Awesome Conversation ! Don't Miss A Word of It

Dr. Abdul Kalam - 212 × 300 - 15k - jpg
vandeindia.com
India
October 21, 2010 1:43am CST
Don't miss even a single word... An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and..... Prof: So you believe in God? Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof : Is God good? Student: Sure.. Prof: Is God all-powerful? Student : Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.) Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good? Student : No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God..... Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct? Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? (Student does not answer.) Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them? (Student has no answer.) Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes. Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat . We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness? Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how? Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.) Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.) Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son. Student: That is it sir.... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive. NB: I believe you have enjoyed the conversation...and if so...you'll probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same...won't you?.... this is a true story, and the student was none other than......... .. . . .. . . .. . .. APJ Abdul Kalam, the former president of India .
4 responses
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
21 Oct 10
I would never know how the end of the conversations if I did not read it to the end. Great one.
• India
22 Oct 10
Thanks jennyze, I know you must have enjoyed it as much as I did. Dr. Abdul Kalam, inspite of being the President of India, was the most humble of all men, and his knowledge profound. Such men with logic and faith are rare to find. Cheers.
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
22 Oct 10
Is he the President now? Great guy.
• Philippines
21 Oct 10
That give us some lessons in life. Faith in God do matter. Let us always pray to God and thank Him for all the wonderful things he has given us.
• India
22 Oct 10
Yes dorisday, its the one thing that keeps us going. Mr. Abdul Kalam was in such and exalted position, but you have still to see a more humble man. He not only had brains, being the head of our Atomic Research Centre, but also the President of India. His conversation with his professor tells us a lot about his faith in the Almighty and his acceptance of all that comes from Him. Thanks,
@urbandekay (18278)
21 Oct 10
The professor was pretty lame and doesn't deserve his position all the best urban
• India
22 Oct 10
Hi, its not the professor being lame, its the student who was smart enough to convince him that it is the faith that counts, not just in our scientific world but also in religion. This ex president of India has to be seen to believe his smartness and humility. He was a scientist of a very high caliber and yet the humblest person on earth, even with such a high designation. Such men come rare.
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
21 Oct 10
Very great conversation sure. I am sure there have been more then one very similar to it, but I do like it. Science requires Faith, as much as Religion does. All things require Faith. Of course, I also got, that bad things are the absence of God, now, what choices do we make, that cause God to be absent in our lives, if only for a short time? That is the question to ponder. Sincerely and With Appreciation.
• India
22 Oct 10
Hi CJ, thanks for the appreciation. I enjoyed it soo much, I had to share it with you guys. Yes, in times of trouble, we tend to feel that God is absent, or sleeping while the Devil takes care of his own, but then in the long run, when we look back, we know that what happened at that point of our life was for our own good. I have often experienced it. It is the faith only that pulls us through, for I always pray during tiring times that I in my ignorance cannot understand your wish, but I know you will pull me through. And he does. And then I know that what happened to me then was all for the best.