New Update... we're moving

United States
October 7, 2010 8:31am CST
Earlier this year my MIL passed away, and shortly there after FIL offered to let us move in with him, mostly because he needs help affording his bills, needs help with household chores, and shouldn't really be left alone at his age (75ish). We went back and forth a lot on the decision to make this move. On one hand, we're currently living in a trailer park which we hate. Not just the lack of space and lack of yard for my kids.. but also the people around here are rude and inconsiderate and loud! Plus our trailer has a lot of problems, the drain isn't hooked up and leaks under the house.. there's a hole in the floor by the water heater that the maintenance men put there and never fixed.. my cupboards were not completely installed when we moved in and neither was the sink.. I could go on and on. All these problems were here when we moved in and should have been the park's responsiblity to fix, and we can't really afford to get them done. We're barely affording all our bills as it is.. which is another reason why this move would work out well for us, as FIL only wants us to pay his power bill and whatever extra bills we choose to have (internet, car insurance, cell phones.. etc). Then of course there are some downsides to the move as well. First and foremost having to share our space with someone else.. and it being HIS house not ours.. that may cause a lot of awkwardness at first, especially for me. The other, bigger issue is that FIL can be stubborn, controling, and a downright jerk sometimes.. especially when it comes to HIS stuff. I was hoping that another option would come along.. such as an affordable apartment we could move into on our own.. but that isn't happening, finding a place cheaper than we currently have is basically impossible unless we want to put up with bigger issues. However, some things have happened recently that have forced our decision. First off, 2 of my cats died and they forced us to get rid of our 3rd. The first cat to die was 9 years old, and had mostly been an outdoor cat, and acted like he was a lot older than he was. I figure that was probably natural causes.. he just died in his sleep one day. The second cat to die however was only 7, and he didn't just die. We found him outside not moving and couldn't get him to eat or drink. I made him an appointment with the vet, but the day of the appointment he started having seizures and died. Now that wasn't natural.. either he got into something around here, or somebody put something out on purpose, I'll never know which. Not too long after that they told me my 3rd cat was looking sick and I have to get rid of him. I told them he's not sick, he's always looked mangy. He lost all his fur during summer months due to fleas, and flea medication didn't help, and yes he had seen a vet about it. Well they gave me no option, so I had to send the cat to FIL's house. More recently they've been giving me a problem with our rent payments. Now we've lived here a year and a half, and they know our situation.. most people in the park have the same situation we do. At first they told us if we were late on rent just let them know and they're fine with it because they know we will pay and not go more than a week or so late. We unfortunately got in the habit of paying exactly a week late every month, and they were always fine with that and even expected it and never charged us late fees and always told us "Don't worry about it, we understand". Now all of a sudden they're charging the late fees. Then 2 days ago they came to my door telling me they can't tolerate it anymore.. just out of the blue. I said ok, I'll have it on Friday and next month we'll have it on the first. No problem. Understandable. The very next day was a letter on the door saying the exact same thing, half typed "Rent is expected on the first" the other half hand written "THIS IS NOT TOLERABLE". Ok.. I get it, rent is supposed to be paid on the first... and coming to my door to let me know that you won't accept it late anymore is fine.. but the note on top of that which came across rather rude was just overkill and actually made me angry. I mean, I'm not harassing them about all the stuff they never fixed, or all the other problems, so why are they harassing me after I already told them I understand. Then I read through my lease last night and found all sorts of rules everyone in the park is breaking and I'm wondering why they aren't being harassed and hounded. To top it all off, now they want us to paint our entire trailer and shed.. everyone has to paint their homes white so the whole park matches. I don't have the time or money for that! So, we're moving in with FIL by the end of the month. He's got a 4 bedroom house with a big yard, still in the same school district and actually a little closer to everything. My oldest will be allowed to ride his bike to his best friend's house, where as where we are now on a busy highway I never let the kids out and they don't even keep their bikes here.. they keep their bikes at FIL's house because they can't ride them here. It will be much better for the kids, and better for our finances. I don't know yet about FIL's attitude... he's been seeming better lately as far as his stubbornness and controlling go.. but that could change when we move in, I hope not. Either way.. there are definite positives.. and only possible negatives. Does this sound like a smart move? What would you do in my situation?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
10 Oct 10
I just have to mention something about the park suddenly sending you late notices and fees and knocking on your door. I know that sounds bizarre but maybe they HAVE to in order to have a paper trail. Yes, they probably KNOW that you're going to be a little late, they likely have a lot of people who are. I worked for a trailer park for awhile and so many of the people were on disability and SSI, and they had to get their checks before they could afford to pay their rent. Anyway, I was told by the company management corporate office that after the 1st, I HAD to mail letters to anybody who had not paid, and I also had to walk around the park and post letters on the doors, or hand deliver them if the people were home. I felt this was atrocious and lousy, and if you looked at the rent for the past year, x person from space 234 ALWAYS paid, every month, but ALWAYS on the 4th, because they didn't get their check until the 3rd. Well, no dice, I was still expected to mail the letter to space 234 and then walk to their unit/space and knock on the door, and if they were home, deliver the letter that said their rent was due and payable immediately and that if they did not remit payment by the 15th or make other arrangements, we could begin eviction proceedings within 15 days after that. I never evicted anybody because everybody always paid when they got their checks, which ranged from the 30th or 31st to around the 8th. I still had to mail and deliver the stupid letters though. I know most of them went right in the trash, who can blame them? What a waste of paper and my time, I had to print out the stupid things!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
10 Oct 10
I just wanted to point out that you shouldn't take it personally, even the handwritten stuff. Don't let it bug you, it's stupid, and yes I see you have plenty of reasons to leave, but make sure you leave on your terms and nobody elses. I also think it will be better moving in to FIL's house but it might be a wise idea to have your 'lease agreement' in writing and notarized. Why you ask? Because it looks like you have had trouble with him in the past, and this IS his home, even if you pay at least half of the costs of running it, you know he will pull that point on you at least once while you live there. You will need to be proactive and have an answer already for any stupid thing that he tries to dig into your lives about, or control, or whatever. It might also be a good idea to have him sign the agreement after it has been written up, and if at any time, he violates it, let him know. If he continually violates parts of your agreement, I think you should be able to be relieved of a bill that you agreed to pay, and then you can put that money towards you 'get out' fund lol. For instance, he promises not to complain about you reorganzing or getting rid of broken things. Say he has a fit about something AFTER he signed the lease agreement. Let him know you will subtract $20 off what you'd pay for the phone bill for that month. If he does it again, another $20. Now that may not work for you but it is what I would do were I to have any roommates, family or not, living in my home. I would want them to mind their own business, I would mind my own business, but they'd have to honor the agreement to the letter or I would not put up with it. Basically I'd expect someone to buy their own food and cook for themselves and clean up for themselves, EVERYTHING. Do their own laundry, clean their bathroom, clean up anything they tracked in or messed up, kept all their stuff in their own room and shut the door if it was a giant mess etc. Either way, I'd have something in place to prevent them from arguing with me or violating anything in the agreement BEFORE anything occurred.
• United States
11 Oct 10
That won't fly with my FIL.. he likes to think he sets the rules, not us. We have to make compromises for each other. Most things he's okay with, he's bent to our needs, desires, wants. He's getting a dumpster and purging his house of all the crud. The only things he won't budge on is the furniture in the living room and dining room, except the broken dining room table. Hubby is okay with that.. I'm not completely but hubby keeps pointing out the other things FIL is GIVING to us.. like the downstairs bedroom.. he wanted it for himself, we asked to give it to the boys so the 2 and 4 year old don't have to go up and down the dangerous stairs.. he gave it to us. He's allowing us to turn the mudroom into a pantry or anything else we want. Mostly he's just sentimental about a few THINGS that belonged to my MIL.. he's not ready to let go of her yet. If all else fails.. we can move out with our taxes in February.
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• United States
10 Oct 10
Yes I understand they have to and it's rules and all... but the typed notice was one thing.. the hand written in big bold letters was overkill as if they're upset that we haven't paid yet. I know I'm not the only one in this boat. But not having rent on time is not the only issue, as I mentioned. It's the people who live around here, the idiot who parks at the end of my driveway while waiting for the bus in the morning and won't move if I try to leave before the bus gets here. The jerk next door who plays his music so loud I can't hear my TV. The idiots down the road who play with their dirt bikes and atv's until 3 in the morning. On top of the lack of space, lack of yard, lack of my kids being able to play outside. We're all miserable!
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@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
7 Oct 10
I would be out of that trailer park so fast their heads would spin. I would do everything I could to make it work with the FIL including address any problems when they were small, face to face with him, without being personal about it. It is going to be sooooo much better for your children and your family. The way you talk, your home is totally out of code and not a healthy or happy place to live. Your second cat could have had a kidney blockage, they come on really fast and can cause those symptoms. I know, I had to have a kitty put to sleep cause I could not afford $100 per day to treat it when it happened, and it came on soooo suddenly. It will help your father in law and it will help you. Your kids will get to learn how to live in a multi generation home and will have a chance to know and love him and he them. You should not have to live where you are afraid to have a normal life.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
8 Oct 10
I am really excited for you. I know as soon as I make a plan I want to be able to do it immediately.
• United States
7 Oct 10
That could have been the problem with my cat.. I'll never know. I did notice he wasn't peeing.. but he wasn't eating or drinking either. I thought maybe his kidneys had shut down.. but it's possible that was from a poison he'd gotten into or had been given. I'll never know. It's true that could have happened anywhere.. but I'm already so upset with this trailer park that it seems natural and easy to place blame there. Also this place is infested with fleas.. the whole dang park! I don't even have a cat anymore.. and we were flea free for a few weeks, now all of a sudden I see them again.. we must be bringing them in from outside. I literally could go on forever with my complaints about this place! The guy next door plays his music so loud I can hear it over my own TV.. on and on and on. I hope to be out of here by the end of the month. We have a few things we have to do at FIL's to make it ready for us... hopefully we can get it done quickly. I'm to the point I don't even want to have to pay this month's rent tomorrow.. I just want to leave!
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• United States
8 Oct 10
I'm not completly excited yet... still very apprehensive. I know it's best for the kids and our finances and many other things.. but the possible negative side effects have me nervous about it all... however I won't know about these negative aspects forsure until we've made the move.
• India
8 Oct 10
Yes, I know of your apprehensions from your earlier mail on the same topic and I had in fact, echoed your fears, mostly about losing your independence and being dependent on your FIL for the very roof over your head!!! But now things seem to have gone from bad to worse at the park, while on the other hand, your FIL seems to have softened up a bit. You can of course give the situation a try as you have no viable options at the moment and other things (kids safety, school) are fitting in nicely too… whether it would be ultimately a smart move or not, only the future can tell but as of now, yes…it seems the only and best option for you. Once you move in and stay together under the same roof and get to know each other better, maybe your FIL and you all can come to some understanding about the very basic running of the house and other daily matters. The kids too can have a mellowing effect on him (apart from his old age of course LOL)…all in all, I wish the best for you and your family.
• United States
8 Oct 10
As I've said in a few other responses.. we have an idea of what it may take to curb FIL's anger.. he mostly got angry when we didn't pay rent.. so if we keep our bills paid we may keep him happy. We're also planning on turning his dining room into a second living room so he can have his relaxation space while the kids have their own living room for games and cartoons. Also, if it doesn't work out, we can use our tax returns in February to find our own place.
@AmbiePam (93889)
• United States
11 Oct 10
I think you are doing the best possible thing for your family. I think if anyone can make it work, and work well, it would be you. You ask what would we do if we were in your situation? If I were in your situation I would be on anti-depressants or anti-anxiety medicine. (Like I'm not already.)
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
14 Oct 10
I agree with AmbiePam. I would be in the loony bin if I were in your situation. I would do ANYTHING I could, including not-nice things, illegal things, and otherwise to not do this, but I don't do compromises when the benefit doesn't exceed the sacrifices I had to make lol.
• United States
11 Oct 10
I think you give me more credit than I give myself. I may not be on medication.. though I could probably use some anti anxiety pills right now. I'm a freakin nervous wreck over all this.. especially since yesterday when I got in there and saw just how much cleaning is actually necessary!
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
10 Oct 10
Wow! I missed the whole first part of the story! Now I totally understand and think you are making the best decision, even though I know all about FIL! No matter how difficult he is, I think you and hubby can handle him this time. Now that MIL is gone it is him alone and I think he will be happy for the company and enjoy having the kids around. A trailer park like you're describing is no place for a nice family like yours. The kids need a yard to play in like they use to. Things will definitely be better. Sorry I missed this one, but thanks for catching me up!
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
7 Oct 10
Were I in your position I would do exactly what you did. I would offer for you to listen to the colors to personality training that I offer at mentoring for free, this past saturdays was a great one...http://mffaudios.com/audios/2010-10-02-9PM.htm I offer this, because it really can help you to understand others better, and when you understand people better, you can relate to them easier. I have never met your FIL, but from what you relate, I would say he is RED personality, and well, if you take the time (35min) to listen you could learn one or two really cool things to help you out. Sincerely and With Appreciation.
• United States
7 Oct 10
Thanks.. I think I'm a red myself, which is why FIL and I do not get along too well in large doses.. and I don't do well adjusting to other's personalities. But I have learned a few things, grown a bit since last time, and have a back up plan for when things go bad. So who knows, it may work better this time.
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• United States
7 Oct 10
Oh..OK.. well, aside from money, FIL are a lot alike. I'm stubborn and set in my ways. I'm a female and I'm a Taurus and those 2 combined make for someone you don't want to argue with! I like it my way or the highway and I won't give in or compromise unless I want to.
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@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
7 Oct 10
Time reveals all answers, and you may be a red at that. But, I don't really think so, maybe Red is a close second in your life, but you are not near as money focused as a Red normally is, at least not from my interpretations of your discussions, I could very easily be wrong, I frequently am. It is a great thing to learn, and how to manipulate people, based on the way they think. Or, how to better understand people, so you can relate to, and help them better. It is really the same thing just from a different angle. Sincerely and With Appreciation.
@4mymak (1793)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
hi kats.. u'd probably received tons of responses by now.. but i see - u moving in with your FIL - as a 'win-win' situation.. your FIL needs the company + someone to care for some of the housebills and he has the extra space (lots of it.. from your story), AND your family need a better place to stay - u did mention that his place is 'better' in many ways.. so.. why not.. he is your FIL anyway.. and even how stubborn and controlling he may be.. i am sure he has a 'soft spot' somewhere for his son + you + his grandchildren.. if not,.. he wouldnt have asked you guys to move in with him.. (despite the fact that he wants u to share the bills..) anyway... you are already facing some difficulties with the park management - surely, your FIL wouldnt be as bad or worse than them.. if it was me.. i'd move in with him.. at least i know i am moving my kidz to a better environment.. i think i can survive getting use to your FIL.. GOOD LUCK !!! *maybe i'd be fun... like the sitcom 'Everybody Loves Raymond'...
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
7 Oct 10
YOu are caught between a rock and a hard place....but just remember that everytime a door closes another one opens to a new opportunity....I think things will be okay...just remember to be a bit tolerant of him....he's probably set in his ways. But you can gently nudge him into being a bit more compromising if you use patience....hopefully! Good luck honey....I think getting out of the trailer park will be a good move. We'll all keep our fingers crossed for you!
• United States
8 Oct 10
I do believe things happen for a reason... so I believe this is a sign that the move is something we are supposed to make, whatever the outcome.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Oct 10
Of course, I'd be really leery of the FIL situation given how he's behaved in the past, but hopefully your moving away from him before got the message across that you wouldn't put up with that. As for the house vs the trailer situation, of course the house is preferable, the neighborhood is preferable, so I really hope it works out. And yeah, that was rude of your landlord. I guess this has been brewing for a while, and now they have suddenly exploded. It would have been better if they had just said something earlier, but that's how people are sometimes. They avoid confrontations, thinking it will be OK to do so, but then they stew and brew about it until KABOOM.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
7 Oct 10
i CERTAINLY HOPE IT WILL BE A GOOD MOVE FOR EVERYONE CONCERNED. I would be thrilled to get out of that trailer & all that goes on in the park. I think it will help y'all to save some money which is almost impossible to do nowadays with yhe economy like it is. Plus if ur fil will just behave himself it will keep him from being alone etc. It will be great for your kids to have a grandparent around, a yard & more space to. I would have a long talk w/him & just tell him like it is. All of u are going to have to make changes. GOOD LUCK!!!!
• United States
7 Oct 10
Yep.. those are all the positives.. hopefully FIL sees them too. If it doesn't work out we can move out with our taxes in February.
@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
7 Oct 10
Sounds like it would be a good solution for you, BUT knowing how he has been in the past, I would tell him that it will be a temporary thing. Maybe set a limit of a year or something. I think a clear end to the situation will help you tolerate his behavior ("We'll only be hear a year, we'll only be here a year"lol)
• United States
7 Oct 10
Yes, hubby and I have said that if things don't work out, we'll use our taxes in the Spring to find our own place. We won't tell FIL that though.. I don't want him to act more negatively if he feels we're only there short term when he's got his mind set on us being there forever (till he's gone then having the house for ourselves).
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
7 Oct 10
I think that you have weighed up the positives and negatives in a realistic manner and that you are doing the right thing. He s obviously lonely and you will have more space for the children. As long as you and your husband have your own space where you can be together then it should be o.k. I think that you have been treated very shabbily and rudely by your landlord. Really horrible and I strongly suspect that your cat was poisoned. The space is an important issue as the kids need space too. Yes, he may try to be controlling but you can quietly do things your way and not respond if he is being mean. This may not be forever but id it will take some of th pressure off you and your husband then it is worth it. You are ging to need some agreed upon house rules between you send your FIL though - but it can work out and I wish you luck and happiness. Blessings
• United States
7 Oct 10
Thanks.. I think overall it will be better too. And we've agreed that if it doesn't work out we'll use our tax money in the Spring to find our own place... so it certainly isn't forever.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
11 Oct 10
Well, there are most definitely going to be a lot of adjustments that you and your family are going to have to make with the move that you are making. However, I really think that in the long run the decision that you and your husband have made is the best decision that you possibly can make for your family. Though at first it is going to be difficult for the family, I think in the long run everyone is going to be far happier.