Hubert Webb is acquitted
By TheAdvocate
@TheAdvocate (2392)
Philippines
December 13, 2010 10:50pm CST
After thirteen years of languishing in jail, the Supreme Court finally acquitted Hubert Webb et al of murder charges. The Supreme Court questioned the credibility of the witnesses and the evidence failed to prove their guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
I have mixed emotions about this case. I followed this case very carefully at that time, short of watching the movies made from this tragedy (I have to draw the line somewhere). It was a telenovela of sorts at that time - imagine children of scions of the society were tried and convicted of committing a heinous murder. These boys were publicly condemned because they were known addicts and were frequently picking fights. Although I believe in justice, I also thought that it was karma for these boys. Even at that time, I was doubtful of Alfaro's credibility. Until now I cannot understand how that case was won by prosecution. Were they crucified by public opinion?
At the same time, I pity Hubert Webb et al because they lost the best part of their lives. I also pity Vizconde who is now wondering who killed his family.
Was justice served today? Do you believe that Webb et al are truly innocent? Was there some hanky-panky that went on? Or was the conviction in the lower courts railroaded? Let's discuss.
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12 responses
@louierrific24 (1114)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
That's something that makes the Philippine justice system "more than the usual" (reference to the DOT slogan way back), trial by publicity!
Do I believe that they are innocent? It's a tough call, the decision isn't majority (correct me if I'm wrong)and the justices were divided. Well, my early memories of the Vizconde massacre were the video footage of Hubert Webb playing in the snow.
Back to your question, I still trust the justice system.
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@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
It's a majority decision because four justices inhibited themselves.
Your statement that its trial by publicity caught my attention. From the start, this was one case that everyone seemed to be passionate about. Everyone had an opinion and most were based on what they heard people say. I often heard people say "I had a friend who lived in Paranaque and he said that Webb did it." Everyone from Paranaque became experts in this case. Because of this, nobody was surprised when he was convicted - even the Webbs were ready with his jail provisions that same day. But you have to admit that he was acquitted after the Webbs went on a media blitz on their side of the story. The last few weeks I saw the case discussed on television. Finally people listened to what they were saying all along - Hubert was not here. I wonder why people did not listen at that time but are now willing to hear him now.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
The SC Justices en banc decisions or votes is 7-4 for acquittal and 4 abstained or inhibited. In other words it is not a majority vote of the en banc, its a minority vote. A majority vote should be 8. Technically, the acquittal of the accused are invalid or still pre-matured according to the rule of law of our constitution.
A lot of our law students and some of my friends practicing law are now having a lot of questions and some are so confused....
What is happening to our justice system? What happened to democratic way of our justice system?
@frenzylady (518)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
Hello TheAdvocate! This is really a delicate issue and I for one was able to watch the news from the start of the Vizconde massacre. I am saddened for the loss of Mr. Vizcond however, I cannot possibly give opinion though if Hubert and his gang did it or not. For now, my sympathy is with Mr. Vizconde and I hope justice was served somehow.
@rsa101 (38148)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
I seem not surprised with the results because I know Justice Carpio is with the SC justices and he was really supported the Webb's during the court hearings. I think he even served as witness to the family to support their case. Now that Justice Carpio is now SC Justice he could easily influence his fellow justices to support him from being acquitted.
Well I hope that the others are still left in prison as I do not see them as appealing from the higher court to be acquitted as well. This is the only thing that Lauro could hold on to that there are still persons left in prison for justice for her slain family.
@rsa101 (38148)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
Yeah so sorry I misread the news and I thought it was only Hubert that was acquitted. I really feel sorry for Lauro who was either misled here or is taken off his Justice for her family. It seems that now the accused becomes the victims here because of the lack of evidence and everything. After passing through the lower courts up to the court of appeals Lauro's case was upheld to be correct and valid but then here comes the SC which overturned everything upside down and looks like Lauro here was taken off the justice that they wanted for his departed family members.
The accused can live their lives freely once again and they could easily blend in with society as they are all belonging to the upper class of society. It would not be hard for them to live their lives comfortably.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
Officially, Justice Carpio inhibited himself from the case. I understand that there has been a lot of talk about him lobbying for this case, but in fairness to him, no evidence has been presented to support this except the pained accusations of Vizconde. I understand his feelings, and he is merely looking out for his family.
Actually romzz is right. All the accused who were tried with Hubert were acquitted. The theory of the prosecution rested on Hubert's participation, thus, they benefited from his acquittal. There are 2 accused though who never surfaced but were indicted with them.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
Supreme Court Spokesman ordering acquitting Hubert Webb with other accused is illegal and unconstitutional!
Spokesman said that the decisions of the Judges (for 15 members of SC Justices) are 7-4 and 4 are abstained, meaning it is not a majority vote to acquit the accused. There should be 8 votes, which is according to the constitutions.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
Logically obviously it is not a total majority vote, because we have an unfairly abstained votes. Majority vote should have 8 votes for 15 members of SC Justices. My goodness! This is a very special historical celebrated case to have abstained votes. It only means our SC Justices are bias at all on their judgments and doubts to our own judicial and democratic systems.
Under Article 8: Judicial Department.... Section 4 Paragraph 3....
http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/loveacec/ThePhilippineConstitution.html (English)
http://www.seasite.niu.edu/Tagalog/ang_1987_konstitusyon_ng_republi.htm#ARTIKULO%20XIII (Tagalog)
I think that's the Article, because I can't really recall the actual Article they referring to. I got these information on GNN (A Destiny's cable news channel owned). Together with my brother, his classmate (both are law students at San Beda) and with us their Law Professor watched the special segment at GNN (because of the Webb and others acquittal report of the SC Spokesperson on that day). On that presentation is a debarred lawyer Atty. Alan Paguia (now a prof. in Ateneo), he explained the technicalities of SC Justices votes which is accordingly to what the Spokesperson had reported a "Majority Vote" but according Atty. Paguia is not a minority vote. Logically obviously, it is really a minority vote of all the 15 Justices members of the Supreme Court. There should be no abstained votes at all. Hence, this a very historic and a very important case to have an abstained votes. If the acquittal, won a so called majority vote so why we have abstained votes?... The answer, because, the Justices still have doubts to acquit those accused.
Take note..... Just yesterday, the SC Spokesperson said "Acquittal does not mean innocence" .... (Prior to that Senator Cayetano said that also).... Why the SC stated that? Answer, to clear-up what they have said a so called Majority Votes with still doubts to acquits. So, for now it clears-up that those who have acquitted has still the burdens to prove that they are still innocents and Jessica has lied. If not?.... I don't know what will happen then after... abangan na lang ang susunod na kabanata.... God have mercy on us all.
Anyway, I think Hubert Webb will get mad if he watched local tv soap operas. Because Mara Clara is still not yet ended. hehehehehehhe..
@Ritchelle (3790)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
makes you not proud to be a filipino, right? i feel like this. they say there is a reason for everything and everything happens for the greater good so i guess heaven has a reason.
if you come to think of it no matter what the court did decide no right-thinking people would try to forge anything genuine with this guy. he'd rather wish he didn't get out unless otherwise he gets out of the country. but if ever he starts a new life abroad the story of the crime he was involved in and the tendency for the philippine courts and justice system to be as bad as how the first species of humans look then he still wouldn't stand a chance for a new and better life. he already dug his own grave. however he tried to roll the dice and got lucky. but he didn't know he dug his grave all again.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
We may have had bad experience in this country, but there are still people out there who do their best "for us to be proud of our race". so, my opinion is that, this incident can't afford to let us down. we have more than 80 million FIlipinos and more than 20 million accross the globe, am sure one of them isn't like these criminals.
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@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
15 Dec 10
@ ritchelle: That's exactly what I told my mother when we were watching the news. Hubert et al will have this mark on them forever, and people will talk about it for the rest of their lives. I don't know what to feel about this - on one hand, if they did not commit the crime, then I pity him. But if he did, then its karma.
@LK: I agree, these people are not representative of the Filipinos.
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@angeline1 (144)
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15 Dec 10
I heard this news yesterday.I feel sorry for Mr. Vizconde.He didn't get justice to his family or didn't know who kill his family.All of the family are happy because all their sons was acquitted yesterday.This is the best gift that they ever received. But the Philippine government is the same as before.
@yuna15 (2706)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
I think it's a big hanky-panky! No I do not believe they are innocent. The media is sensationalizing the issue too much even GMA 7! Even of they took the opinion of both sides. I am very saddened for Lauro Vizconde. It must be a heartbreak for him. Although I pity the family of Hubert Web however, as a parent, if I was in their place, I would have believed anything that he would say. Why? Simple answer answered by a question, who wouldn't have believe them but because of their love for their own son/daughter?
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
In fairness, the Supreme Court merely said that the prosecution failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they committed the crime. There was no declaration of innocence. If anything, this was a result of the law enforcement's ineptitude. They should be the one condemned.
I agree that a parent would defend his child to the bitter end -look at Marlene Aguilar. But even if that were true, that Hubert lied to his parents and the Webbs accepted it at face value, the documents presented were just too many that I think entitled them to believe their child. I would have agreed with you totally if they did not produce evidence other than the say-so of Hubert.
@eileenleyva (27560)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
Advocate, it is just like a midsummer night's dream, or nightmare if you please, when things are not what they are, and deception pervades the senses. Those overgrown boys were guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
How so? I am curious about the basis of people for believing or disbelieving the verdict. This issue will not die, and the decision will haunt us forever. I guess even if Hubert was acquitted, he will live with the knowledge that people don't buy his alibi. This cloud of doubt will be with him for the rest of his life.
@lipstick2009 (1236)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
I have to be honest..but i really didnt expect they would be acquitted. They say if theres a smoke, theres a fire. Maybe money talks too. And yes you are right, nobody can and will escape karma.
I wont have a headache trying to figure out what , why ,how or whatever.The bottomline is, there was a pretty lady ganged raped and brutally murdered together with other ones.And if i was Webb's family, would i do everthing in my power to find who is the real culprit cause that would surely clear Hubert?
Well, they were acquitted...what else is there to talk about.Would it matter anyway.:(
@chipesterkhan (2925)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
not that i side with hubert webb, but i believe he was tried by public opinion.
they were crucified in public even before they were actually in court.
and the movies (2 if i remember correctly) further drove the nail into his coffin. The philippines is probably the only country that has movies serving as evidence of crime.
sheesh.
if he is guilty though and he just managed to manipulate events and facts then may he burn in hell
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
15 Dec 10
I agree, he was publicly vilified at that time. He was branded an addict and rabble-rouser and everyone believed the story of Jessica Alfaro. People who watched the movie believed everything in the movie (I was not one of them!). Even at that time, I felt that he was going to be acquitted eventually because let's face it, his evidence was really convincing. Why would a US embassy official agree to testify if the document was not authentic? It feels like karma to me (sorry, I'm so bad today).
@jornz87 (139)
• Philippines
14 Dec 10
hubert webb and the rest of the accused are certainly not pitiful.they are just the proof that our justice here is not reliable, unfair for it is only for powerful people like them not for ordinary people.our juries and and judges are worth nothing but just for display. better for them to be killed as well as the accused.
@CaptAlbertWhisker (32694)
• Calgary, Alberta
14 Dec 10
I was 4 years old when Vizconde massacre happened and I remember this event is adapted into 2 movies. This is like the most sensational crime in our country. I am not God to say whether Hubert Webb is guilty or not. If he is not guilty most likely he did wasted 2 decades of his life. I felt bad for Lauro Vizconde because his family never had justice.
So is Hubert really innocent?
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
The SC decision did not really answer your question. What the SC is saying is that the prosecution failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Webb et al committed the heinous crime. Only God can truly say if he is innocent or not. In short, the prosecution is inept, so says the highest court.