You treat me like dirt

@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
November 4, 2010 5:25pm CST
So you're in a relationship that's ending, and you're naturally distancing yourself from the other person. You keep them in the loop regarding the children and the finances, act respectfully toward them, don't undermine their authority, don't try and cheat them out of anything, etc. But you also no longer confide in them your feelings, dreams, etc. You set boundaries where maybe there weren't as many boundaries before. You start doing things separately. Does that all count as treating the person like dirt? What would you consider to be treating somebody like dirt?
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
8 Nov 10
Well... Yes it would to some extent. If you are married, then you are married. Until you are not married, you are still married. So, even if the relationship will end at some point in the future, in my book, you should still act like you are married to them... because... you are. Now if you are not married anymore. Then no, you are simply not acting like you are married anymore... because... you're not.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
I filed for divorce and I have a separation date on record. Far as I'm concerned, that means I don't have to act like I'm married...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
I'm setting a very good example for the children. He is the one who keeps coming out with temper and value judgments and so on. I've never bad mouthed him to the children once, and he has made some nasty comments about me.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
8 Nov 10
You can rationalize anything you want. Just remember how you act is the example you give to your children. They will follow in your foot steps, straight to ruin if that's where you lead them.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
6 Nov 10
Treating someone like dirt is bad mouthing them infront of children, family friends, and strangers. Bad mouthing includes: sarcasm criticism telling off ordering about speaking rudely or disrespectfully other ways to treat someone like dirt: being mean not sharing ignoring (not saying hello or good bye)
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
8 Nov 10
Yes but Dawn, you have to do that for him to get the message. Because he is acting like this is not happening. If you are nice to him he will take it the wrong way. The thing is, you should really be apart by now, if not literally, then at least be separate in other ways. R just isn't playing the game right, he won't face the reality, let alone accept it. You need to sit him down and explain the rules to him.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
I suppose so, but I feel as if I have explained them over and over again, and I'm tired of it....
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
Well I"m probably guilty of that last one at least somewhat...
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
5 Nov 10
Ok - since you asked - suppose there is something that hurts me, and humiliates me, and I have voiced it to you before - and since the relationship is ending, you start teasing me about it... you take the help of others to raise topics like that ... and tease me about it. Even when I repeatedly tell you it hurts... you just laugh it off saying its a joke... that hurts. That is when I will feel as if I am being treated like dirt, and invariably I will show the dirt colors.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I promise not to tease you about it...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
6 Nov 10
You seem too sensitive a person to do anything nasty like that. I am lucky to find a friend like you.
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@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
5 Nov 10
Treating someone like dirt according to me, is giving them some good hell in life. Swearing at them and making sure they are miserable. What you are doing is not treating him like dirt at all. TATA.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
First one, then the other?
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
Can I sic you on him?
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
5 Nov 10
Whips or pitch fork?
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@hofferp (4734)
• United States
5 Nov 10
No, I wouldn't consider these actions/thought/etc. "treating somebody like dirt". It's certainly not comfortable for either of you, I'm sure. I just hope the situation doesn't go to heck before the divorce becomes final. Do you have a time for the divorce yet?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I'm filling the final papers out so I can get them to the court. My thought was to ask for a date of January 1st. That way we do our taxes as married for this year, and it's a clean break for next year.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I do get snappish with him, but he gets on my nerves. That's one reason why I keep my distance...
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
5 Nov 10
Makes sense. I'd just keep on doing what you're doing. Nothing you're doing/saying sounds disrespectful, mean under the circumstances... And treating him fairly will help both of you and the kids get through this a little easier, hopefully.
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6 Nov 10
i was treated like dirt by my ex and i now hate him and dont even want to be anywhere near him
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
Sounds pretty reasonable.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Nov 10
Yeah no kidding...
11 Nov 10
i think its very reasonable, especially when he hit me twice.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
6 Nov 10
No I do not, you are breaking up with the Person, the togetherness is not there any more You are preparing to lead your own Life without this Person, you do not want this Person to share your deepest Thoughts and that any more, so no that is not treating them like Dirt, they are aware that you are preparing for the Divorce and if they can not accept that and see what is happening, that is their Problem not yours, it is not treating them like Dirt at all
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
@vandy lol Yep, that makes a huge amount of sense to me Gaby, but not to a certain male person... Saturday night he wanted to know if he could join me in bed, couldn't understand why not, kept saying I didn't want to try any more (well duh) as if it were an accusation. Sunday he was asking me to renew our vows. Sheeshh.... He's going to have a hard time when those final papers come in the mail.
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
6 Nov 10
Another blond talking sense. What is happening? Are they selling some sense pills in the market that I am not aware of?
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
8 Nov 10
Of course not! When and if it's consciously done for the betterment of the two and all, I think that's just the right way to deal with it. Nothing's more important than being holding each other with respect and not letting go of each others self esteem. Some things in life never fix and when we get to realise that, respectful distancing is the only answer. That's how I feel dawny.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
"respectful distancing" - I like that...
@savypat (20216)
• United States
5 Nov 10
To me this comes under the "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" clause. If you are being treated this way just ignore it and step away, but if you are considering doing this, just DON'T.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I'm an expert at ignore and step away!
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
6 Nov 10
That I have to agree with you Dawny...:) I am opposite. I give it back as good as I get, after my patience is exhausted of course.
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@marguicha (222999)
• Chile
5 Nov 10
Dearest Dawn, I´m afraid your only problem is that you have treated your husband TOO WELL!!!And because of that, it seems that he is not aware that you are going to divorce. Maybe he still hopes this is "just a phase". If that is so, he might feel you are treating him like dirt. You are not sleeping with him, you don´t cry on his chest. How long are you going to go on living together and how long are you going to sleep in the couch? How much longer are you going to act SO respectfully that he can still think you (his wife) are treating him like dirt? Legally you are married. It seems that in other senses you are divorced. Explain. Show. Act.Don´t treat him in any way. Bye, Adios. The end. John Wayne mounting on his horse and leaving forever.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
lol I'm filling out the final paperwork now. Meanwhile, he gets the bedroom and I get the spare bed. No couch for anybody. But realistically I may not be able to get him out. It may have to wait until we sell the house.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
Housing market not so good, but I think it's picking up...
@marguicha (222999)
• Chile
7 Nov 10
I know that money issues are not easy to solve. But one thing is to have him i the house and another is to cather for him and include him in you social outings. I do hope all papers are done soon and the house gets sold. How´s that in California?
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
8 Nov 10
This is definitely not treating someone like dirt. In fact, this is treating someone a lot better than people typically do when a relationship is coming to an end. I would think that treating someone like dirt would be putting them out on the street without any place to go. It would be having no communication at all whatsoever when it came to any of the affairs that the two of you once shared. It would be anything but what you are doing with your ex.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
Heck even if I could put him out on the street, he could go to his mom's...
@Renhard (3471)
• Jamaica
4 Nov 10
Why do you always have problems similar to these. Anyway i dont classify that treating someone like dirt. What i classify as treating someone like dirt is if you start to treat them bad, start to disrespect them or so but not if you leasve them out of a certain situation.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Nov 10
Because we still live in the same house, and because my husband is a drama queen...
@Renhard (3471)
• Jamaica
5 Nov 10
You need to learn how to get along. Even though you have filed for a divorce doesnt mean you two should be enemies
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
OH we mostly get along, but every once in a while he makes some comment like that. But I realize that it's HIM spouting off, and nothing to do with me really.
@buragee (172)
4 Nov 10
Well, couple should have openness in them. Improve your openness in one another. If he/she doesn't want to open his\her door to you. Then you should not force him\er to open it.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Nov 10
Did you miss the point that this couple is breaking up?
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I think a lot of openness would be good. As in "wide open spaces"... lol
@buragee (172)
4 Nov 10
Oh my bad. Is there nothing to do anything besides that openness between you and your spouse?
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@nikramos (698)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
not all of it but ive seen a situation almost like yours and is the closest i can associate with treating someone like dirt. no more mentioning about finances in detail, authority is undermined (not only between the couple but with the children to their parent also), cheating but not deliberately, no confiding of feelings either. really mean and is lacking deep respect but at some point i came to understand that people have their own reasons for having to act so. with what i saw, boundaries have been pushed and there is no more room for chances as all the patience and understanding that have been long sown were all consumed. the whole act was the result of years of being treated badly and i dont blame this person for being so protective of herself now that she finally found the courage to live happily only with her kids. unless we are in their place or we live with them, we wouldnt understand fully what made them choose to treat someone like "dirt"
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
Probably it is a poor choice of words. He really has no idea how his words impact other people anyway.
@nikramos (698)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
oh and one more thing, she doesnt regret having done all those so i guess "treating him like dirt" is the best phrase she can use to describe it. that and if she can think of something appropriate.
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@DawGwath (1042)
• Romania
5 Nov 10
Look on the bright side, you are now freeeeeeeeeee like a bird. And to answer your question, I usually treat dirt by ignoring it. And brushing it off my feet. It really doesn't sound like that from your description.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I'm not freeeee yet, but I"m getting there....
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Nov 10
Treating someone like dirt would mean talking down to the person, behaving rudely to them, taking them for granted, and manipulating them in other words showing that person no respect. I would not considering setting appropriate boundaries and not sharing the level of intimacy you once had as treating that person badly. It sounds to me like someone has not accepted the fact that the relationship is well and truly over and probably had been for a long time before the divorce papers were filed. What happens sometimes is one partner is completely reliant on the other and although he or she probably made no effort toward the relationship and took the other for granted when the time comes for the partnership to end, said person lives in complete denial because it is too difficult for he or she to come to terms that they are going to be on their own.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
Sounds about right...
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
6 Nov 10
Noway that is treating someone like dirt. There are alot of people out there that have been taken for a ride during a divorce and that is not my definition of it. I think that treating someone like dirt would be to have been to take as much as could be taken. I also think that it is a fairly rare thing that someone lets the other "get used to the idea" of being apart. I think that is far from dirt.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Nov 10
Not exactly my choice, but I can't really force him out. Not easily...
@much2say (55601)
• Los Angeles, California
5 Nov 10
Well, with a relationship that's ending, I would think it's just natural to start separating ways/things. The things you described, I wouldn't count that as treating someone like dirt. Treating like dirt - to me that means you intentionally treat them last rate - you just don't give a crap about them and your actions would show you could care less about them. Being respectful and courteous - at least that's showing "civil" care. The not sharing of feelings and dreams - or setting new boundaries - well, just a process of "letting go".
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
Yep it is. He will get it eventually, I suppose...
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
For me it is very bad thing to your life before you encounter it be honor your self so that you know how others honor you.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
Very true...
5 Nov 10
That is not treating someone like dirt at all. Instead this is doing the right and honest and amicable thing. To grab some distance which in time will be more is good, to keep them upto date on children and money shows your a good parent and your not wanting to take all the money, you don't try to create any problems, you want things to be a pleasent experience and you seem to be doing that. If you did the opposite of all of this then yes you will be treating them like dirt, but your not.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
5 Nov 10
I'm trying. Sometimes I get snappish when he gets on my nerves, but I am trying...