Would you mind...
By inu1711
@inu1711 (5285)
Romania
December 30, 2010 3:19pm CST
We just came back from our evening walk. Here it's freezing and we have a little snow, too. So our late evening walk means a half an hour walk in the neighborhood. We don't live in an area with privat houses, there are only blocks of flats and there are a lot of people who live here.
We were two buildings away from home when a lady shouted at us "would you mind take the dog away so I can enter my building?" I was completely shocked, as we were 10 meters away from HER building entrance, and Binne was on leash. I came back to my senses and I asked the lady what did she think Binne would have been done to her, as she was 10 meters away? Then she approached the entrance very affected and while she was opening the door I asked her "did my dog do anything to you?". She muttered a "no" and she entered the building, grumbling.
I can't understand why did she do that, especially that we were already moving in the oposite direction, and Binne didn't even look at her. Those who remember Binne knows that she's a very friendly dog and she doesn't look scary.
When we are on the street we ignore everybody else and I expect everybody else to do the same. Maybe I should have asked the lady first: "would you mind if you ignored us and minded your own business the way we did with you?"
Do you have neighbors like this, who can't live because of you and your dog?
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
30 Dec 10
Some people have a terrible fear of dogs, I never get to upset because I understand how fears have very little to do with the rational part of the brain.
Best to just let this type of thing past by and give thanks that you are not burdened with such a fear. Blessings
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
30 Dec 10
It's very likely that tomorrow I won't remember what we experienced this evening, or, at least, I won't be so much affected by this.
I don't think it was fear what she felt, I do have a neighbor that is terrified of dogs and I know how he reacts. He lives upstairs of us and when he meets us on the staircase, he literally freezes with fear. I feel sorry for him , I tried to help him but he said he can't help himself with this fear of dogs. I understand it's terrible to feel such a fear and I am thankful I don't have any fear.
But this lady wasn't terrified by Binne. I think that if she had been scared she would have waited for us to go away, as we were already walking to the opposite direction. Couldn't she wait a little more until we were far enough for her to feel safe? (in case that 10 meters weren't far enough for her...)
I think she rather wanted to show off, to claim her entrance as if we were interested in it.
@Gameslayer007 (862)
• United States
31 Dec 10
Maybe you will get lucky and run into her again.
Then you could say, "hurry binne it's the wicked dog hating woman, let's get out of here before she tries to turn you into a coat!".
LOL give her something to remember. Who knows it could be a discussion in the future she starts.
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
31 Dec 10
I really hope I won't need to face her again. I enjoy our walks and every experience like this make me regret we haven't moved in the suburbs, to our own house with a yard, when we had the opportunity.
Though I'd like to see her reaction in front of another dog, maybe in front of of a stray dog (as there are dozens of strays around the neighborhood). What would she have done if, instead of us, she met a pack of strays? Whom would she have shouted at?
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
31 Dec 10
Hi there; I do not have any neighbours like this. Mind you my dog is quite small and relatively harmless even to a small bird. I have heard of an instance however where a dog friend of mine was with her pooch and another woman came along with a few pit bulls on leashes, expcept one was not leashed, running amuck and in her direction. Well the girl with the leashed pit bulls happened to stop, right behind my friends parked car that she was heading to. She could not get to her car without getting right close to the woman and her pit bulls. My friend had her dog with her as well.
She had to ask the woman to move along so that she could get into her car. I totally understood where my friend was coming from. The pit bulls, perhaps not at all harmless but much bigger than her dog.
As for the instance of the woman seemingly afraid of your dog, I must say that I wouldn't of thought much more about it myself. Some people have had bad experiences with dog in their past which can result in them being deathly afraid of them. Meanwhile your dog isn't even looking at her and is 10 meters away so does make the handler, being yourself, second guess where this woman was actually coming from. Was she just being rude or was she sincerely afraid.
This instance seems to me to be one that is so trivial, I would of just carried on and forgot it within the second that it occurred. There are much more pleasant things to entertain our mind.
However, one day I was coming home with my tiny dog and she wanted to go say hi to a woman in the parking lot. As I went to approach the woman, following my dog who was leashed, the woman commented "no". I asked "do you not like dogs"? The woman replied "Not really". I asked her if she would mind if I asked why. The woman replied, asking me if she had to.. I was rather floored. In thinking that my small dog is so loving and friendly, well behaved and social, that if someone has a fear of dogs, surely my dog could easily break that in them, if they wanted. Since her response was such, I took my dog along our way and I do wonder about it since as I have seen her but I don't bother to push myself with my dog on her. In fact I go out of my way to avoid her so that she does not have to experience the dog getting too close for comfort.
As a dog handler I respect that some people just do not want anything to do with dogs, no matter the size or breed. I can easily accept that as I am not into other pets than can be domesticated such as tarantulas or rats.
I think that it was most responsible on your part to not have responded verbally with asking the woman if she would mind ignoring you.
Just carry on and enjoy the pleasant walk with your dog.
Happy Tails to you and yours. All the Best for 2011.
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
1 Jan 11
How could anyone be afraid of a dog like yours or mine? I know but there are. I dislike rats with a passion and they are even smaller.
I can understand being unable to back down when someone is pointing a finger at you for something that you are not guilty of. The incident that you have described is one thing but the reaction of the passerby is a total other that is in itself rather mind boggling, I know. Was this the neighbor that you and Binnie sometimes meet on the staircase? If so, I would not waist my precious time that I could other wise be spending with quality with my dog because this person seems rather indifferent himself. It is a bit un-nerving but none the less, life is too short to waist precious time and energy on the questionable reactions of this fellow. So he is afraid of dogs, just accept it and continue enjoying the time out with your beautiful pooch!
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
1 Jan 11
Hello EvrWonder,
I'd like to be so indifferent so I could simply move away from that incident, but this is my nature, I always suffer when somebody blame me and I'm not guilty. I can't help myself.
I can understand when somebody is afraid of a large dog, but how could anybody be afraid of a dog like yours?!
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
2 Jan 11
Oh, I gave up trying to help my neighbor who is afraid of dogs. He is the one who lives upstairs of us, and even if I tried to help him become friend with my dog, I haven't succeeded, so I gave up.
This lady for the other night I haven't met before, and I hope I won't ever meet her again.
@GardenGerty (160642)
• United States
31 Dec 10
I do not have dogs. When I had my sister's dogs I had the opposite problem. They were not really nice dogs, but people would call them over or come up too close to them without knowing them. It is too bad that that lady has had something happen to her that has made her so unreasonably scared of dogs. It was unreasonable fear that made her act that way.
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@GardenGerty (160642)
• United States
1 Jan 11
I know, she should have kept her cool.
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
1 Jan 11
Hello GardenGerty,
You know sometimes it happens the same to me. People who don't know me or Binne come to us and ask if Binne bites. But before I say a word, they already start to pet her, and it's to late to tell them that she doesn't bite, but she jumps (which is also unpleasant). Of course it wasn't the case with the lady from the other night. I feel sorry for her fear, but how am I to blame? If she just waited for us to go, everything would have been OK.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
31 Dec 10
No, all my neighbors have dogs that are bigger than mine..But if I did have one, I think it'd be funny to to run into them on walks just to see their reaction..lol
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
31 Dec 10
Wow, is she did, then she'd be in trouble because whenever my girls hear anyone talk, or even walk by them, they strain, and pull, and bark like crazy..It has gotten so bad I have to crate them whenever a neighbor comes over because unless I allow them to jump up, (The video that explains how to get a dog from jumping up is only good for those who have grabbed their paw, they will still jump on those who have not done the training part,) and if I grab them to hold them back, I can't hear what my neighbor is saying due to their excessive barking. I am fortunate that my neighbor knows about dogs and he realized they just wanted attention and said I could let them go, though I still pinned them if they tried jumping..lol
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
1 Jan 11
Oh, so you still have the jumping problem? I'm sorry the method from the video didn't work for long.
I still haven't decided to work on this problem with Binne. Of course she wants to jump if I meet some friends on street and they stop to have a talk, but she doesn't even look at the people who don't stop near us.
The barking issue is completely new to me, as neither Nera nor Binne had this problem. On the contrary, I rarelly heard Nera barking, and Binne seems to be the same silent dog.
Don't Penny and Ciara bark, too, if you crate them? Or they have the crates into another room?
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
31 Dec 10
They may be bigger than Penny and Ciara, but they surely are not so energetic as your two girls are! I'd like my neighbor to meet you walking the two of them, with one walking in one direction and the other going to another direction. I wonder if she would have the courage to say anything.
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@minx267 (15527)
• Hartford, Connecticut
2 Jan 11
It hasn't happened recently but yes I have had neighbors do this exact same thing and I was very annoyed with them too. I did the same thing as you..
Like, I'm not even near you and my dog hasn't even bothered to look at you.. if you are that afraid of dogs why are you living in a city where there are bound to be hundreds of them.. go hide under a rock... GRRR..
People and their ignorance.. if they took a little time to read up on their fear they would know that a dog that doesn't even look up at you isn't going to care one way or another whether you are coming or going...
I even had one kid (and he was closer to adult really) that threw an egg and hit my dog with it one Halloween as we were down the street from our house.. my big dog yelped and this from a dog that rarely complained of any pain.. really pissed me off. My dogs (at that time.. were well trained) and walked off leash.
So I noticed the kid duck behind a bush after the incident and I said Oh really... we'll see about that.. so I called my dog and we crossed to his side of the street and I called him out.. he stood up and refused to come out from behind the bush and I thought to see what he would do when threatened... so I said come out here so my dog can bite you.. he wouldn't.. but he didn't know that. I said how is it fair that you can hurt my dog and you not give him the same satisfaction. He kept stuttering he didn't do it.. with the eggs right there at his feet. Then I said fine, I'm calling the cops. he ran by me to the front porch and started going in the door..
So I said so you live here then good then I know what address to send them to. Or why don't you send your parents out. He kept stammering and I left him with the notion I was calling the cops.. when I knew that they wouldn't bother coming out for that on halloween when they are probably inundated with calls..
I was so very mad at the injustice of it.. I wished I had an egg in my hand so I could whip at him! I hated that my baby got hurt right in front of me and I couldn't stop it..
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@minx267 (15527)
• Hartford, Connecticut
3 Jan 11
I hear you - I am only 5'1 so I don't generally start arguments as i don't think I can fend of much.. but this kid was the one who would have gotten bit if he had tried anything.. my dog doesn't just go attacking people but he sure as hell would have defended me. (and then the cops would have found him with a carton of eggs and my dog with it all over him.. justified defense on my dog's part. lol)
And he had no idea the kid was the one who just caused him pain from across the street.... I wish I could have taught him to growl on command.. to teach this kid a lesson.. so he's never try that stunt again.
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
2 Jan 11
I know how frustrating it is to see your furry friend being hurt without any rational reason. You were lucky with that boy that he didn't react to your comments. I wasn't so lucky when a teenager sent her German Shepherd to attack my friendly Nera. I had to hit that dog with my foot to stop the attack, and when I asked the boy why did he do that, he hit me over my face with the dog's muzzle. It was a metal muzzle, so I had my nose broken and my ear teared. This was the last violent incident I was in. I won't ever argue with anybody because of my dogs, because I don't know what type of person I should come across and it's better to avoid this kind of incidents.
@Gameslayer007 (862)
• United States
30 Dec 10
The nerve of some people.
I have a large dog that is very lovable and friendly, but at night in the dark he might seem intimidating. We never take him out without a leash and it seems to me that we are the only people that do. It never fails that somebody does't have their dog on a leash and I'll have to stand there with my leashed dog for 5 minutes waiting on them to collect their dog.
It's nice to see someone else with common courtesy. That woman must have something against dogs. You were a lot friendlier than I would have been.
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
30 Dec 10
Hello Gameslayer and welcome to myLot!
I know what you are talking about. I don't like irresponsible owners who walk their dogs without a leash, either. It's irritating especially when the dog seems to disobey each of their commands. I am not bothered if the dog is off leash and he listens to his master's commands.
I wasn't acting friendly, this is the way I am, only that I was shocked by her attitude toward us.
You made me curious, how would you react if you were in my shoes?
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
31 Dec 10
This is something I have never thought about! It is a good reply and if I ever am in the mood for playing this role, I'll use this line. I usually don't like to argue with people because of my dog. I don't want to make them my enemies. I'm afraid I could come accross a mad one who might throw some poison in the neighborhood, to kill Binne.
@Gameslayer007 (862)
• United States
31 Dec 10
LOL
I'll give you the acceptable for family response.
I would probably tell her that I was training a seeing eye dog and ask her if what she thinks about training helper dogs to work less efficiently by taking blind people out of their way so she would be comfortable.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Dec 10
Hi Inu
I am not sure what her Problem was at all, she was out of order
My Neighbours love Gissi lol but they love Animals and I have never come across that one yet
Actually People call him over
The same I love the Dogs in the Neighbour Hood as they are all friendly (exept one, but that is in the past)
I really do not know what her Problem was but you get them everywhere I guess
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
30 Dec 10
We do have neighbors like yours, who call Binne to pet her. The children from the neighborhood are so fond of her, they always enjoy a play session with Binne.
I don't remember if I have seen that lady around, maybe she was new to the neighborhood or she was visiting somebody, I don't know. I just hope we won't meet her again.
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@GreenMoo (11834)
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23 Jan 11
Binne looks like a right killer ;-)
Some people are just plain scared of dogs. Some are just plain prejudiced. We've got our share of people who make fuss about the dogs. Unfortunately, we have a public road bisecting our land so occassionally people come through territory that my dogs consider theirs. There's one woman locally who waves her umbrella at the dogs if they do much as come into sight (which is as their on my land is fairly likely!). Of course, they see this as an act of aggression and therefore start barking at her and getting excited. It doesn't matter how I try to explain to her, she just doesn't seem to get it that she is not improving the situation. The dogs have never harmed her, or even tried to. And if she didn't wave her umbrella at them they would probably have a quick bark then be on their way.
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
24 Jan 11
In the community that you described, I think nobody should fear the dogs that are allowed to run free. Especially if they are on their own property. That lady with the umbrella should only fear the dogs that are tethered all the time as guard dogs. They are supposed to protect the property, they may not be properly socialized and if they don't know you, they might bite you.
Yet, your dogs must enjoy her presence, as there is something new in the peaceful landscape. I think they might say to each other: "Hey, here comes the lady with the umbrella. Let's have fun barking at her!"
@akp100 (13640)
• India
31 Dec 10
I see the picture and i guess its a cute one How can anyone afraid of this one..
May be she don't like dogs !! Well our neighbor are same like that. We having seprate bunglow but we don't having any wall in our ground. So our dogs were used to go their in their side too(just for a walk). And I guess at night dogs are giving security two both houses.. And i have never seen they have bark to them .. But still they have made wall between our ground recently so dogs don't able to go their. Well I don't mind it in fact i am happy that my dogs will not go their.
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@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
31 Dec 10
Unfortunately there are people who don't like dogs and there are also people who are afraid of any dog, no matter how big they are or how cute they look.
You are lucky to live in a separate house, we live in a block of flats and all the neigborhood is full of blocks. Can you imagine how many neighbors we have? Count only 20 apartments in a building, with at least 2 members of the family... It is a higher posibility to find a neighbor who doesn't like dogs.