Negative rate? What the *****?!!!!
By shattered
@shattered (1728)
Philippines
December 15, 2010 8:20pm CST
Damn! Some people are so full of themselves! Giving negative ratings to people who gave an honest opinion on a topic they started! We are just trying to discuss here you can't answer my response with 2 paragraphs and give me a negative rating! The fact that it gave you that much text to response is because my response made sense!
The negative rate is for responses that do not further the discussion! Not responses that counter yours! If you do not want opposition please for the love of everything that is holy DO NOT START ONE!
This is really a pain! I'm sorry for ranting, I heard about this from other but never really experienced it until now! Damn! I am so p*ss*d!
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9 responses
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
16 Dec 10
It is unfortunate that members do not understand the rating system as the negative should not be used even in opposing responses. As the guidelines specifically state that members should not used this simply because a member does not agree. Unfortunately members do this and what happens in the long run is that their own rating as well drops as the guidelines are very clear in stating this as well.
The system is developed to detect when members are utilizing it incorrectly. I do know how you feel as mine goes up and down daily and well it makes me dizzy, I try not to let it get me down as there really is nothing we can do outside of informing myLot in the event it drops drastically where as they can find out if you are being trolled.
Negative should only be used when members are intentionally rude and or abusive which at this point negative rating as well as reporting must be done. I have been in several discussions were new members think it is cute to say if they do not like a response not only will they negative rate but tag the discussion as a bad response. See the logic in this my friend..NOT!! As how on earth would anyone find a discussion if it is tagged as bad response... UGH
At any rate, I will (+) you on this one and hope you can go back soon, Sorry you are experiencing this and know you are not the only one as so many of us experience this daily.
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@rberon1985 (5359)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
hi hardworkinggurl;
i am giving you also a positive rate on this response.maybe if i am the initiator of this discussion,i will mark you as best response because you have discuss here the importance of negative ratings.it will not really be use if a member gives an opposing opinion on the discussion.he/she express his/her feelings about the topic.we should learn how to appreciate it as what i have mention on my response above.negative ratings should only be given to members who violates the guidelines of the sites,and for those members who are rude.as i am always repeating this line"this site is not for you, if you are not an open-minded person"happy mylotting!
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@rberon1985 (5359)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
i became very eager to respond to a discussion if there is an opposing opinion.it only means to say that the two of us has different point of view in life.but in the end, we get to agree in one thing.we get to combined the information that he/she had with the information that i have.
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@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
16 Dec 10
Thank you rberon as you have stated it well. I am one who totally re-reads opposing responses to any of my discussions as I am one that is so open minded that sometimes I do like to look at things from others perspectives.
I can honestly say that a member use always oppose every single discussion I have ever made, it got me to think one day that some of the members responses truly made sense and guess what we are great myLot respectful friends.
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@rberon1985 (5359)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
Actually, it is so sad that those members do not know how to appreciate great responses.they do not know how to accept criticisms.if you do not want to receive negative comments,you should not initiate a discussion.you should be ready on what they have to say.this is a site that is open to give your opinions and feelings about te topic.whenever i received negative comments from my post,i don't give negative rating,there are some instances that i mark it as best response.
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@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
16 Dec 10
Exactly rberon you are one who knows that guidelines stipulate that even an opposing response makes for a great discussion. (+) to you my friend for a great response.
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@mtrguanlao (5522)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
I might as well not rate it at all to make it nuetral,I do it most of the time.
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
16 Dec 10
@mtrguanlao it does get a bit confusing but really the negative button should never be used unless a member is being intentionally rude and or abusive.
But I like to positive members as when I have to select one best response but then you have many others with great responses I feel that positive helps the members rankings.
If everyone felt they should never positively rate then new members would never achieve a ranking.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
16 Dec 10
I couldn't understand why some people are mean enough to rate others negatively. To be honest I rarely use the negative rating here as I appreciate people taking their time responding to my discussions as this is their supports are what I needed most to make my discussions effective. Regardless of how the person respond, be it agreeing or disagreeing with me I have to be neutral and accepts their views with open mind and never apply the negative rating that would jeopardize their reputations. But looking at my own reputation and ranking I have received some unfavorable ratings as my reputation remain static for a long time now.
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
Yeah zandi, I'm really at a quandary why someone would negative rate a person who gave his/her discussion some sense with the effort given to respond. And opposing views actually lead to better discussion.
I guess it happens to everybody. I should just be careful from now on.*sigh*
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
16 Dec 10
Shattered-
I know all too well just what you are speaking about and it is very sad indeed. I am hoping that Mylot administration will perhaps create another way in which to rank people so that it is not based upon "name". Perhaps at some point they may figure out how to have free reads which contain no notation of who wrote the article so that we can judge based upon quality and not who they are.
However, as it is, all one can do is report to Mylot administration when they feel that perhaps they were ranked unfairly or out of a disagreement, rather than on the quality of the post. Sometimes such brash actions occur out of fear and for that we can feel compassion for the one who feels so threatened as to lash out like a wounded animal.
Guidelines do state that those who repeatedly rank others negative, or perhaps rank one person's work all negative will feel the brunt of such actions but that is something that I doubt very much any of us would see first hand. We can only go on faith that such actions would be taken care of as pointed out in the guidelines.
Continue to keep writing and the more volume you have perhaps the fewer the occurrences will be of negative ranking.
Namaste-Anora
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@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
Thanks for the advice anora.
I do hope myLot can upgrade the rating system. But that is a long shot.
I do hope people have an open mind and understand that discussions are meant to have opposing views. And that such opposition would further the discussions.
I will continue to work with myLot but I would also be staying away from people who cannot take a contradicting point.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Dec 10
Hello Shattered,
That is exactly I am more careful in making discussions now more than ever. If you want to start a fierce discussion, believe me, there's going for a fierce debate.I don't know which discussion that made you have lower points in you're star. but remind you, that NO ONE can see who rates you and Anonymity is mostly practice here.
Some mylotters doesn't really care about the ratings or the star, just wanted to talk. and it doesn't matter if it's costing their star.so, you outta be careful making topics. most specially when regards to making topics in religion, politics and about Philippines and it's politics.
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@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
I have started to narrow down my interest and am staying away from discussions that affect other peoples egos. Its just not worth my time and my effort anymore.
I would like a healthy debate, I believe that is what mylot is for. But having opposing views is not a reason to give a negative rating. At the very least if you cannot give a positive, be neutral, right?
But yeah I will stop arguing with people who cannot take an answer that is in opposition to their belief.*sigh*
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@tedifa (1232)
• Indonesia
16 Dec 10
Just be patient my friend,someone who give negative rate i'm sure he didn't realize that you're tried to be honest and maybe he didn't understand about the topic,so forget about him,you can prove your self that you're a good responder or writing some new topic,keep going and still working,good luck..
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
Thanks tedifa. I was being honest and inquisitive as well. He just wanted to hear something that conformed to his way of thinking and could not accept a different view. I've decided to move on, and leave that thread hanging no point wasting my time there!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Dec 10
hi shattered this is what comes when people do not fully read the
information and dos and donts of discussion making, mylot admins
tells us quite clearly do not minus someone because you do not'agree with their point of view. if their discussion was clear andunderestandable and not breaking rules, you do not mark minus because you disagree no never. you just do not do that. It is after all a discussion and will and should bring many varied opinions. I am sorry this mylotter either cannot read the informaition or was just plain mean. You are ri ght if we cannot stand hearing other points of view we should not make a discussion. I love to hear from others takes on things, as often I can learn and you are never to old to keep learning new things.I seldom minus anyone unless the discussion is flaming or insulting someone and then I just report it and leave it up to mylot to decide.but just a moment how do you know this particular person gave uou a negative rating unless they told you? i mean mylot says that when we rate anyone the other person has no idea who rated them plus or mins. they said they have it this way so people will not start mini wars with each other.
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
It was the only discussion I joined that day and received no coments from my previous discussions. And it so happened that I had a different opinion from the originator and my rating dropped the moment he replied to my comment. I monitored it properly and stayed away from other discussions just to be sure.
Hatley you've seen me around myLot discussions for some time and have you ever seen me being rude? More often than not I just agree with a point given by the originator of the discussion and point out my views that may be considered.
I have always tried to have a healthy discussion with myLot members, friends or not. And a good comment will get a positive rating and thats automatic regardless of being a mylot friend or not. I don't give positive ratings to one liners that end the discussion at their reply.
I know its anonymous but we do have a way of monitoring our reps and our discussions.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
•
16 Dec 10
This REALLY REALLY annoys me too!!
I have only ever given one negative rating and that is when a member was being totally nasty and racist to another member.
I have recently got some negative rates because I had a difference of opinion to another member - they asked a question, I answered it and because what OI believed was different from what they believed they started voting negatively and tobe honest being down right nasty to me!
You are so right - if these people are going to get angry like this when your opinion doesn't match theirs they shouldn't ask the question in the first place!!
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@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
It really is annoying. I'm glad that people understand where I'm coming from.
Our opinions though contradicting the originators belief should be given some value right? It expands the discussion, I would understand getting a negative for attacking someone in my posts but I was just trying to present a different view. *sigh* IN any case whats done is done, I've learned form it and will try to stay away from discussions started by similar people.
@marie2052 (3691)
• United States
16 Dec 10
Hi Shattered, it seems to be the way of the the world these days either like what I say or you get rated badly. I have always been sensitive to other people's feelings when replying or talking to them because as a child I had been made fun of so much because of an unusual name amongst other things.
Thank goodness out of high school I could finally get with other groups of people and they would never know my first name as i went by my middle name.
I don't understand why people have to be so cruel. I know I did not raise my 5 children that way.
I had a bout once on here giving my opinion and she got her friends, her friends friends to reply against me.
Then it seemed wherever or whatever I posted she was right behind me digging away.
I notifyed MyLot and they read my writings in discussions and said I had not done anything against mylot rules
But it was so annoying I quit for a couple of years now I dont remember my handle and password, so I am good to go and started over.
I enjoy coming here because I learn from people's thoughts. It gives me perspective on how to view the world overall not just within the confines of my home or town.
Add me if you would like as a friend
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@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
Yeah there are people like that everywhere. I've added you as a friend.
I'm sorry to hear you had to quit mylot once. I did before as well, but not for that reasons and just for about 3-4 months. 2 years is a long time, it must have really affected you. This is really the first time it happened to me thats why I had to react that way
But its all good now that you are back. Stay with open minded people and enjoy mylot once again