Here comes the Dream Act again
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
December 8, 2010 9:56am CST
This one just keeps popping back up. I don't see this as helping the problem of illegal immigration. It will just add to it. It add to the number of "anchor babies" in this country...making it harder to kick the parents out of the country. They have to either go to college or join the military to get citizenship. Well lets see what other felonies can people committ and get forgiven for if they go to college or join the military? I am really sorry their parents did this to them. But it is the parents fault not ours. SO therefore when their butts are sitting back in the country they ARE citizens of they can be mad at mom and dad. This just rewards bad behavior. It will also encourage others to come over illegally with their kids and have a way to get them citizenship. This will add to the problem. Not to mention colleges only has so much space..how many US citizen kids won't get in to college that want to because an illegal got the space instead of them?
Illegals should not be able to put their illegal kids into our school systems. That would solve the problem.
What do you think?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/08/dream.act/index.html?hpt=T2
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7 responses
@nzinky (822)
• United States
14 Dec 10
The Dream Act is one of Harry Reid's pets projects, With the idiot in Office do you think its going to go away.......Better think again......He will keep putting this on the list until the American people tell him to get the hell off of it....
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
8 Dec 10
I'm opposed to the Dream Act. Stop the inflow coming across the border...NOW. After that's accomplished, and only after that's accomplished, then we'll begin to address those who are here illegally. But those who are here illegally need to go to the back of the line, not to the front or to not have to get in line at all. And I don't like being threatened by illegals either!
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Dec 10
I agree. Seal off the border BEFORE you start solving the problem of what to do with the ones alraedy here. ALthough I think the solution is to get them to deport themselves. If they can't get jobs, or a place to rent or buy, can't open bank accounts, their kids can't go to our schools and they can't get any social programs than they will leave. Without us having to spend tons of deporting them.
Problem solved.
I don't like them "threatening us" either. heck I don't even like them having mass protests. Who they heck do they think they are trying to preasure our government into doing something for them. It is not their government. It is ours. This is not their country so they don't get a say. Don't like it ....well make us all happy and leave!!
Go hold protests in your own country and make it better for you and your family to work in.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Dec 10
The DREAM ACT looks like it might be up for a vote today (around 4pm) so CALL YOUR represenatives and tell them to vote NO!!!!
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
8 Dec 10
I only wish they'd leave if they can't get work, get aid, etc.; instead, they move from one area (like Arizona) to another which will accept them (like New Mexico) (maybe that will come to an end in January, when our new Governor Suzanna Martinez takes office). Then they'll have to move to California, so we all can pay as we bail out California with our federal tax dollars. I'm with you on this one, LilWonders!
@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
9 Dec 10
The military has qualifications for enlistment. If the military will just stick to its standards, then we should have no problem at all with veterans. From history thus far, the military simply recruits, regardless, and then expect these ex-soldiers (US and foreign) to be history. Not so!
Facts are: War is not fun and the human mind is often not capable of dealing with certain acts of violence involved with war. If a life is offered as a sacrifice for a nation, then we must make sure that such a person is looked after, regardless of any discovery.
Therefore, I believe that a person who has served a nation in any military capacity, should automatically qualify as citizen of served nation. If a person was good enough to be sacrificed for a nation, the same person ought to be good enough for citizenship, regardless of immigration status. A veteran is distressed should not have to worry about food or shelter or health care.
@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
10 Dec 10
I get you. However the military has been recruiting people later proven not qualified for the military. I support the current proposal made by president Obama for this reason. If the military messed up and sacrificed these people not qualified, then it was the military's fault and these people should not be denied full benefits after having served the nation.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
10 Dec 10
Well if that person KNEW they were not qualified and lied to the military in order to join than no they should not get services or citizenship. They lied. We should not reward bad behavior. Also the military should get into MAJOR trouble for not double and triple checking BEFORE they allowed the person to join.
I see both sides are wrong and at fault. The person who lied to sign up and the military for not caughting it quicker. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
9 Dec 10
Ummm...the military should not be able to enlist illegals. If people want to be citizens of this country...fine..I am all for it...but come here legally. Immigration is NOT A RIGHT.Nor is citizenship to this country if you were not born here. It is a privilege. Just because you WANT to come to this country or any country does not mean you get to. Just because you want to be a citizen does mean we have to let you get it. We have rules and law in place for it. We also have a process with procedures. If you can't or won't do it the right way...don't come.
Which also means...don't enlist in our military. Now our military does take legal immigrants who are going through the process of being citizens. They can enlist and the military will help them get their citizenship. But that is only for the ones who came here the right way or did not abuse the visa system.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
9 Dec 10
It was supposted to have been voted on by both houses yesterday. But the house got to it really late last night so congress will take it up today. Yep it passed the house. Here's to hoping it WON'T pass congress. CALL YOUR REPS!!
@ddzdvd (361)
• United States
9 Dec 10
a little real truth.the latinos have all of south america,all of central america and mexico.now that is alot more land than we have.every country south of the rio grand is a peice of crap country and they are all spanish.my question is why do people now want that here??why does anyone even listen to these invaders?and one more question,just what would make you take up arms to defend your country,your customs and your heritage.where do you draw the line?are you not tired of being called RACIST in your own country by invaders?i am curious just what would make you ready to fight to get your country back? corrupt gov.? high taxes?invasion from no border inforcment?racially motivated attacks?your bill of rights morphed into bill of permits?your money stolen from you by bank and wallstreet con jobs?when does it become justified to stand up and fight and not with words but action?
@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
8 Dec 10
Expected from the American Government.
Simply wrong nothing else really needed to be said.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Dec 10
I agree. I feel sorry for the kids...but their parents did this to them...not us.
@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
8 Dec 10
I am surprised they are trying to make an act for it...already happens so much in Georgia. There was an exact case about this on the News couple months back and the college board actually decided to let her finish her education here...she wouldn't have an education here if her parents didn't sneak across anyway.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
8 Dec 10
Which means we need to take that incentive away. If they can't the benefit when they come here illegally then they won't do it.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
12 Dec 10
I have been arguing endlessly on the Whitehouse face book page about this. It's proponents keep claiming that the "new version" of the bill takes out the section that allows for these students to receive education grants...yet none can produce a version that doesn't have that in it. Every version I have found, including what looks to me to be the most recent version, has this in it and I will not support any version that has this in it. The CBO is claiming that this bill will actually gain the U.S. money...yet it doesn't take financial aid in to consideration in it's formula.
Other arguments I hear are that it isn't the fault of these kids, they were brought here as kids illegally by the parents and that we shouldn't punish the kids for the sins of the parents. Ok, I can almost agree with that. So, on that note, put a stipulation in the bill that requires the parents of these kids (once 18 years old) to be voluntarily deported. If the parents truly care and want the kids to attend college or join the military and receive citizenship under the Dream Act, they would gladly do this, right?
The other issue I have with it is that there is no mechanism built in to the bill to verify that these kids were actually already here when the bill passed. It's passing will likely bring a flood of families over the border hoping to get their kids citizenship and all the other benefits under the bill and there will be no way to verify this one way or the other.
I am all for someone earning citizenship through military service. It seems to me to be the most honorable way to do this. However, we already have such a mechanism for people to do this...so this part of the bill is redundant.