Blood thirstiness in the bible

@ivansama (758)
Bulgaria
November 5, 2010 7:10am CST
What's your opinion on all the sick twisted things in the bible. all the cruelty, incest, sacrifices and many many more?
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@formidexo (1351)
• Canada
7 Nov 10
Hi ivansama! The Bible is very honest and candid in recording the good, the bad and the ugly actions of mankind and individuals. If it was all rosy then we would know it was doctored and it would be an unreliable guide and we would know it was the work of man. The Bible presents itself as the word of God and it's honesty testifies to that because we know what man whether he claims to be a believer or a non-believer can do. The religious have shed much blood but the non-religious have shed as much if not more blood (communist regimes, Cambodia). If we try to stay honest and fair the Bible will come to show that it is truly the word of God who is just and records all the facts and doesn't hide anything. I view myself as an honest person that will assess all accounts with fairness. Give me one example of what you are presenting and I promise to analyze it as fair as possible and see what we can learn from it. I know that God is a God of justice but there are great issues at stake and the future of the universe in the balance. I know that the temporary toleration of evil will set the record straight for the future. A little pain will be worth it for all that mankind will gain for eternity. I wish you well!
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
7 Nov 10
But a lot of the Awful things in the bible were done by god. Also what with the witch hunts and nazis l'm pretty sure the religious people have shed way more blood. And l'll just keep the examples to Genesis and Exodus for now. starting with the one that disturbed me the most. Lot and his daughters.
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
8 Nov 10
True but the bible also says lot was righteous. also it doesn't say anything about god stopping that. so yeah he apparently down't mind incest. and after all any laws against incest are kind of irrelevant if you force people to do it twice.
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@formidexo (1351)
• Canada
9 Nov 10
Let's try to be fair here. His daughters got him drunk. Why? Obviously they knew that he wasn't going to willingly do such an action. Also, righteous doesn't mean perfect because if that was the case there would be no righteous people. God has intervened only a few times into man's affairs. He has let man express his right to free will to it's limit. When in the near future God does intervene, the record will be clear about the fact that man cannot be allowed to use is free will without restrictions and boundaries ever again. Our self-determination has led us to the brink of destroying the earth and all life on it. In the near future we will yet see unimaginable atrocities and we will welcome God intervening instead of feeling that He has no right and should leave us be. "after all any laws against incest are kind of irrelevant if you force people to do it twice." I'm not clear here. Who forced who?
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@nas8228 (59)
• United States
5 Nov 10
The bible is the story of man. Take a look around. Man does some pretty messed up stuff all the time. The book is considered to be holy because its writing is said to be inspired by God. Did God make it all up? No, it all really happened (it's proven to be the most historically accurate book) but God's hand ensured that what happened was recorded correctly and added in some prophecy of what would and still will happen later.
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• United States
5 Nov 10
times, places, events, people, predictions
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
5 Nov 10
What do you even mean by that?
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
5 Nov 10
Were you being sarcastic about the most historically accurate book? You are aware it has talking snakes and donkeys in it, right?
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
We have to seek, study and understand which are good and which are evil. Apply on our daily lives from what we have learned the knowledge of Wisdom in the Bible, which are only good to God, to us and to others.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
What I have stated is my very own simple OPINION to your very simple question. I'm sorry these is all I got and I'm not perfect. Sorry I don't pleased you. Please share me what you know and I'm gratefully to have.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
l just failed to understand what you're opinion of the cruelty is. perhaps it's my fault
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
How is that relevant to my question?
• Jamaica
6 Nov 10
It's just to show us that there is indeed nothing new under the sun. The Bible would not be a book of truth if it had attempted to record just the good and clean things, evil and sin do exist, have been around from creation.
• Jamaica
6 Nov 10
The Bible says that He created both good and evil, light and dark, night and day. Life is about balance and who really knows the mind of God? There are many explanations but some things are still a mystery, "For now we look through a glass darkly"
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
Yes but how come god was ok with them? and really did most of them?
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
Interesting. why would a good god create evil?
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
You said "incest". Do you know what's the meaning of that word? Can you cite here an specific verse or chapter in the Bible that encourage "incest"? That's a serious accusation. Can you support your accusation? Can you back it up?
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
In the case of Noah, there was no incest. Prior to the flood, Noah's sons have their own wives and families already. In the case of Lot's children, there were already other people existing with them. The only case that you can accuse incest (which we can consider not an incest) was in the case of the children of Adam and Eve.
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
Noah and his family had to repopulate the world. being just one family suggests inbreeding (incest). Lot's daughters are never punished for what they do in that cave. Adam and eve only ever had sons.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
During the days of Adam and Eve, there were no other people but the children of them. If the children will not marry each other, then where will they get a partner? Will they get a monkey or a dog to mate so they can multiply? Of course not! The Lord commanded them to go forth and multiply, but they were not instructed to take yourself a monkey and multiply with it. The law forbidding the marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (see Leviticus Chapter 18 to 20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God's law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other. Also remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.
@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
Here is my account about your topic.. bible is the story of God's people, you believe it or not, they are happened in their times. What are the reasons and purpose why it happened like cruelty, incest, sacrificies? Those things happened because of a sinful nature of men, it was allowed by God in order to see the might power of God, in order longing people to God. But those events happened under the purpose, will and pleased of God.... in order to push the people of God for repentance.... see you around
• United States
9 Nov 10
If you're too bored to hear the other side, then its not a discussion. I'm here for discussion. Anything else is a waste of my time.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
So incest and rape please god? Also "it was allowed by God in order to see the might power of God" God did nothing about it to show how mighty and powerful he is?
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
8 Nov 10
hah what is eventually? too busy to do something now? then l was way too bored out to read all the other irrelevance
@peavey (16936)
• United States
6 Nov 10
The Bible tells the truth about mankind. If we would look at the truth today, it would be just as sordid, if not more. Sick, twisted, cruel, incestuous, lying, promiscuous, infant murdering, corrupt, without natural love or sympathy... But God still cares about us. That's amazing.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
6 Nov 10
This world is corrupt with man's sin and that's why it's in such a mess. If it would have stayed the way God made it, none of those things would have happened. Of course, you wouldn't be here, either, to argue against something you apparently haven't studied well.
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
The bible really tells everything but the truth. evidently What exactly proved that god cares about us? 9/11? haiti? Do explain.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
6 Nov 10
Yaah all the infants over at Haiti are so sinful l've studied it better than you l'm sure.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
5 Nov 10
Hi ivansama, It's the way life was back than, such terrible things were done all the time. Most of these stories of course were passed down by word of mouth for so long that it's doubtful that there is much truth there, but such things did happen. In the story of Abraham going to sacrifice his son Isaac, for example, this was a common occurrence among the people with whom he lived. The old testament of course is full of such sick and twisted things, but we must remember that it was the way that most people thought at that period in history. Blessings.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
5 Nov 10
Yes but as it's part of the holy book of Christianity then it's also part of Christianity itself. meaning the religion has nothing against incest and animal cruelty and what not
• India
16 Nov 10
These stories are given so that the people who show their abhorrence also must detest from indulging in them. You must read the whole thing and then believe in everything that is written to know the truth.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
16 Nov 10
Hah l'm sure.