Glenn Beck to Fat People - "I Say Let Them Die!"
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
September 16, 2010 7:02pm CST
Now, PLEASE don't bother telling me, "He was only JOKING" or, "He was being facetious." I know that, but it was still ridiculous and outrageous and totally offensive!
BECK: When I heard this I thought, get your damn hands off my fries, lady. If I want to be a fat fat fatty and shovel French Fries all day long, that is my choice. But oh oh, not so fast anymore. Because now we have the new fact, whether you like it or not, we have government health care now. … You know those fat people sitting on their couches? And I mean really fat. I don’t mean not like me. I mean the people who’s skin grows into the couch. … I say let them die. I say punish the person who’s been bringing them the milk shakes that allowed them to eat and not get up off the couch. Am I too harsh?
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/15/beck-obesity-die/
I wonder if his crush, Sister Sarah, is going to call him out for advocating "death panels for fat people"? What a disgrace!
Annie
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
17 Sep 10
If this guy ever appeared on British television he'd be censored most of the time. He's a lunatic and I've no time for the idiot at all.
I really think he's out to shock as - from what someone told me on here, he was a completely different character in 2001 to what he's become now. Maybe he's pressurised to come out with bile like you mention but, if he had balls (which he doesn't because he wants to make money) he'd say "I'm not saying this anymore..cya!!"
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@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Try "CBS News commissioned a crowd estimate by the company AirPhotosLive.com. The network reported that AirPhotosLive estimated the crowd at 87,000 people. But they noted that with a margin of error of 9,000, 'between 78,000 and 96,000 attended the rally.'" That's LESS THAN 100,000. NOT a half million!!!
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
17 Sep 10
iowachap, I don't think insulting me is called for. You don't even know the state of my teeth so that's a bit unfair.
At least us Brits have a PERSONALITY! We don't rely on our teeth to look good, it all comes from the inside.
Just ask Ricky Gervais who refuses to have his teeth whitened for the Yanks.
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@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Although I actually agree with his initial statement that it's no one's business what I eat, his follow-through comment, though supposedly facetious, will only serve to inflame his extremist followers (those who thinks his words, like those of Rush and Faux News, are Gospel, inspired, almost divine). It may become dangerous in some areas for people who are overweight (watch out, Rush!) if these people believe he meant those words.
It's just something that shouldn't be said the way he said it. It's not like he said, "The next thing you know, we'll be told fat people should die." He said, "...let them die." HE said the words. He didn't suggest someone else would say them. Devoted, but over-the-edge, followers could take those words and create an entirely different meaning from them. Not unlike those "right to lifers" who take lives at abortion clinics. That fringe element. If you're going to be working with nitroglycerin, you need to NOT shake the damned bottle!!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Sep 10
"My concern was his comment about letting them die and punish their enablers."
But see he was saying that is what the government would do. He was not advocating this. Annie used a snippet from a blog that is well known for lying. If she actually watched the program or read the UNEDITED transcript she'd know that and so would you.
It wasn't anything Beck, or any other radio/tv personality said that caused criminals to attack innocent Muslims (and some non-Muslims). Those people were thugs just looking for an excuse to attack someone. Either way that was a completely different situation. Muslims actually KILLED thousands of people so they were seen as a threat to ignorant people who saw all muslims as terrorists. Nobody is claiming that fat people are killing anyone.
@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
17 Sep 10
My concern was his comment about letting them die and punish their enablers. Just as there were some in the fringes who decided that abortion clinics deserved "an eye for an eye", comments like that could bring out another element in the fringes. Just like the assumption that all Muslims are terrorists and all those who wear turbans are Muslim caused some of the more radical types to kill innocent people in retaliation for the 2001 attacks, there are just some things that are best left unsaid, even if thought. Or rephrased in a way that prevent it from sounding like that is something you want to happen. I just think in the current volatile arena, everyone needs to be careful how they say almost anything. I'm not talking political correctness - I'm just talking about the fringe element (not all of Beck's followers, some of whom I know who would never condone harming anyone). I stated that I actually agree with the idea that if I want to overeat, it's MY business, not big brother's. Your response, Taskr would seem to imply that I meant that even I would go out killing fat people when I myself AM fat!! Hello?
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@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
17 Sep 10
This is why I don't like Glenn Beck, he's a purist! He only sees American and the World through his own eyes, and if it isn't to his liking, he will say something about it when he shouldn't. I understand that America is a country of free speech, but he takes it too far.
Some people can't help what and who they are. He has no idea what it is like to be a big person. I once weighed 220 lbs, and today I weight 165 lbs, but it has been a battle for me. It wasn't easy. With all of the shows and commercials out there about food, it is so easy to fall into that temptation. Now, can you imagine a person who bigger than 220 lbs, and they have low self-esteem, and they want to lose weight, but they don't know how? They don't have any incentive, and they are always tempted by food. Obesity is no joke, it is serious, and people do die from obesity.
My advice is that people need education on obesity, how to prevent it, and how to lose weight if you are over weight. Glenn Beck isn't encouraging people to lose weight, he ridiculing them, and they are already being ridiculed enough.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
20 Sep 10
I know that he was mostly referring to people who weigh 400 to 800 lbs, but there are many people who listen to his show, and many of those people are considered over-weight and obese. The majority of the men and women in this country are over-weight and obese, and he should know that by saying that, he is certainly going to offend many of listeners.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Just to be clear rogue, he's not talking about anyone who weighs 220 lbs. Annie's source edited the transcript to make it look that way, but here's what he really said.
"I mean the people who like their skin grows into the couch and then, you know, they call the fire department and they cut them out of the wall and then they have to bring in the truck and then they take them to the hospital?"
Now typically, people at that point weigh 400 to 800 lbs. and you don't get to that weight quickly or easily.
Now while his words may have been insensitive, his point was to say that these people have the RIGHT to be fat if they want. They have the right to CHOOSE to eat food that will eventually kill them.
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
17 Sep 10
All I can really say is I really hope they are running in 2012 like I read on here because well Obama or even a third party candidate will have a real easy time winning as these two will completely destroy themselves from the beginning. They will show their true colors as being the Extremist that America really has never enjoyed or liked. When it really comes down to it we are all centrist of some form but anyway. I really hope they take the Republicans out of ever being able to run ever again at least until these "Christian" who are trying so hard to violate the first amendment to our constitution (ie pushing their faith into the legal and moral code of the United States). From ever winning an election as for Becks little comment. He is just angry because those are the people who will really vote for him and the 90,000 that showed up where the healthy members of his fan base :) and well I think we all know he is a NUT case from the second he started his show.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
19 Sep 10
Well Palin might run, but that's highly unlikely and even if she did, she'd almost definitely lose. Beck has never showed any interest in running. He's a fat mouth like Limbaugh. They both talk a good game, but really want nothing to do with being an actual politician because it's far easier to mouth off about a job you'll never do.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Who are "they"? Beck isn't a politician and hasn't run for any office. He's not even a republican and consistently criticizes members of both parties. He's basically a libertarian, but then I've seen him go after libertarians as well so I'm really not sure who the "they" are that you are referring to.
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
18 Sep 10
Palin beck are the they I am refering to as it is rumored that these two people are going to be running together in 2012 if Palin wins the primary I am guessing or they may run as independents that would be interesting.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Just when I think that man can't get any stupider...he does. But, to answer your question, of COURSE she won't! He's on her team so it's okey dokey...in poor taste but we won't hear those words outta her mouth either.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
17 Sep 10
...Hi there annie, Remember the Democratic Representative from Florida, who was criticized terribly for standing on the House floor with a chart outlining the Republican's Health Care Plan, which he said was basically: Don't Get Sick, But if You Get Sick, You Had Better Die! This is the same mentality and the same crowd. They could care less about about sick people, fat people, and certainly not poor people.
Sad state of affairs but very revealing. Also looking at Beck's physique how many fat people do you think there are in his family? Probably disowns them like Newt does his sister. What a crowd! Take care.
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@bdugas (3578)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Damn haven't seen him lately, but didn't think he was the skinny person he appears to think he is. Any of them that makes remarks that someone should die because of their weight or whatever isn't the smartest branch on the tree, some will say anything that will get them the attention that they are after.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
20 Sep 10
I won't talk about how the transcript was edited... as two others have already pointed that out. I won't talk about how you should get your Glenn Beck from actual Glen Beck, rather than what left wing blogs tell other left wing blogs about Beck... as I have already said this numerous times in the past.
To my point though. So what? It is the same thing I say to other smokers (though I am a smoker myself). Is it so wrong to point out that people should not only have the freedom to do what they want to their own bodies but that theyt also must accept the consequences for those actions?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
20 Sep 10
I'm not sure how the transcript was edited, and it certainly wasn't pertinent to the discussion if it was. I DID get this "from actual Beck"; after having seen clips on other shows I caught it on reruns. I don't think I missed much, if any, of his rant.
Anyway, I'm also a smoker and I agree with what you write. We certainly DO have the right to smoke but we should accept the consequences. The same goes for eating tons of food that's bad for you. The thing is, to ACCEPT the consequences, one must be AWARE of them and when it comes to eating right, one has to know if they're not. Therefore, while I'd never be in favor of making smoking illegal or banning somebody's idea of unhealthy foods and beverages I have no problem with information being made available about them.
Once more, I must repeat, I don't CARE about the context of what Beck was saying. Unless someone can "prove" to me he didn't say those five words - which can't be proven since he DID say them - he was still wrong!
I thought you didn't believe in the whole "left and right" concept, X?
Annie
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Wow. All it took for "fat" people to become left-protected victims was for Glenn Beck to attack them.
Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Huh??? I'd be "protecting" any group of people about whom someone crudely made such a remark, for what it's worth. Do YOU think it was an appropriate thing to say for someone who portends to want to "bring God back to America" and "restore honor"? I don't and that's why I felt compelled to leapfrog over several other responses to addres your post.
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
17 Sep 10
The funny thing is, if you look at the real transcript and not the blog-edited version, you'd see he wasn't even attacking them. He was defending their right to eat burgers and fries even if it killed them. Annie was just eager to believe what she read on a blog without checking the facts.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
17 Sep 10
Appropriate? Probably not. But my particular feelings? Depends. I haven't heard it. I only read it per your post.
But I've been pretty clear about where I stand on Beck.
I just find it amusing that Beck insulting "fat" people finally gets people on the side of "fat" people. Whereas when the fast food nazis and their ilk pile it on "fat" people about needing to be controlled, it's usually mumsville.
@Sidoghosh (174)
• India
17 Sep 10
May be glen is afraid of Fat people..I am pretty sure He usually have nightmares of FAT people bouncing on his back
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@jb78000 (15139)
•
17 Sep 10
whatever he actually said, and there seems to be some debate on the matter but i am not going to go and look at the whole transcript, i think we can all agree on two things. one - beck is racking it in trying to be outrageous and two - he isn't nearly as funny or insightful as he thinks he is.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
17 Sep 10
I am not an American but I am a big fan of Glenn Beck. I watch him when I get the chance to watch TV. I find him intelligent and courageous enough to say what he wants to say. I know a lot of Americans hate him, but the world would be one boring place without him and O'Reilly. I love them both!
@sunilpaul (173)
• India
17 Sep 10
Picture this...I am in a beautiful Volvo bus and this guy besides my seat is so obese that he is occupying 150% of the space...do you want me to love him??? after that incident I have decided to book "2" tickets for myself to avoid these horrible obese people...and "if" they die because of what they are...they better die early to end the misery of of others...as harsh as it may sound..I think obesity is something that can be controlled by the people who suffer of it...if they are not...it's an addiction that creates havoc for the other people...Hog hog and hog...that what these people ever do...
@iowachap (100)
• United States
17 Sep 10
You are missing the point entirely, he is telling folks that the US government is going to control what foods people eat and drink. They are already doing it now with kids in schools. But now they are going to be in control of health care, they are going to begin controlling what people eat. Where like him, I could care less what people eat or do with their personal lives, that is what he is saying, that he does not care if those people eat frys n shakes until they die. Let em.. that is their right, it is not the governments job to tell us what we can or can not eat.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
19 Sep 10
So, YOU tell me, Taskr. How ARE they going to control what food we eat? For someone who is so incensed because he thinks I didn't read the whole transcript, you sure have no problem with responding to a post you apparently didn't read entirely.
It doesn't matter what else he said; "I say let them die" was a horrible thing for someone to say, especially someone who likes to talk so much about God.
Annie