The Marriage is over when the wife says it's over?

Sometimes it Is mutual but most of the time it is one Wanting to leave and the other Trying to get them to stay.

i agree with you,we ladies are just emotional and sensitive that's why we can sometimes think of giving up..but on the other hand,women are more understanding and a fighter..

Wow. Two seeing the world from the same point of view? In a marriage? To me this seems strange. But then again I can understand this view for a lover , not a spouse. I see marriage as a tug of war of wills.The stronger one " wins".

No The View is a good show . It may not be for you but it is a good show. I didn't see this as a stereotypical , just true in most cases. For some reason most women want to marry. And when married it turns out they are the ones trying to make it work. I think it is great that these days many women just walk away when it doesn't work. about 40 years ago they stayed and stayed. I think it is great whn Either party can free the other by wanting a divorce.

Why does a show Have to be "intelligent" to be good? Not for me. I do find it entertaining and worth while . Many a post I start is from a statement I hear on the View.so to me it is Very rewarding , if you know what I mean1 If you are saying I'm a female male chauvinist because I see that some women Want to trap their men in marriage then All I can say is Thank you.

I'm proud to be on the men's side of this battle of the sexes. I Never say All women because , obviously I Am an expection. It may seem ignorant to you but I do believe men are better at some things and women are better at others But if I were given a choice , I rather be one of the guys than the girls . Always have. Stupidity can Make a show these days. Do I take what is said on the View as Gospel? No but I do like watching.

" Scarred ties of marriage"? Great phrase! It describes it perfectly.I assume many wives think they can change their husbands. "Once we get married he'll......" But it rarely happens! And then they get angry and resentment sets in. And then they shut down. It is sad. this is why I will never marry. I See my guy as a guy , not a husband! I love him faults and all. Plus I don't want to have to make him Into a husband. What we have will die.

Well if he has a different view , he does respect mine. I always thought that I would fall in love with a guy who Insisted he marry me. And Then I would leave. I rather break his heart in the beginning and let him go get married if that's what he Needs to do than break down and marry him and then make his life a living hell!

You have entirely different opinion about marriage and your guy.

He either assumes his wife is As happy as he is or he doesn't even think about it at all.

Or is in total denial that it can't be fixed.

I think she is fed up. She is tired of trying to make it work , when it won't. This is a guess. I am not a wife nor will I ever will be!

I have now two different theories. One , I must have been either a unhappy wife Or A very happy mistress in a previous life. All these feelings about marriage I felt when I was 13! Back then I didn't have the vocabulary to express it. I see marriage as an arrangement that has nothing to do with love. Doesn't that sound like a aristocratic marriage of the 18th century? My second theory? I see marriage as a trap.And if I try to mix it with love, the love would die.It's me. I feel to be a wife , I would Have to change Everything about myself. Instead of being open , I would shut down. And since I don't Want to be there , I would lash out. And war begun. By age 13, I Knew if I were to marry I should marry a man I hated. But now? I believe indifference is worse. My attitude would Have to be , I don't care what you do. have you seen the movie Revolutionary Road? This is a minor spoiler. The wife tells her husband , she doesn't care anymore. And that's what I would make happen. I would see any man who wanted to marry me as a foe. He doesn't want me to be happy,he just wants to make me a wife. Thankfully my guy Understands and we will never marry. so I'm free to be open and loving Always!

Can you blame them? If you were comfortable wouldn't you Want to remain with the Status quo. What is worse is the guy either truly doesn't know or didn't hear her when she says she isn't happy. That's why it is a great shock when she leaves. am I right? This is a huge guess. I never will marry. I don't want to make my man into a husband.

No, expected. A person can do so much before they get fed up.

I can't wait! I'm glad she got out.

No. it only takes one partner withdrawing and the union weakens and then breaks. Many a couple are married but they aren't a real union. one of them is just going through the motions.

I disagree. There are many marriages where both don't love each other anymore but they are Still together. And there are divorced couples who love each other madly. i think if one , wife or husband, has given up or has shut down , the marriage is over. The other can try with all their might but it won't work.

A marriage can be over without a divorce. In my culture either spouse can legally end the divorce.

I agree. A man will find another so he can remain " happily married" and I don't blame them.But these days there are women who will find someone else too. It's all equal now.

I must be the Only woman who says Exactly what I mean Even when I'm angry! You are among many who say the wife doesn't mean what she says when she is angry. I Know if Anyone doubted my word when I'm angry , I wouldn't be with them nor speak to them so it Truly would be over.