Don't Force Other People to Like Your Site!
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
Singapore
January 3, 2011 4:52pm CST
In our quest to make money online, we experience and sign up for many writing sites. Some people encounter negative experiences in one site, while give raving comments on another.
Some people have their articles rejected and continue to be rejected by some writing sites, and finally gave up. Do you expect these people to give it a second look? Of course, we can give suggestions and provide encouragement, but it has to be done with a gentle approach and not forcing it down people's throat.
We all have different goals. Different writing sites provide that. What works for you may not work for others. Let them try and experience for themselves. Some people don't even want to give it a second look because they have found something better.
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@sirnose (2436)
• United States
3 Jan 11
I would never force anyone to like a site that I promote or recommend. The problem I think is that some people believe that writing is a simple task to perform and their right in a way but the trouble comes when they have to use the correct spelling and grammar this is what kills most people hopes of succeeding as a writer.
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@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
You are right, sirnose!
When you say that writing is not a simple task. Although having correct spelling and grammar is very important in writing, it is secondary to the thoughts and ideas you have in your head that you are dying to express. In fact, if you write a book, your editor can do those things for you.
When writing online, I must say that we have to responsible for our own writing, including spelling and grammar. Everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes it's the way we correct their mistakes, gently or harshly. Sometimes THAT kills a persons desire to be a writer, even when they have a lot of potential.
@derek_a (10873)
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4 Jan 11
I would say that writing for the Internet is a little different to writing for mags etc. off line. Articles need to be structured differently - usually with short paragrpahs using as few words at possible. People looking a large amounts of text on the screen can be put off and leave the article, if not the site. I would say never give up, because the people on the Internet who read what you want, will teach you from their comments, what you need to know to get some success. _Derek
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi Derek, my man,
You have always been so positive! I don't normally give up a site, unless I have given it a second look. And when I have given it a second look, and it's still not my cup of tea, that's when I have to weigh whether it's going to be worth my time. We all have different goals and objectives in mind. Not everyone has the time to sit in front of the computer, writing and editing all day. We have jobs to do and households to take care of, thus it is a matter of how much time you have for your online writing.
It's true that the comments provided by my readers have been valuable. They have taught me lots of things. Keep them coming, peeps!
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@derek_a (10873)
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5 Jan 11
Thanks Sydney.. I find it better to look at the cup as half-full and not half-empty. If we can change our focus, we can change our mood. It's not easy but I don't think life it meant to be that way a the struggle does strengthen us, wherever we may happen to be struggling. Yes, I know what you mean about jobs and households to take care of. I guess I am lucky now being older and only two of us left in the house, so we do get through it together, then there is work.. gets in the way sometimes, so I just need to work around work! Have a great 2011... _Derek
@calajane (1003)
• Poland
8 Jan 11
I am a very contradictory person and if someone really, REALLY wants me to like their site and join it and write for it... Well I do the complete opposite. I ignore the site and even if months later I stumble upon it again, I'm very unlikely to join.
I don't know why people get so insistent. I mean if somebody asks me where I earn money, I'm going to share, but I'm not going to start pestering them to OMG JOIN!!!!! because what do I care how they earn, if they earn at all...
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
9 Jan 11
i'm not sure if reverse psychology works for you. Hehe! It's true that repeated pestering may put off other people. I happens to me sometime. If it is something I'm interested I may take a look at it. But people earn differently on the same site. So, your earnings may be here but mine is elsewhere.
@sender621 (14893)
• United States
4 Jan 11
There;s nothing you can say or do to make someone like your site. It is a choice that everyone must make on their own. You can't force someone into your own opinions. let them decide for themselves.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
yes, it's true that everyone has to decide for themselves which sites they prefer working on. When asked to give suggestions, it is important to provide a fair account of what that site is about, giving both its positive features and its setbacks. In that way, the other party can make an informed choice.
But there are others who give praises to the sites they like, and condemn others at the same time. It's pretty obvious that the site I like may not work for that person, while the site he/she is on does not work for me. It's that simple. Don't force others to like yours.
@alwayzzcitra (1861)
• Indonesia
4 Jan 11
Well, all writers face rejection. But it shouldn't be the reason to give up (if they really serious in writing, of course). I don't like rude critics either, it's called trolling, not motivating at all. I personally would give advises (if being asked), but I would only point on the article, not the writer, such as:
"Your article will be a lot better if more description are provided on the second paragraph"
Instead of "You confuse the readers by not adding description on the second paragraph"
See the difference?
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi Citra,
It's true that all writers face some of rejection in one way or another. I don't give up on a site easily unless I do find that it is not worth my time. The other thing is that I will even give that site a second look, since I may have heard that many writers have earned money from them. I'd be curious and determine what I'm missing out. But if that still does not work after a second look, then I will give it up and leave the site. Sometimes it's not even about me leaving the site, the site left me...
Sorry, Citra that all these sounds like ranting. I agree that there are gentler ways to correct a person's mistakes. Some people are so discouraging when it comes to writing, as if theirs are the best around, as if their writing is perfect!
@alwayzzcitra (1861)
• Indonesia
5 Jan 11
Oh, you're free to rant, that's why we're here . I believe in what you said and it's ridiculous how some people think that they are the best writer in the world.
Well, I myself haven't encountered to one (yet), but if I were in that situation, I'd just ignore them. Don't get me wrong, I am open to all construtive criticism, but if it's rude, screw them
You're not alone, I've been on and off different sites, and there some of them that I hate
Are you talking about TRiond?
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
4 Jan 11
Hi SudneyHazelton
I am sure that there has been some bad incident that you witnessed here at MyLot. I agree with you here that there should be no such thing as forcing down anything on anyone. If anyone has anything to put across it must be done in the polite way.
Well, now that the thing has been done, I can suggest you to point it out to the admin and they sure would help.
But, would you mind sharing or hinting a bit more in detail what had led you post this? You can reach out to many on the discussions no doubt but I think you should also mention the reason why you feel hurt so deep.
Have a great time.
theSids.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi sid,
I was not happy with a discussion put up by someone who wants to garner the support of people who have given up on a site. You can easily check this out on your own. i shall not mention names.
This person raves about the sites he/she writes for, but condemns other sites in the process. You have to give a fair comment. You have to write why you like your site and give a fair account why that site may not be for everyone. Not just say that X is better than Y, just because I'm earning more on X than Y.
But all in all, "to each his own" and whatever makes you happy, go for it.
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@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
4 Jan 11
You are absolutely right. You can never force anyone to like your site, you can also please anyone's taste of what they like or not. Everyone has their opinion, maybe good or bad, positive or negative. What to do is to be open minded and take note of any constructive criticism so that such are to be take as a room for improving your site.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
that's true! Everyone has different tastes and for whatever reason, the site you are recommending may not be the one a person likes due to negative experiences the person had with the site's management or the other members.
I don't normally take things personally. I know that I have lots of room for improvement when it comes to my own writing.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
4 Jan 11
Hi there,
Sure that many people are signing up for different sites for different purpose and most of them are money related.
I too am writing article for a couple of sites. I like that but I can not ask other to like it too. All have their own priority and interest. And putting leg on their way is not ethical.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi there,
Many of us are seeking ways to earn money online. We have set for ourselves different goals and we have a given time for our online activities. Some of us may be working while others not. So it depends on your priorities. If you are solely writing and do nothing else, there may be a lot of things you can do. You can write and edit, check our grammar books for mistakes, all day long.
But for most of us, we have a job to keep up and writing online is a side income, albeit an important one. It is important that one test out a site others suggest, read their T&C and decide for themselves whether it will generate the kind of income they are looking for in that site. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work... *shrug*
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi Sdyney, I thought you are going to talk about personal blogs or websites.
I think the same reasoning applies.
Some mylotters keep on pestering others to check out their blogs or their articles in certain websites.
I think if they learn the seo techniques well, they can enjoy better earnings and traffic coming from search engines.
I think some people are eager to promote a certain website since they can gain from the referral program.
People like us are too quiet, that is why we do not have much referrals in Triond.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi scheng,
Learning the SEO technique is definitely going to help people to enjoy better earnings and more traffic. I totally believe in this!
You are right! Maybe these people just want to get more referrals. Let me check if it is true for this case..
I'm really lousy at getting referrals at Triond. I know that it can add to my earnings, but I'm very selective when choosing my referrals too. They have to be passionate about writing. If they are not, they will sign up but become inactive. So what's the point?
@macdingolinger (10386)
• United States
4 Jan 11
Yeah, it's kind of "to each his own" in a writing sort of way. When you find what works for you - you just work it!! But that doesn't mean it will work for the other guy! Hopefully we can all be happy with what we decide for ourselves!
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
HI mac,
You are absolutely right when you say "to each his own". There are sites that work for me, while it may not work for many. When asked about the sites I like, I do caution others that it is not as simple as mere writing. There is more to it, and if you are not a certain type of person, the site may not work for them.
What I'm irate about is that some people feel that the site they are promoting is the perfect one, or better than any others. Even when I have bad experiences with a particular site, I may even suggest it to others.
I would say that so-and-so manage to earn a lot from it, maybe you can contact him/her to find out more about this site. I don't only promote the sites I like. But there are people who dismiss other sites as terrible, while theirs is the best! Sorry, but I don't buy that.
@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
4 Jan 11
Yes, i agree with you on that.
We at Mylot, having felt to be one big family, recommends only those that we have experienced to be good sites. However, if those recommended ones , don't feel good on those sites, they could very well back out or just simply be inactive.
I for one, wants the best for everyone here at mylot and i hope i share the same feelings with you guys.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Hi SimplyD,
It's here in mylot that I learn about many different sites that make money. And it's here that we share with others how we feel about a particular site. Whether one site is better than another, is simply based on that person's opinion. You have to provide your reasons, for others to judge whether it is justifiable to say so.
@FriendlyGirl777 (108)
• United States
4 Jan 11
I agree with what you have to say. I don't think people should give up persistence counts, but there is a limit to how persistent we can all be. I think persistence pays off at the end, but you won't be a rocket scientists if you are not good in math or science, so some people have to know their limits and have to rethink their goals. We should definitely give encourage and provide suggestions definitely, but we should be honest.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
Honesty is very important when suggesting a site. I'm always very frank with others when they want to join a site I like. I usually tell them that if it's easy money they are looking for, the site won't work for them. It's important to tell the others the setback of the site which I always do too.
But there are some people who will want others to give the site they are recommending a second look. That is fine! But if they already have and they feel that it is not their cup of tea, then leave it be and move along now...
@JeongLee (20)
• China
4 Jan 11
i am with you. i don't like the the site listed nagative messages. i never back to such sites. personally,i prefer the artcle listed with suggestions, but nave make it to very person/phenomenon. every person got there idea and have different conclusions.
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
4 Jan 11
It's all in the way we say things or comment on other people's writing. Being very discouraging can bring a person's morale down and even when that person is a good writer, he may even give up writing because it is deemed not in top shape. It's best to provide suggestions on how to improve a person's writing and it has to be done in a gentle manner.