When a friend lend you some money, then he don't pay you, how do you think?
By phong1040572
@phong1040572 (672)
Thailand
November 19, 2010 3:36am CST
A friend of my wife has borrowed us some money 1 years ago. He said that he would paid us in a fews day. But you know, it is 1 years since he borrowed us. The sum of money is not much ( about 250$). We don't want to hurt him, my wife has remind him a lot of time but he don't pay for us. At the time he borrow us, my wife and him are closed friend, but now, my wife avoid to meet and talk to him. My wife hate him. What about you? how do you think when a friend borrow you some money and never pay back for you?
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38 responses
@lxdollarsxl (76)
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19 Nov 10
Does the money mean that much to you to avoid talking to him? If i lend money i look at as a gift and do not expect to have it returned, if it is then thats wonderful, but i would never ruin a relationship over a small amount - if it were a much larger amount i would presume that they had a real problem that they need help with and write it off to experience. Maybe they have more going on in their lives that you are unaware of and as a friend maybe you should talk and see if there is anything that you can help with. Money may not be what he needs, maybe its some form of help with a drink problem or something similar. peace!
@jinjer168 (1596)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
You're such a kind person sirlxdollarsxl, I admire you for being that way, you have a totally opposite way as mine in seeing this situation. May your tribe increase!
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Well dear. you are so kind. I will not break a friendship just for a little money like that. But because he don't trust us, when he get trouble we give him all we can, now we need some money and I want to him to give back. I think he can repay for me. He has just bought a new house and a new motor. He use a modern cell phone, how do you feel in this case?
@lxdollarsxl (76)
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20 Nov 10
life is too short to worry about little things - some might say i must be an easy touch, far from it. Not too long ago i was empire building but came to realise that not only was i giving myself stress i wasnt living life to the full. So these days im much more tolerant of others and live a much simpler lifestyle - all this in turn shows me that money is not important but friends are.
@aaronfyzeon (1920)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
I have posted a discussion like this a few weeks ago. It has been a month and a half that passed since I lend one friend money and until now he still does not pay me back. Not even a single cent. The worst part of it is that he is avoiding me. Does not respond to my messages to him and never answer my calls. It surely a big lesson for me.
@aaronfyzeon (1920)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
Oh I am so sorry to hear that. Well it will be now a great lesson for us. For me I just lend him a hundred bucks so it is not that big. But it will cover much of my allowance or budget for half the month. So it really is a big deal for me. I guess you haven't seen the post that I started a few weeks before about this. Anyway, I hope you are now managing your finances really well and being able to cope up with paying the loans that you had before. Have a great day thank-s.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Well. dear aaronfyzeon!
I don't see your discussion about this problem, If I see it, I will make this discussion. Anyway, I am sorry for you. We are in same situation now. Hope you can get money back and have a good day to you!
Dear thanks1961!
Your story is more big problem than me. I am sorry to hear about your story. You are a very kind and helpful person. But you only recieve the fake from your friend. Hope everything will be OK with you dear!
@sminut13 (1783)
• Singapore
21 Nov 10
i have had this similar experience. well i didn't really lend him the money. i was actually tutoring his 2 sons together with other students. there was a bit of delay in paying for the first month fees although they did pay maybe 2 months later, although by then they owed me another months fees which they said would pay when the next salary came or something. i waited but nothing. a few months passed and soon, their exams came to a close and the school holidays were going to start but i have yet to hear from then.
they also had their own problems i knew but who doesn't. so i called them and they said they'd be getting an advance salary as they were going on holiday leave soon. so i decided to wait till then. the advance salary came, and yet i still didn't hear from them for around 5 days. it felt too awkward to keep calling as i wanted to let them call me. in the end i had no choice but to call and i couldn't seem to reach them at all. then one day, i managed and he says that he can't pay me as he doesn't have money. he used them all paying debts. my husband was pissed off, of course. he was the one who recommended as he knew them. they did pay a few years before when i taught them but it seems it was too tough.
but what i'm not happy about is, i told him, even if he couldn't pay the full amount which was $610, at least try to pay me half or even 100-200 as i was really in need. he said he'd try but never heard from him. i decided to leave it at that. also, if he knew that it was going to be tough for him to pay the tuition fees, he should have stopped. but instead he told me to help his older son just for a month during the exam period. it was hard for me to refuse as i did want students to do well for exams. it was not just monetary for me.
but still, no money and now, he's gone for holiday leave and i'm sure i'm not going to hear from him. sigh i agree, money can cause a lot of problems. it is very awkward when you face them again. in fact, they should feel even more embarassed as they're the ones in debt but i too feel the awkwardness. i don't know how to behave anymore. we might chat with hi or hello, but it's not the same as before definitely.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
22 Nov 10
Well, you have a bad experience than me. Thanks for sharing information. Hope you will have a good friendship later!
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
19 Nov 10
Hi dear,
Is is so bad, once they are in need, we helped them. Now it is their duty to payback once they are in a stable conditions. If they crossed the deadline, you can ask them. Still not paying on repeated reminders, do not help them later on and better to detailed friendship. If they are really in trouble and they are unable to pay in time, you can wait for some more time, and ask when they can pay back. All money matters are not handled properly, it will spoil our relationships.
I have such so many people helped with such sums. Once they are not paid, I never asked them. In such a way I lost a lots of money. Also, major amounts also lost because of my carelessness, where I cannot blame any body.
Regards,
Thank-s
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
22 Nov 10
Hi dear,
You are right. When they get money enough, they take things lightly. Actually, they are desperately in need of money, they asked you and you paid. Now, they got money in hand, and they don’t consider of your urgency or they help you provided. They have taken the fact so lightly and that is why they didn’t bother of paying back.
If this is the fact and find ok, you can remind him saying that, so long you haven’t paid the borrowed money and as I have some urgent requirement of some extra money, if you can pay back the earlier borrowed money, it will be helpful for me, or will you able to estimate when can you pay me back so as to I can arrange the financial adjustments – if you say in this way, you can oversee his attitude and trend about the borrowed money. As long as you are provided the help, you can ask him back at any consequences.
Regards,
Thank-s
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Thanks dear. Actually, at the beginning my wife did not ask him about this money. Because recent day, he has bought a new house, a new Motor. So, she know he has money and can pay for us so that my wife ask about that. But now, It's happened for 2 weeks and he still silence. Well, this will be a good experience for us! Have a good day mate!
@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
20 Nov 10
Know what? why not create a contract when the payer should pay? so if the borrower wont pay you have something to hold on to? he must have the contract signed. Or just lend him just enough for you to forget about when he wont?
When friends turn to PESTS.. I will just ask them to pay up, after that.. GOODBYE! know what I do? I will also borrow money from the person who borrowed money from me.. then there! I will get the money already. or really pest them to pay.
@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
21 Nov 10
Well, to each is own. Its just that we cannot be so nice all the time with people who does not have any word of honor.My way of getting my money back may not be as nice. But then, what he is doing is not also good. I have lent him money already, he must also do his turn by paying me up when he said he will. You see, I maybe nice, but I am no saint. Atleast, after getting my money my way, then, I can finally forget everything about us, good or bad. And I wont whine already about him not paying me up.
Since you are still complaining about the money he still is not paying, maybe you should think of asking for it the hard way. You cannot be mother theresa all the time or you will always be taken advantaged of. Either get the money from him directly by demanding it.. or.. not whine about it anymore and forget about the money. Coz I do not think he will be paying anymore.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Thanks friend. We only ask him the money when he can pay for us. as you can see my comment before, you can understand me. Well, you way of get money back is not good. I will not do that dear. I just forget and don't contact to him.
@aeiou78 (3445)
• Malaysia
21 Nov 10
I think it should be a good news for you. You described your wife's friend as he and it should be a man.
Won't you jealous your wife whom was so good with another man?
ha! ha! ha! My parents did have the same experience as you.
Because of Money matters, they lost their good friends.
From the past lessons, I am not going to lend or borrow money from my friends anymore.
If I really can not avoid lending money to my friends, I shall lend them a small sum of money. Those money should not be assumed returnable.
I shall do the charity because of friendship.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
22 Nov 10
Well, dear. I am not jealous. When he ask my wife for this money, my wife ask me about that. We decide to give him immediately because We know he had difficult. Even he had a wife and a good boy, why am I jealous?
@deewaker72 (50)
• India
20 Nov 10
hi phong,
i think your wife did wonderful job. I did that once when my friend deny to pay me. You have to understand that if anybody is your friend then he/she have to pay money on time. If he is not paying money it means he is not respecting your friendship or just using friendship for this purpose in both cases he is not a right person to continue friendship.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Thanks for understand and cheerful me dear. I see, if we are a friend, we should explain when we can't keep promise with our friends. So that, our friends can sympathetic us and keep a good relationship! Because friendship always noble than money!
@JudgeIronFist (2472)
• Singapore
20 Nov 10
I'm exactly in the same situation. 2 months ago, I lent some money to a friend whom I knew for about 5 months. It wasn't much also, $231. He told me that he wanted to use it to pay for his electricity bills as the electricity is going to be cut off soon. So I lent him. He promised to return it on the 12th of that month. However, delays and delays, he still hasn't returned to me. I've reminded him many times and recently, he went to settle his father's matters, which was very complicated, even I don't want to say it. He told me again, on the 29th of this month, he'll pay me back.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Well, I think that you may wait for 29th of this month, because he really get trouble these day, maybe he can pay for you at that time. Anyway, he have told you why he can't pay for you!
@pro134 (45)
• China
20 Nov 10
it haven't happened to me yet, if it comes,i don't know how to do.there are words :"if you want to break a friendship, just lend money to your friend."well, maybe you should take his finance into consideration, if he has money and doesn't want to pay back, the end of friendship will come soon. but we all do not hope so, that is awful.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Yes, sure. We don't want to end a friendship because of money. That's awful friendship. But, life is that. Thanks for your response. Have a good day mate!
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
If a friend borrowed money from me and never paid back, then he's never really a friend in the first place. I'll hunt his @ss and run him down and turn him to roadkill.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Your punish is so strong dear. Well, just avoid to make friend with people like that. Because if we do that, we will be put in prison.
@jinjer168 (1596)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
Well, my trust with him will surely diminished or totally gone. In the first place he is the one who came and seek my help, he gives me promise that he will pay on that time so im expecting it already. If he didn't give the money on the exact day he promise, its just okay for as long as he's there and ready to explain why he never gave what he promised. But if he totally forget what he said and keep his distance too as if he's saying that I forget all ive borrowed to you, that's a different thing. Im there, to help you when you need me, I trusted you but if you break our friendship because of money, you're absolutely not welcome to be my friend any more. Have a nice Saturday morning!
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Well friend. Thanks for you response. I am so sad to read at the end of your comment. It make me pretty sad. Maybe, at the discussion I did not say details about this problem. So you misunderstand me. You know, there are some of my friend who borrow me some money and never repay me. But I also make a good relationship with them because I think they don't have enough money to pay me, I think my money is a gift for them. And we are also kind friend now. But this my wife's friend, we know he have a lot of money now, he can buy a new house, a new motor, so we ask him about this little sum of money, why don't he give us a words about that? he really break our heart. Have a good day mate! If you read this comment, do you have a new look at me and make a friendship? Please give me your opinion!
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Dear friend. If my friend lend me some money and tell me that he just can pay me after 1 years. It's will be OK for me. No problem. But he said that he would repay us after a few days but he did not and he don't talk anything about that. What will you do?
@vangie26 (445)
• Philippines
20 Nov 10
The feeling would be at first angry, of course. That's the expected feeling. Have you tried giving him some options of payment like installment? He might be really going through a financial problem, so it would be easier for him to pay through that options. But if you think there really is no way for him to pay, then forget it. Move on and let go and learn from it. Don't be angry, just think that one way or another, you were able to help him on those times that he is in need. God will reward you for that, and he will be punished by not paying too. Have a nice day!
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Thanks dear. Your are so kind friend. You know, we has give him a lot of chance to do it but he don't. He have a lot of good thing now. He got money, new house, new motor....Well, just forget it, it's just a experience for me.
@sanjay91422 (2725)
• India
20 Nov 10
I love straight talkers. If my friend takes money from me and say that he will return it after 5 weeks, then I expect the money from him after 5 weeks. If he delays then I will lose respect for him. But if he says that he can't tell you the exact time of return but he will return it, then the respect is still there.
He didn't tell me a false promise. that is why the person is still a friend of mine.
In your case I think you should talk straight to him to return your money because I think everything can be solved with talks.
Maybe he is having a financial breakdown. Maintain the trust and respect that is very important.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Well, i see dear. At the begin, after a few day, he said he can't pay us. Well, at that time, we have accept his promise and wait for him. You know, it happened for 2 years now. We has talk straight to him a lot of time, but he don't repay even he can repay for us. Seem that we lost this money. It's OK for us. We will make another sum of money! This is just a small discussion about your opinion in this case. Thanks for your sharing!
@celticeagle (165954)
• Boise, Idaho
23 Nov 10
I learned very early in life that loaning people money, no matter what they promise, is not a good idea. It can lead to very bad feelings for the other person and all kinds of problems. Ofcourse we want to help our friends but that is very bad thing to get into the habit of doing. It rarely comes out well.
@dismalgrin (2604)
• United States
21 Nov 10
I hate that, I won't lend money to anyone anymore. It makes me sound evil in some ways but I've had people cry me a sob story about having no gas no rent, no money and they need to borrow 20 dollars for something. I'm poor myself and so that takes a huge chunk of my cash even to help a person out. They always say they are going to pay me back but then they start to avoid me. After some time has passed they start being friendly again like they never borrowed money from me... next thing you know, they want more money. It's a viscous cycle and I have to protect myself and my money because there isn't much. I have started offering actual help to people that want money. If they really need it they will take it. Oh, you can't afford to take your kid to the daycare this week? I'll watch him/her. Lol it's my part to help out, without being down the cash and out the friendship.
@airasheila (5454)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
A pleasant day to you Phong1040572,
Indeed, there are times friendship truly ruins when an amount of money enters into that relationship.
I remember those time when one of my closest friends borrows some money from me. I gave her the option - payable when able - but, to my surprise eventhoug she has the money and has the capacity to repay back her loan to me, she always avoid to discuss it. And when the time, I urgently needs my money back, she shouted on me and told me that, "it was only a small amount and why I could not sleep", and when I heard it, tears slowly drops out from my eyes. Thinking, what I have done wrong to be treated that way. Yes, it was just a small amount, but, during those time, that amount will be a big help.
Since, I give her enough time to pay me, I am thinking, she will remember to repay the money that she borrowed from me. But, she completely avoid doing it.
And now, the friendship that was created and build during those time was completely wreck. I was not angry to her however, situations and consequence teached me to be strong. Experienced thought me. And that, there are some people who really tend not to pay or repay their loan and tend to avoid paying though they are aware that they should.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
I am sorry to hear about your story. We are in the same situation now. Well, I don't know how they think when they avoid to repay our money although they can repay!!!!
@justdroppingby (296)
• Philippines
19 Nov 10
Yeah, owing (or lending) money can be a real relationship-breaker. Somehow things get awkward (especially if it's quite a big amount) and then you stop having the same warm and casual chats you used to. But I think it depends on how you look at it.. is the money owed (or lent) more important than your relationship? I guess you also have to understand the context, i.e., why he hasn't paid up in the first place.
Back in college I lent a friend some money to help pay his tuition. He never got to pay it back, and I was tempted to bring it up whenever we encountered each other, but I just thought hey he must be having money problems still and I don't want to end up nagging him and making him shy away from me. It turns out he didn't forget after all. Couple of months after graduation he did pay me back. Even treated me to drinks while he did so. But I guess it's a different case for different people...just try to investigate why he can't pay yet and maybe remind him (but not in a very nagging manner) in a very subtle way if you find out he has the means to pay you. Hope this helps.
@phong1040572 (672)
• Thailand
21 Nov 10
Well, thanks for your reply. You know, he has bought a new house, a new motor AirBlade. My wife know that so she ask him again about the money. But you know, there was no sign of him yet?
@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
21 Nov 10
Or just.. lend an amount you are willing to loose if the person wont pay anymore. I do that. When someone borrows from me, I will just lend him an amount I can forget about and not whine about when the person wont pay up. Its hard not to loose respect with people not paying up on time. I would rather be given a notice of not being able to pay up for the meantime than disappear from me and leave me thinking if the person still have intention of paying or will disappear forever. Someone asked 10,000.00 from me then, I just offered 500.00. its an amount that if she wont pay up, I can cheerfully forget about it. I was just a student then, so where the heck will I get that amount of money? She disappeared after that.. and we have not seen each other for years now. Had I lent her... what part of the world will I start looking for her then?She borrowed money from my bestfriend then a sum of so small,P20.00. But she did not pay up. Its ok. But if she was not able to pay that from my bestfriend... what more at the amount of P10,000.00? I also took that as a hint with people. If a person could pay back a small amount from you, then you can be complacent that they will have an intention of paying you up a larger amount, but if the person could not give back the small amount.. what more if we are talking about thousands?
@urlstring (62)
• Indonesia
22 Nov 10
i also experienced the same event, even almost 3 years, and the saddest part is that he included one of my cousins, but i try to understand his situation because i know he was exposed after the deception that makes a messy family situation