Oldies Vs Newbies
By zandi458
@zandi458 (28102)
Malaysia
October 11, 2010 1:36pm CST
Mylot has a good composition of the oldies and newbies and these two groups of mylotters have been co-existing happily here. Though there were high rate of members turnover throughout the years but there is no short supply of newcomers joining mylot everyday. Mylot is growing in strength from day to day.
There are still a handful of oldies who were the first breed of mylotters still plying their trade here via discussions and their loyalty with this site is beyond compare. Though we have been here for years, we never feel superior in anywhere and are at all times willing to lend our support to all newbies who need our help. Unfortunately, some newbies think that we are arrogant and when told that they have infringed the guidelines they feel intimidated. This is not how it should be. In true sense of the word, newbies and oldies are no difference. We have been here longer we qualify to be called oldies though some are still young in age. Since we breath the same air in mylot, the inputs of both the oldies and newbies see no distinction. Don't think that the inflated figures besides our names make us more superior. No, we are no difference when it comes to creative writing. It is simply , you fare well you earn well. To all newbies we need you as much as you need us.
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19 responses
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 10
hi zandi well put and I do wish they did not think me arrogant for suggesting its best to read the information for yourself. I still do
not see how saying that makes me a badie in anyone's eyes. We are
all needed here and we all do help each other but i just feel that reading the info for yourself sort of imprints it on one's mind.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
We are duty bound as so called seniors here to tell newbies what is expected of them so they won't stepped into landmines as they journey here. Therefore reading the guidelines should always become their first priority. Well, no harm in listening to seasoned people here and newbies should not misconstrued the good advice given as bad.
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@sam8pro (376)
• India
11 Oct 10
:D .... i really really like you oldies man .... its so fun to read you guys's comments.... no seriously i am impressed by all of you ... seriously how much you guys will be knowing more than us makes me feel wooww .. but anyway .. i am planning to stay in mylot for a real long time :) !!!
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
11 Oct 10
Good discussion zandi, very well said as always.Hope your day is going good.
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@misalax (307)
• Ireland
11 Oct 10
Totally agree with you zandi. Actually I find myLot very balanced, as to in other discussion areas or sites there are oldies who really have serious issues with newbies vice versa. It is because some oldies have that superiority feeling while those newbies feel like any oldie is boasting or trying to embarass them or what. I hope the bond between the two always go smoothly. Happy myLotting :]
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
The differences should be trashed out otherwise the gap will always remain a barrier to divide and rule this place. Hope newbies can see that they are the new generations of mylot that will bring this site to a greater height when oldies are slowly dropping out.
@rog0322 (2829)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
20 Dec 10
Hi zandi,
Very well said there. I am new here and I find the discussions very interesting from citizens all over the world. At least I get a glimpse of the human nature and how they think and react to the issues around them. It also makes this wide world less wider when I see their sentiments are just like mine or the person next door.
Thanks for the thoughts, I fell inspired to be here.
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@elitess (5070)
• Ipswich, England
28 Nov 10
Hello Zandi.
I understand how us attracting their attention via frugal things like the guidelines might offend them, but if they stop for a while and listen, they will understand that our purpose in mylot is not to punish and persecute them, but rather to help them help us . If they end up creating permitted discussions that we answer and don't get deleted because of reasons of breaking the rules, we all win
And no, we are not arrogant, at least not all of us - there may be arrogant people here as well, but they reside among all categories - old, new members and their number of posts makes no difference - but let's not head the discussion toward the trolling subject
Anyway, we are always glad to see new people come here, with new problems, new ideas, new events.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
13 Oct 10
I agree with you entirely zandi. There should not be a division between old members and new ones. No one is superior to anybody else and all our experience can offer is advice. I hope newbies don’t feel intimidated by us ‘oldies’ ; I had not thought of that before...Personally it is never my intent to intimidate anyone so I sincerely hope that is not the case.
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@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
12 Oct 10
hi to you. you sound nice and i would wonder if someone will tell that you are arrogant.
i do not feel offended at all if an 'oldie' (it doesnt really sound comfortable to hear that word) will remind a newbie. it would, i guess, come to a point of misinterpretation (i guess this happens a lot here) of the words that are written. different people, different strokes,as they say. this could also end the newbie perceiving the words of an oldie as arrogant. it all depends on how the words are taken.
for me, i could take an advice but not an insult, or a reprimand. if that happens, i would surely be reactive to that. but as i said, it all boils down to being misinterpreted.
thank you for a nice post.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
hi bingskee, this is a general view and a summary of responses I got from my other discussions. Even using the word 'you' so many times in my responses create a misunderstanding and was only meant as a general reference not directed to any specific person. You are right, different people, different strokes.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
11 Oct 10
Zandi-
Great discussion! I know that I've not been here as long as some but I have learned from those who know the ropes. Those oldies but goodies have been here long enough to give sound advice that only helps one to earn more and add further to the great wealth of information. Though I can understand how some may have bruised egos because it is at times difficult to accept a critique of one's own compositions.
For myself one of the comment critiques I see most often with my own writing is that it is far too long. I tend to try to write lengthy responses that add to the conversation and provide a spring board for others if they wish to start a dialogue. All I can do is is continue to write in the fashion that I know works for me on Mylot and my own earnings schedule.
I personally feel no one should feel intimidated but if they do they should address it immediately. It could be an innocent misunderstanding and giving someone the chance to clarify can lead to a wonderful friendship. I suppose what the oldies have taught the newbies is that we need to let comments roll off our back.
Now, in terms of Newbies I so enjoy the new writings. It provides me with even more rich material to add my own commentaries to and that is the point of Mylot. We are not here to compete with one another but to converse and enrich each other in discussions. So long as there are people there will be an endless source of material to right upon.
Namaste-Anora
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
Newbies shouldn't feel inferior when tutored by the seniors. It is like an orientation for them and appreciation from the seniors who are always welcoming new people with new ideas to inject to this site. When the same crowd is seen here day in and day out, the atmosphere turns stuffy. Having the newbies around brings a relief when they create new interesting subjects for discussion.
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@kawalnarang (1095)
• Trinidad And Tobago
12 Oct 10
Always encouraging,Ain't?Wish there were many more like you
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
We were once newbies and know well the feelings of newbies who might feel threatened or outcast by the senior members. That is what I gather from the few responses from the newbies who blindly call the oldies arrogant. This is sort of unkind words thrown to the seniors who did not ask to be seniors but their long tenancy here automatically qualify them to be oldies.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
12 Oct 10
Hello Zandi,
Well, I can still respond to newbies and remind them of the rules when ever i feel i needed to in such situations. that's their problem if they are intimidated or annoyed simply because they didn't want advices coming from those who came here before. besides, they will do what ever they want anyways and get them SPANKED by the admin. then make a discussion again about how their post were deleted...
I agree, there's no difference, except that we knew better of the rules. if they don't like warnings, then so be it. we are only CONCERNED. just let them be.
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@GardenGerty (160708)
• United States
11 Oct 10
I really appreciate the newbies who come and bring new things to discuss. I start so few discussions if we had to depend on me we would die of boredom. I do not notice my numbers near so much as the others who look at my posts. To me the only thing I use that number for is to keep track of how much I have been here in a day. I really do not look at numbers on others either. Sometimes the newbies are the best part of my day.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
I can see the newbies are responsive. I see many newcomers responding to my discussions and that inspire me to post. Mylot is a new toy for newbies and their eagerness to join in the fray adds more fun and joy to those who are anxiously waiting for others to respond.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
11 Oct 10
Since I guess I have been here long enough to be called an oldie I want to tell you all that I love the newbies. They bring fresh ideas and great responses. As many of you know I often reward the newbies with a best response because they are new and they put some thought into their response. Especially when they don't agree with me. After all it's not much of a discussion when everyone agrees with you.
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@rosekiss (30414)
• Eugene, Oregon
11 Oct 10
What a good discussion, and you are right, that newbies are welcome here. I, too, have helped newbies when necessary, especially when I see a discussion that I know will be deleted. I politely tell that person, that they have violated the rules and they won't earn for their discussion since it will be deleted. Most of the tie, they are so thankful, that someone was willing to tell them what they were doing wrong, so that they won't do it again. There are others however, that don't really like to be told as they will continue to post discussions that get deleted. I just feel that as long as I can help someone I will, knowing full well, I won't earn for my response either. I have seen some that have eventually ready the guidelines and didn't violate them again, whereas others won't read them. It behooves all of us to be willing to help those that need it, as we were newbies once too, and got help when we needed it. Good luck to you and happy mylotting.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
12 Oct 10
The oldies are helpful lot and their help should be taken in good faith by those who are new to this site. I understand some refuse others to tutor them as they want to discover the site themselves. Just can help those who think they know better but at the end of they day they quit out of frustrations when their discussions get deleted.
@Memnon (2170)
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13 Oct 10
I think it's natural to feel irked when something has been removed should you accidentally infringe a guideline: the trick is not to get too annoyed- it's just the way the site works.
I'm also pleased to say that I can't recall any established member post anything that I would consider appearing as superior.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
14 Oct 10
We just can't please everybody. What might interest one might not interest the others. So to be accepted to be in this community we just have to glide along with the majority and share the fun that this site offers. A platform for socializing and sharing knowledge, views and maybe some juicy gossips around the world.