do you think that doctor's require us to have more visits than are really necessary just to make more money off of their patients? Have you had the experience when you were dealing with an ailment in your life and it literally takes them months to get you on the road to recovery?
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
15 Sep 10
I don't think it's about wanting money, I think it's about covering their butts and avoiding law suits. If that doctor told you whatever he thought the problem was, and gave you a prescription or whatever.. then a month later your problem is worse, you'd sue and that doc would lose a lot of money and time, etc. By referring you to other doctors it's more likely to get a proper diagnosis which will not end up in a malpractice suit... or you'd just end up suing one of the other docs instead of the referring doc. At least then they could say they sent you to see these other ones so it's not his fault the problem wasn't corrected.
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• United States
16 Sep 10
I agree with you Kat. I think everyone is so sue happy these days, that everyone needs to cover their butts a lot more than back in the day. I am sure there are a fair amount of doctors that just want to get your money, but I think it is mainly the sue factor. I have finally found a doctor that is very good about having me come in every 6 months to see her, however, I need to come in every three months for blood work. If the tests come out bad, then she wants to see me sooner (I am diabetic).
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I do agree with you to a certain extent, but some of the referrals don't make any sense at all whatsoever. The main one that I am talking about is a referral to a psychologist. I don't see any way shape or form that a psychologist can help with a back problem.
@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
16 Sep 10
I think there are unnecessary visits we can avoid for sure. I don't know about doctors, but i think pharmaceuticals are mostly out for our money.... there is so much we can do to avoid medications but I guess it may be convenient for the busy society.
• Philippines
16 Sep 10
well there are generic medicines that we could purchase, same quality but at a more cheaper price, so i don't think they are the ones who are up to our money
@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
16 Sep 10
You can't buy generic medicine if you need a prescription. I know someone who works at a doctors office and pharmaceutical reps come to the office to bribe doctors.
@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Yes, it's unfortunate.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
15 Sep 10
One does wonder. I have run into this and have found it's good to research the problem on the Internet and go in somewhat prepared. Then be sure to question any referrals. Ask what is going to be gained by that referral. Often they refer by rote and if questioned will reconsider the need. You can also explain that you are short of funds and time and ask for other solutitions. After all a Doctor sees 8 to 10 or more patents per day, and each week they see many with the same problems, unless you stand out from the crowd you will get the same treatment as the others. Good Luck
@savypat (20216)
• United States
18 Sep 10
Stand up for yourself, no one else is going to know your situation unless you explain it to them. I make sure all my medical people know we are not well off. It's not place for pride.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Sep 10
That is a pretty good idea. I guess I tend to be the person that accepts things at face value. You are probably right that we should make sure that the doctors understand our situations.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Perhaps I will have him call back to the office and explain our financial situation to them. I can understand having to pay something for the medical care that we need, but when it measures in the hundreds of dollars per month, I think that it is more than most people can afford.
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
16 Sep 10
I very rarely go to doctors, I think it depends on the doctor, and that is sad. Sometimes I wonder if they care more about the patients or the science. I prefer to use alternative health products, like Limuplus, I hear it helps loads of people pain(though I could be biased) I will even send you a free bottle just so you can try it, if you like. Your call. Could also ask around at the local natural health store. Or look up foods about it, never know what changing your diet can do. Ever wonder why what a doctor does is called a practice? Cheers.
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
18 Sep 10
That was tricky joke question....
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Sep 10
Well, if I didn't have the background in medicine that I do have I wouldn't have a clue as to why they call it a practice. However, knowing what I do know, I know why it is called a practice.
@sallyj (1225)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I was truly surprised today, when i went to a Retina specialist, he looked in my eyes, said things were stable and only if i had future problems that i or my regular eye surgeon found was i to return to see him. Very unusual. It had been a year since i had been referred to him. Good news. Unusual.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Sep 10
I'm glad to hear that things are stable for you for right now. I hope that we are able to get his issues straightened out and not have to put out money for medical bills for at least a little while.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Sep 10
It does sound like you have a full plate in that area.
@sallyj (1225)
• United States
18 Sep 10
Well the RA and high cholesterol keep me busy. It sure takes a lot to try to keep up, that is for sure.
• United States
15 Sep 10
Do Doctors Just Want our Money? I certainly have felt that way sometimes especially with our dentist. I have had to pay money for cleanings when cleanings are suppose to be free with our insurance. My husband has been going to see them about every 3 months for a while now. I haven't been in a year. I am looking into changing dentists. Seems like whenever I go to this dentist, I pay alot of money out of pocket even with insurance and I didn't use to have to do this. It;s like this even though I will ask them how much the visit will cost so I know what I am paying. After a visit, I'll get a statement with them wanting more money.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I think that dentists could be the worst. We took my daughter in because she had a filling that had come out and they called out with a list of things that needed to be done to her teeth a mile long. What made it even worse is that they charged us for these services before they were done and that we never intended to have done. We did file a dispute with our credit card and got the money back, but not before the harm was done.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Sep 10
With my daughter it wasn't that they recommended braces. Instead, they wanted to pull out all of her baby teeth because her mouth is crowded which would have left her with no teeth until the adult teeth grew in. It would have been horrible for her.
• United States
18 Sep 10
I have had the same thing happen when I have taken my 3 daughters in to see the dentist. They name off all these things that need to be done. They (the dentists) at one point suggested all of our daughters get braces. I wouldn't agree to it because I have 2 nephews who when they were young their teeth were very crooked but as they grew up their teeth straightened out. All my daughters are older now and 2 of them are grown and their teeth are fine now. I have heard if you use the retainer that if you stop, your teeth will move either back in the place they were or close to it. Don't know how true that is. I haven't done any research on it but I have heard tell of it from my daughters who have friends of theirs had this happen to them.
@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
18 Sep 10
Personally this is definately something I have wondered about and it can be quite frustrating for sure. I know with many of the Health issues I have I have experienced simular situations lately, and wonder if someone is just afraid to do anything, or admit they do not know, and with getting someone else to also see you if no one knows, then he or she does not feel so bad in the end. Why it is happening is beyond me and frustrating. But maybe for you it is time to start doing some research and taking matters into your hands and finding what will help him the Best. My thoughts and Prayers are with you.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Sep 10
The way that I am leaning for him at this point in time is that I am thinking that it might be a good idea to get a second opinion with another doctor and see if they also recommend seeing all the different specialists as well.
@eshaan (6188)
• India
19 Sep 10
many doctors do that way...they keep something pending and ask us to visit after 15 or 10 days...some in the name of care...say that let me know your position no 3rd day or 4th...and when we visit thinking that its just to show them how is our condition ...they will give something more...and again ask for money...
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Sep 10
That is kind of what I think part of the case may be. They want to get as much co-pay money out of people as they can before they will give them the answers because after you've gotten the answers, that could mean the end of their treatment course.
@dloveli (4366)
• United States
16 Sep 10
Hey lady. I hear you on this one. Doctors are very different these days than when I was growing up. We pay all this money and they come in for ten seconds and then bounce. That's why I went to med school. At least I know Im trying to make it better. In my city they have free clinics. Maybe you could investigate that. You know what I did before I had the insurance I have now. I go to the Emergency room. They have to treat you. They have to give free care. Do that. Explain to them if they ask this is the only way you can give your family the care it needs. They'll help. Im gonna see what I can find out. Ill get back to you. good luck. dl
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Sep 10
I honestly planned on going to med school but my daughter came in the way of that plan. My father was a PA and because I grew up with him, I knew that I wanted to help people. I've worked in the medical field and honestly one day I do plan on going to nursing school.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Sep 10
I think it's a combination of things. Some doctors are greedy, sure. But there are other things going on. Some insurances require certain tests before they will approve procedures. And then there are malpractice suits. Some doctors do as many tests as possible to cover their behinds in case they get sued. Many of them genuinely care about their patients though.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I really do understand about the chance of malpractice suits and such, but I also don't see why trying to get an MRI of your back because you think you've got slipped or herniated discs means that you also have to see a GI doctor and also a psychologist.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Sep 10
A GI doctor, no clue, a psychologist, maybe for depression? idk
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
15 Sep 10
I am so sorry to hear of your husband's surgeries. I had kidney stones many years ago and it is as painful as childbirth. I handed my six month old baby to a lady we employed to help me and went into the bathroom and tried to knock myself out by banging my head against the tiled floor. I kid you not. Unbearable pain. You have to experience it to know what it is like. I lived in a deserted place in the country and my husband was not there. I was admitted to the hospital later that night. I sometimes think that the medical profession can be tainted by greed. I am sorry to say that but in my country if you do not have money or good insurance coverage then you will die.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
17 Sep 10
I am so sorry that he has suffered so much and do hope that the problem will be solved. Blessimgs
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
The pain that he went through with the kidney stones was unbearable and I could tell it. However, we did learn of some of the greed in that case because his urologist wasn't really that comprehensive. That said, this is a completely unrelated problem and they are still trying to get him to see everyone and their brother.
• United States
16 Sep 10
first of all I will say... $50 dollars is cheap for around here, really cheap. Second, I do think alot of docters do just want your money, especially here in alabama (US) because at min. your probably going to have a $70 bill for each visit, that you ussually have to pay right then. Then they will schedule you back for just about anything. Dnt understand it really. *sigh
@bounce58 (17385)
• Canada
17 Sep 10
I think one response here mentioned that it is to cover their butts. I think I agree with that. It is like 'comfort in numbers'. Of course they would send you to other doctors, or ask you for another visit, as they figure out what the diagnosis is. And what I hate the most when getting sick like this is the double-ding, like you said. You are already out a certain amount because of the visit and the medicine you have to buy, plus you also miss work which means you get paid less.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Sep 10
A second opinion I could understand. And even to see a physical therapist or something for the problem I could understand. What I don't understand, however, is referrals to completely different specialists.
• Vietnam
16 Sep 10
many doctors in vietnam is so greedy, they always ask for the money for better service :(
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Sep 10
I don't honestly think that greed is isolated to one place in the world.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Sep 10
hi dorannmwin sometimes I think that too, but again these moneygrubbing health insurance companies almost force doctors to do some of those very shenanigans. I have had to fuss to g et new diabetic shoes every couple of years, and its not my doctor that hold it up but my hmo'with its stiff copay, twnty percent, they charge an ungodly one thousand dollars for leather shoes with a brace, custom fitted by taking molds of my feet, an this last pair was r eally bungled and after the fourth attempt to make them right, I just a ccepted them as I had no other choice really as they are orthopedic shoes to accomodate a misshapen foot because the fool quack dr I had then did not know a sprained ankle from a ruptured tendon in my foot, so when I got to a foot specialist he cou ld only put me in special shoes with a brace for my bad foot so I could just walk. yes it takes months to get the referral then get my feet molded and start the shoe making process and they charge way way too much.We are again starting the same process but I hope to get sent to a different place and get my shoes done to fit my feet this time.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I imagine that having to deal with those difficulties with your feet would be quite an issue. I could end up in close to the same position that you are in if I ever mess up my ankle again. I broke it when I was a child and I was told if it is ever broken again I'll never be able to walk without some sort of brace or support.
@nancy0618 (477)
• Philippines
16 Sep 10
yes i do think so, maybe there are some doctors who are not, say in 100% only five percent to do not look after money, i always met doctors who have high fee but almost doing nothing to his patients
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
When I was younger I wanted to be a doctor because of the fact that I wanted to help people. However, as I grew older I came to realize that there is a lot of corruption in the field and that was when my mind was changed.
• Philippines
16 Sep 10
Hi! I wish he gets well soon. Yes, I experienced this last year. So, first check up, I paid. Then I was asked to have some test done. When I got the result of the test, I came back and then I was asked to pay again. I mean??? Hello, just reading the result I need to pay again. And then, she was not convinced and ask her husband to check me and the result, and I was asked to pay again. OMG, this couple doctors are money making doctors. So, to make long story short, I got operated. And when I returned just for the doctor to check the wound, I need to pay again. The result of the biopsy was not there yet, so when I was asked to come back for the result, I'm so sure I will need to pay again. So, when I came back I just took the result from the receptionist and left. I feel that their money hungry. So, sad that there are doctors like this couple.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
18 Sep 10
This happened to my husband earlier in the year as well with a different doctor. They said to come back in a couple days and when he went back they made him pay again. It made me very unhappy.
@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
15 Sep 10
They are doctors and doctors. Like in every other department, here as well are those who are conscious and like to make a job well, for their own satisfaction. And there are those for who this is only a job, an opportunity to make money. In our country, doctors are very poorly paid, so in the majority of cases we have to give them extra money to do surgeries that should be covered by the medical insurance. Of course, not everybody pretends it, but because the majority of them does, we tend to give them an amount of money before the operation, to be assured that he will do his job well. And there are doctors who only accept the money after the operation, as a gift. Personally, I have nothing against this category, because I know how much they have learned to become doctors, and how much responsibility is in their hands. Many of us are angered by the fact that they have to pay extra for every surgery or consultation, but we have a major problem. Good doctors emigrate because they are offered good salaries in other countries, almost ten times what they get here, or even more. So I think this is a thing we should accept, because otherwise we risk to remain without competitive doctors.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I do think that it is important to have competitive doctors. But I also think that there are things about the medical system that are broken. It is those things that are broken that really drive me up the wall.
@rautrahul (267)
• India
16 Sep 10
It is difficult to say that doctors just want our money. But it is their profession they are working as doctor only for earning money & it has become a bussiness for many doctors & only a way for earning money. But I dont think that all doctors are working only for money, some are there who think that the people should be cured as early as possible.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
You are probably right here. I think that there are still some people that are in the field for the right reason but we as patients tend to have our views jaded by those that are in the field for the wrong reasons.
• United States
16 Sep 10
yes most do because my ob doctor didnt even seem like he cared about my baby or me just go thru the visit so quick and i was out of there and he on to the next person.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Now when I was pregnant with both of my children, I really felt like the OBs that I had genuinely did care about mine and my baby's health. Heck, they were even there to deliver the babies themselves instead of just letting whomever was on call do it.