Chrstine O'Donnell and Mice with Human Brains...
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
September 16, 2010 11:09pm CST
The following is from the transcript of the "O'Reilly Factor" from November 15, 2007:
O'DONNELL: They are — they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. So they're already into this experiment.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311946,00.html
I guess this is what frightens her about stem cell research - mice with human brains.
Any thoughts?
Annie
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@jerzgirl (9327)
• United States
17 Sep 10
I just saw this tonight. I even posted it on FB with the question "is this really the kind of people we want running this country?" I then urged people to get out and vote and keep these whackos out of DC!!
How about her refusing to debate her opponents unless she gets to know what questions will be asked. Hello? That's not a debate, you idiot!!
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Sep 10
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/
"In January, an informal ethics committee at Stanford University endorsed a proposal to create mice with brains nearly completely made of human brain cells. Stem cell scientist Irving Weissman said his experiment could provide unparalleled insight into how the human brain develops and how degenerative brain diseases like Parkinson’s progress."
@artistry (4151)
• United States
17 Sep 10
....Hi there annie, I say let those that are always looking for verification of things said ask Ms O'Donnell to supply proof about the human brnins and mice. Plain and simple. It's interesting how accepting people are whem someone they like says it and when others say something they want chapter and verse immediately. Scienticfic research into using stem cells in contributing to reversal of diseases is something that should continue to be explored but Ms O'Donnell wants to end it. The adultery charge through self-pleasuring to coin a phrase is the most ludicrous of almost anything I have heard attributed to her. Real forward thinking she is and definitey "on to" something, just ask Karl Rove "o). Cheers.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
17 Sep 10
This is ridicules banter from the anti-science wing of the Republican party. They don't trust science, they fear science, and they don't understand science. Everything from teaching intelligent design in school, global warming is a myth, and opposing stem cell research is due to this. Putting a stem cell in a mouse is not the same thing as having mice with fully functional human brains. There is no possible way that this could possible even happen. Think about it folks, a mouse's skull is not big enough for a fully functional human brain. Though think about the scientific possibilities if scientist could come up with a mouse with a fully functional human brain?
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
17 Sep 10
But the deal is this whole thing is impossible and that is kind of what I mean. The scientist would have to do something that is currently impossible due to the size of a human brain in comparison to the mouse's skull, heck in comparison to the mouse's whole body.
@jb78000 (15139)
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17 Sep 10
of course it is. and yes the comment, although based on something the woman misrembered (perhaps), does show exactly how good her understanding of anything scientific is. i don't think it is necessary to have a scientific background in order to decide or comment on scientific ethical issues but it would help to have an understanding at least as good as that of your average 8 year old.
@jb78000 (15139)
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17 Sep 10
there wouldn't be any scientific possibilities. you can debate about the ethics of experimenting on animals but a mouse with a fully functional human brain would be in all important respects a human and scientists wouldn't be able to do experiments on it they couldn't already do on volunteers.
@coffeeshot (3783)
• Australia
17 Sep 10
I think humans have become too intelligent for their own good. This is clearly wrong and unnecessary. Not only are animals being tortured and abused and neglected in research labs, this is also messing with nature. We should use our intelligence for more important things like solving the global warming crisis and helping others in need. This is just ridiculous.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Sep 10
I think the most interesting aspect of this is just how much research the left is doing to try to discredit O'Donnell, even going so far as to red through old transcripts of Bill O'Reilly's show (they must have to take tranquilizers to get through it without their brains exploding). But I guess they missed this little report on MSNBC back in 2005:
"Mice with human brains
In January, an informal ethics committee at Stanford University endorsed a proposal to create mice with brains nearly completely made of human brain cells. Stem cell scientist Irving Weissman said his experiment could provide unparalleled insight into how the human brain develops and how degenerative brain diseases like Parkinson’s progress.
Stanford law professor Hank Greely, who chaired the ethics committee, said the board was satisfied that the size and shape of the mouse brain would prevent the human cells from creating any traits of humanity. Just in case, Greely said, the committee recommended closely monitoring the mice’s behavior and immediately killing any that display human-like behavior.
The Academies’ report recommends that each institution involved in stem cell research create a formal, standing committee to specifically oversee the work, including experiments that mix human and animal cells.
Weissman, who has already created mice with 1 percent human brain cells, said he has no immediate plans to make mostly human mouse brains, but wanted to get ethical clearance in any case. A formal Stanford committee that oversees research at the university would also need to authorize the experiment."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Sep 10
I agree that she isn't spot on as far as the actual experiments are concerned, but she's caught the spirit of the thing since the fellow did say he wanted to create a mouse with a brain "nearly completely made of human brain cells".
In any case, I think she's a bit more informed on the issue than those who hold her in derision for her statement, those who believe it's wild and wacky and without any basis in reality. Would you not agree?
@jb78000 (15139)
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17 Sep 10
although this is an extremely dodgy area - any human brain cells in laboratory animals brings up the issue of where human begins and where mouse ends and i do not agree with what the ethics committee here decided - this is not what she said. there are no laboratory mice with 'fully functioning human brains'.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
18 Sep 10
I really hope this woman doesn't worm her way into any political office. I wouldn't vote her into my dog warden office. She seems a little unstable. Here annie check this out since I know how much you love this woman and want her to be your Rep. LOL
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/18/christine-odonnell-on-politically-incorrect-i-dabbled-into/?icid=main|main|dl1|sec3_lnk2|171377
@leogeljauculan73 (25)
• Philippines
17 Sep 10
that sounds interesting to talk with. if that experiment will be successful i guess the outcome of that is that a mice will not eat any dirty food around him. or maybe there comes a new breed of species which is a mutation of mice and human brain which is for me frightening.