Rating the Person "Just because you didn't agree to him/her"
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
Philippines
October 16, 2010 2:02am CST
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[b]What if I disagree with someone? Should I give that post a negative rating?
* Absolutely not! In fact, if you disagree with a post, but still feel it positively contributes to the discussion, you should rate it positively. Rating quality content negatively will hurt your ratings overall. Remember differing opinions and viewpoints tend to make for the most interesting discussions.[/b]
I don't know about the Newbies who just got here now or few days,weeks ago. but remind you, that when you disagree, you write a response or comment show that you disagree and which will start a debate. but this does not excuse us from rating the person negatively, because it will hurt us too. I guess to those who didn't give a damn about the star. some of us veterans have done this,
But i don't know how much do you take on this issue
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23 responses
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
16 Oct 10
Well I am one who has been affected by the quick falling star, I have no idea outside of intentionally.
I do not involve myself in debatable discussions as I have enough cr@p in my off-life life to intentionally inflict further stress online. We do not make a zillion bucks here so I would not waste my valuable time in intentionally being involved in something clearly someone will find oppose-able. I am sadden that people have intentionally affected me and so many others that I have noticed also falling.
It may not be such a great deal to some people I always speak form the heart, I invest quite a bit of time here, see my posts and this is after only four months. So for members to do this intentionally really, really saddens me as I have been losing my zest for myLot in the last two weeks and to be honest not quite sure how much longer I would remain, as I really try to be helpful and for some to intentionally do this is appalling. The way I see it is I can get negative before without any efforts in my off-line life so why would I continue to spend the hours I do on here and inflict it intentionally.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Oct 10
Don't allow people to drive you away. I have been posting here off and on for about 2 years now. I like this site and platform, and if I see a lot of good discussions to respond to and come up with a few of my own, I can actually make a decent amount daily. I kind of go thru cycles... sometimes I'm here a lot, other times I'm not. It just depends. There are always going to be trolls and people who aim to be idiots all the time, everywhere. There is no freedom from that, although I entirely blame their parents for their sick attitudes lol. BAD PARENTING. The cause of all evil lol.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Hardworkinggurl,
well, you did helped a lot of people. most specially when other users are using the cash gopher and most doesn't seemed to have any idea about it. but i can't believed such increased had caused you're down fall of the star again. makes me realized, i shouldn't just butt in and help with criticized so much. i remain humble.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Oct 10
The lesson to be learned through this is that nobody should care about ratings, and ratings should not signify anything. We cannot and should not give other people the power to use petty and shallow and insecure issues to beat us around because they are miserable lol.
For those people who actually rate others down because they disagree with you - GROW UP. Your insecurities are showing and you are a coward for going behind peoples' backs and not posting to their face that you rated them down because you can't stand they don't agree with you. I think if someone is going to negatively rate you for such a petty reason, they should at least have to post in the thread and tell you (and the whole community) what they did and why. Rating ought not be allowed unless you post in the thread, and it should be relevant to the subject, not just a smilie or one word.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Jean25,
well, could have been better if you didn't went personally went against the oldies. you wouldn't have that kind of star. no to mentioned that you were able not to get much from you're other topics as well. that's alright and we should be blessed indeed. As long as the anonymousity is present, they're rather be together as friends.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Oct 10
In fact, if you disagree with a post, but still feel it positively contributes to the discussion, you should rate it positively. Rating quality content negatively will hurt your ratings overall. Remember differing opinions and viewpoints tend to make for the most interesting discussions.
This deserves to be said repeatedly, and I also think it should be enforced somehow so people who go about negatively rating for the wrong reasons either lose their ability to rate at all, or they get barred from the site. I do know people get barred from the site, I hear about it all the time, so those who misuse the rating system really should not go around acting all smug like you do.
I disagree wtih a lot of opinions here, because they are OPINIONS. Not facts. FEELINGS. Not RIGHT or WRONG. I rate most positively though, even people I vehemently disagree with. Why? That is the purpose and basis of this site - quality discussion. Quality discussion doesn't occur in a vacuum. When everybody says the same exact thing, how boring is that? We should be aware of different viewpoints, awareness is key to growth even if you never decide it is valid. Just knowing it's out there helps broaden your world and understand other people.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Mommyboo,
well, it seems that they are some people out there that doesn't want to learn and earn. but i believed in my end i have undoubtedly responded according to what i believed. unfortunately, some wanted to go personal and rate others negative. i guess some people doesn't have clue that women prefer to brain storm. because of this we need to separate from quality from quality level if you report this they\n thy die.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Devilova,
wow that's good to know that you report instead of rating them negatively. besides, rate it negative then things will also affect you're earnings. i don't get why some users still post some referral links. all i can say to you is that keep up the good work.
@GreedyMoney (146)
• Philippines
16 Oct 10
that's the problem with people like you who likes to keep the start. afraid that such a wrong impression can give you one heck of a bad rating. but let them be. giving those kind of people attention makes it worse.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello greedy Money,
You have a point there. knowing that they will respond and comment more with negative rating if we give personal attention. probably they haven't done much good in life or simply they have too many negative things that i we should take it as positive.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello greedy Money,
You have a point there. knowing that they will respond and comment more with negative rating if we give personal attention. probably they haven't done much good in life or simply they have too many negative things that i we should take it as positive.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
16 Oct 10
I never considered that, but you're right. Someone who didn't read the ToS might think that lol. I read all the info before I joined or posted anything here... I wanted to make sure I didn't bust in to a new community and piss all over their floor lol. Not only might some well meaning member try to give me a diaper then, it's really not wise to do that as a newbie anyway. You want to get to know a new community and slowly become a well respected contributing member, not rush in willy nilly knowing nothing and making mistakes right and left that could have been avoided if you read all the fine print first
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Strovek,
The price of them not reading the rules will surely be their undoing, with the help of those who report their offenses. some still violates the rules, that's why we have to participate also in determining the people who don't follow the TOS and discussion Guidelines. too bad for them, they don't realize admin is obviously active.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
16 Oct 10
If something is bad enough to be rated negatively, then Admin should really be notified so that they can decide to remove it. That is what reporting is about.
Maybe the [-] button shouldn't really be there at all. Perhaps a 'three star' or 'five star' rating system would be overkill but I think that a more positive approach would be an advantage.
I would also like to see the rating system have an influence on the 'Best Response' (either for the discussion owner's information only or publicly displayed). It is still very important that the ratings should be anonymous, however.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Owlings,
Yeah, who would know a person rating you negative and what would you feel about it. am sure, if you find out that a mylot friend of yours had been rating you negatively, the scale of friendship changes. it's not easy either that such can be revealed. we risk being too emotional thinking that we have been betrayed, causing rivalries instead of more friendships.
@EnslinPorter (1718)
• Philippines
16 Oct 10
I don't rate the person negative if the person disagrees with me, as long as it's done in a constructive and nice manner. There's nothing wrong with voicing one's opinion but some users would be rude and make their arguments in bad taste. Friendly debates are nice but literally violent reactions don't make a healthy environment here on anywhere else whether it's online or in real life.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello EnslinPorter,
yup, that should be done in the first place. well, some of those rude users are simply trying to put out a situation that leads to verbal abuse. i have seen friendly debates but some debates are just too damn too much for comfort. but most debates always leads to anger and pain.
@Mikaela_taz25 (1842)
• Philippines
16 Oct 10
i think since we can't see who's been rating us negative or positively, we don't know how it will be stop. since it's anonymous then most users would use their emotion of upset just to satisfy they're anger. and then regret it in the end, but most don't give a damn about their star.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Mika,
I doubt it will be stop because it's not shown at all. if they are and kept doing that then they violated the law. well, some are just here to speak for their thing and doesn't care what others think. to some they are just ignore but to many realization, we should have done investigations.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Oct 10
Noway I think someone should be rated negatively for not agreeing. I think that the differences in opinions is what makes a discussion great...If everyone agreed about everything there would be nothing left to learn and all discussions useless. I rate all respectful responses positive and respectful does not mean they agreed with me. It means they discussed their opinion without nasty or hurtful responses. I think that the only reason for a negative rating would be abuse. Great post!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello JenInTn,
Yeah, instead of rating it negatively, just state you're disagreement to the subject. we can't really judge a person except when they are out of phase or the response or comments are completely false. i have seen abused or solicitation in their responses. i recall reporting two; one, the response has nothing to do with topic. second, the responder violate the rules.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
16 Oct 10
hello dear Letran,
I don't rate negative.
There was a time during my early days here that someone disagree with my response and even blame me for his ratings down.
So,the last resort i did is,report that mylotter to admin.
Have a great Sunday dear brother
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
hello Jaiho,
this is just to sad, but am happy you're not rating others negatively. wow, how can some one blame you when you didn't do a thing wrong. probably verbal abuse but such has to be reported. thank you very much there.have a great day.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello 1anurag1,
Opinion really does matter and not the rating. you wouldn't learn a thing from just rating the post negative. they don't realize that it's really affecting them instead of benefiting their reputation as a mylotter. it's not easy to do it of course.
@madteaparty (2748)
• Japan
16 Oct 10
Um, I think that everyone has the right to have their own opinions and express them out loud, as well as I have the right to disagree with them . That's why I still haven't used the "rate negative" button, or so I think. Talking is the way to know if another person doesn't agree with you (or if that person agrees, of course), so it's better to say than to rate, I think
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Madteaparty,
yeah, no matter how much you hate it. we just have to respect their views, even though you think they have also negative rate(suspecion). well, the risk of saying allows you being vulnerable to being rated negatively. an example of that is what's happened to lamby..have a great day.
@RebeLotter (253)
•
16 Oct 10
rating isn't really bad. look at me, they rated me negative but i still do posting. money doesn't really matter to me. but thank you for raising this concern. i hope others will refrain from stabbing in the back through rating.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello rebelotter,
Yes, but i doubt u are after the high reputation or anything. but atlas I am very luicky to have a sleep order with out a fear of being picked on again. well, they will be taught alesson. and that is reporting it was really hard though but it was just hard to move on.
@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
16 Oct 10
Everyone has its own opinion on a certain discussion. We cannot force anyone to agree with us or to our opinion when he/she has a different point of view on something. Hence, such different opinion is not a reason for me to give that person or respondent or commenter a negative rating. Inasmuch as negative rating is concerned, I have never given that to anyone here. I would always give people a positive rating whether I agree or not agree to his/her response or comment. Even when that comment or post is quite offensive to me, I still do not give that person a negative rate.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello maean_19,
that's true, no matter how sick or blunt it maybe. It's their right to stage their own opinion. i wonder, despite of me giving posite rating, why am I still rated negative. some people are really like that. it's so hard to keep the rating upfloat, just have to be patient with other people.
@maezee (41988)
• United States
18 Oct 10
Of course we shouldn't negatively rate people we don't agree with.. I like your idea on making this discussion, because although I feel like MyLot's cooled down over the past year or so, at the same time, it's always an issue when someone is so set in their ways and stubborn with their opinions that they won't even be open-minded enough to hear what someone else's viewpoint is, and have a civil discussion like adults should. But.. crazy people will be crazy. Ratings aren't really a big deal to me either.
@millertime (1394)
• United States
19 Oct 10
I never rate someone negatively just because I don't agree with them or don't like their opinion. Everyone is welcome to their opinion and welcome to voice that opinion here on MyLot. I will rate someone negatively though if when they are voicing that opinion, they insult or degrade others here, or what they say is offensive for reasons other than just their opinion. Sarcasm can be funny sometimes but if done in the wrong way, it can be very condescending and hurt feelings and there is no need for that. Everyone can voice their opinion but do so with a civil tongue. If they don't, they risk getting that little - box checked.
On the other side of the coin, I also try to remember to give a positive rating if I feel that they made really good comments and really contributed well to the discussion. There are a lot of people here that are really well spoken and do a fantastic job helping people out and making thought provoking and valuable responses. I try to remember to reward them as well. I hope everyone does that.
@Aaleexix (2290)
• India
16 Oct 10
Rating should not be based on liking or disliking. Rating should be based on the quality. Some are against my opinion doesn't mean that he is wrong. So disagreement is different matter and quality is another.
Rating negative deserve only then when something irrelevant towards the matter of the topic. Contradictory opinion qualify any discussion. Contradiction is there so it is a matter of discussion. If we have no other opinion, then what needs of discussion.
So we should not consider any opinion as negative just because of contradictory opinion.
It is a very hard to judge any thing properly. So there is lot of change of being negatively rated for any opinion of different viewpoint.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Aaleexix,
that's true, but most people tend to have little knowledge of that and they rate the topic based on what they liked or disliked some how. well, if it's irrelevant, then we should report that topic because it's not right for some reason. i remember having not so related responses, i reported them and disappeared.
@qianyun6 (2067)
• China
16 Oct 10
Hi, LetranKnight25!
Yes, you are absolutely right! We mustn't rate a person negative only because we don't agree with his/her. But the question is rating is a personal activity. You know, I know can't represent everyone knows. The myLot program can't judge whether a negative rating is from disagreement or not. So I think myLot shouldn't give the users right to judge other members negative.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Oct 10
Hello Qianyun6,
well, if it's personal activity but i tshould be done with a degree of little responsibility and not a way to divulge hate and gore. it's not right for some reason. well, mylot admin gave that will and freedom for us here. it's not right really but that's how the way it is.
@jajamasorong (163)
• Philippines
24 Oct 10
I haven't experienced rating users especially with a negative feedback.
Though sometimes, users can get quite edgy and irritating with all the spammy effects of "lol. lol. lololololol." Talk about spam. :\
Probably reporting would do. :)
Anyway, hope this counts.
--Jaja