Problems for the family!

That is horrible, Chem! I agree that falling asleep on the job is not a good idea but still. He is working some killer hours and with a baby keeping him up at night, it is understandable how something like this could happen. Especially the kind of work he does which is from all I've heard, a very boring job. I am sure that if my boss ever caught me falling asleep at work or anything for that matter that he would at least give me the opportunity to explain myself. Honestly, his boss sounds likes a jerk that I wouldn't want to be working for. Still, jobs are so hard to come by and I'm sure they are very worried. Hopefully he will find a better job while he is suspended.

Hi there oldchem1 I do think it sounds a little unfair. Has he done this before? I can understand the employers if he has continuely done this but not if it is his first offence. If your son-in-law had phoned in sick due to sleep deprevation I don't think they would have accepted that either. Gosh I really hope he doesnt lose his job as it is a dog eat dog out there on the employment line. I wish your family all the best!

Oh! I feel very sorry for what you have written.Only today morning we were all admiring that cute little kid and were happy for you. Is your daughter also working? If not, it would be better if the husband is made to take his peaceful sleep and she handles the kid all by herself or asks for help from you.The sleepless nights are bound to take a toll on him but his supervisors won't look at it with a symppathetic eye. He should be spared assistance at home and the mom would have to do that extra bit. If she is also going out to work then it is very difficult and can't her inlaws or you help?

Well, the work of security guard really hard because of the length of the duty. I think they should be considerate enough if the offense is only once or even two. Because that work will not prevent them to be fall asleep... But if they are in critical post which is strictly prohibited to fall asleep. The option should be transfer to other post not fired them...

I am sorry to hear this Oldchem. Working in the industry myself I know the situation. I have some additional thoughts and will PM these to you.

Did he explain that to his supervisor? was this his first time? aww thats awful..I think I would go above his supervisor and fight this..My Dad always said no matter where you work your only a number, they dont care...I wish him luck and pray he doent lose his job altogether :(

Hi Oldchem I know as a Security Guard that should not happen but everyone is only Human and I think that it would be a bit strong to sack him for this If he has a Clean Record then all he should get is a written warning and told to make sure it will not happen again I really hope someone has a heart there has a heart and lets him keep his Job I also think it is a bit tough to suspend him without Pay I hope it all goes well

Wow, I am so sorry to hear that has happened to him. The circumstances are very understandable and I do hope he does not completely lose his job. To be honest, even though it is not right to sleep on the job, they could have just written him up or given him a warning but not suspend him or dock his pay. People have no compassion anymore. It is really sad.

Oh that is horrible! It is bad enough to get suspended at work, but with a newborn baby, it just puts so much extra stress on a family. I am sure your daughter is really stress out about this on top of getting little to no sleep herself. Hopefully, he will just be suspended, and not lose his job. Tell him he needs to fight for his job and why he fell asleep. Maybe the supervisor doesn't have any kids and doesn't understand about midnight feedings and sleep depreviation.

My heart goes out to you all. The only trouble is at the moment there are a lot of people out here that will jump at the chance of grabbing his job no matter what hours.

Oooh, that's hard. Many suspended for a few days, as a type of punishment for falling asleep. It is his job and if he can't handle it, it would seem he should look for something else. I'm sorry the baby is keeping them awake, but that's part of life, and staying awake at a job is part of life too... I don't mean to sound crabby, but that's my opinion. I don't think he should lose his job, but I do think there should be some sort of punishment.

Hi Oldchem Sorry to hear about your son-inlaw Altough I understand that his supervisor had to at least speak to him about falling asleep he should not have had to go that far he could have kept it to himself (unless there is some sort of security camera there where you son inlaw was napping)But none the less with a record like you say he has with no prior discipline problems I think the supervisor could have let this one slide with just a warning I mean really? Seriouly? As tough as things are out there now a days and with a new baby you don't kick a man when he's down and he was probably sleepy from all the hours he had worked most likely he is over worked and underpaid. I hope things work out for him and that he gets off with just this suspension if so have him take some hot black coffee or something to keep him awake on his shifts because if they let this one slide most likely they'll be watching him like a hawk for a while

Sorry to hear about this but he should try to take to his supervisor and maybe someone from Human Resources or something. His good track record should mean something. I can see suspended for short time ok, but losing his job is excessive. He is not like he stole something or was drinking on the job.

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It is understandable that working the graveyard shift is tiring and difficult to keep awake. Unless the person has been warned many times, it would not be appropriate to suspend a person from duty at the first offence. Perhaps there is a grievance procedure to seek redress.

I agree, they could've been more lenient considering his situation however, with a zero tolerance policy, they have to be equal to him as they are with anybody else. After all, he's in the security business, they need him to be awake and able to do his job and if he's not then (sorry!) they have to reprimand him. I pray they don't fire him. That would be a little harsh. And he needs to find some peace and quiet so he gets the rest that he needs even if that means taking the baby out of the house for a few hours.

yes they have to be considerate because of his situation. did they let him give explanations? did he explain it correctly? oh any way, i feel sad for you.... i mean reality's really harsh and hard on us. it's getting harder to survive the world out there, financially, socially, politically...know what i'm saying.. :( ...

He should be given second chance, if he would apologize right? Would him? I don't know, maybe they are really strict on this type of job, because once the burglar comes in, important property, or serious damage might be done. Better luck for him.

The nature of the job is very critical and once there's something happen at the time that he fall asleep it might cause a bigger problem. I don't think his employee would tolerate that. Advise him not to do that anymore. If ever, he really is not capable to do his job because of his situation then I think its better for him to file his leave of absence officially to avoid this problem.

Its been a hard few months for you poor son in law, but pray for the better. Falling asleep at work shouldn't be reprimanded as badly, especially in this case. Security guards don't need to use much of their minds to stand cover, compared to researchers and managers who constantly calculate and organize. These few minutes may be a precursor to future wealth, and I dearly hope he has enough money to raise his baby daughter. What a bad situation to deal with. It hits my head hard when innocent people are punished for indecency. Problems like these are not for the long term.