Do Such Places Really Exist
By p1kef1sh
@p1kef1sh (45681)
January 16, 2011 1:42pm CST
Yesterday I watched "Steel Magnolias" for about the zillionth time and yet again I wondered if there are really places in the western world where the openhearted friendlieness that exists within the women there really exists in real life. Curiously I think that it does exist in cyber space, but in YOUR town or village? Do you know your neighbours and welcome in strangers, or are you and they just folk that pass in the street?
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@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
16 Jan 11
I do think such places exist, maybe not quite as exaggerated as in Steel Magnolias, but not far off. My first time going to Knoxville, TN, I was just reaching the city limits on Interstate 81 when we came upon a traffic jam caused by an accident that was being cleaned up. Most of the delay was what we call "gaper" delay - people slowing down both for emergency vehicles as well as to check it out.
Well, as my daughter and I crawled past the flatbed tow truck and could see the car and police in the grassy median, I suddenly heard my daughter scream, "MOM!!!" and looked up just in time to see myself tapping the back bumper of the car in front of me. You know, it's bad enough you do something so stupid, but when it's your first time in the state and you're a Yankee to boot, you want to crawl away and hide. I got out of my car after we pulled off into the shoulder and apologized profusely to the woman I'd hit. Eventually a police officer came over and checked out our cars and asked if we wanted to do anything about it since there didn't appear to be any damage. I let her go first. She said it was all good, so I did as well. He let us go. But, before I got back in my car, she asked me about my trip, why was I there, etc. And then, the surprise of my life, she reached out and hugged me saying, "Welcome to Tennessee. I hope you enjoy your visit." HOLY COW!! That did it for me. I was hooked and definitely wanted to come back in the future!!
In New Jersey, you'd be lucky to not get a beat down!! In Tennessee, I got a hug!!
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@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
17 Jan 11
Omg the same thing happened to my family on the 81 just outside of Franklin! During the big floods last spring, there was a huge sinkhole that had the traffic at a complete standstill for hours. My family had taken a last-minute early flight and were driving from Nashville to Chattanooga and none of us had slept for about 25 hours. We were exhausted and groggy and in the stop-and-go traffic, my mom accidentally hit the gas instead of the break and slammed into the guy ahead of us. One of the highway patrolmen in the area cam over and helped us get the cars off to the side. Our rental car was undriveable and we were trying to figure out what we were going to do as we had tons of luggage in the car and no way to get anywhere. It turned out that the man we hit was from California and driving to Chattanooga, too and he gave us a ride the rest of the way! About a 2 hour drive! It was amazing.
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@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
17 Jan 11
Well, Gloom, looks like I need to find another route to Knoxville! LOL
Really, though, 81 goes through valleys and lots of open land, so as bad as it is, I'd not be surprised to find a sinkhole. Of course it depends on how large that sinkhole was. I came down through the Blue Ridge valley of Virginia and it's such a gorgeous ride. I've been to Nashville, but we flew in. The farthest west I was on 81 was going to Oak Ridge (that same trip). Haven't been to Chattanooga yet. My friends live in Friendsville, just south of Alcoa.
Where do you live, P1ke? I've been to Chester and Manchester (like the former, didn't like the latter) and once worked for a company out of Oxford.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
16 Jan 11
I don't know when or why it started but many people have become insular and only bother about themselves (and I am guilty of this too) and I blame the onset of fences. When Mum and Dad moved into their street in the late 60s there were small picket fences inbetween all the back gardens, so everyone could look right the way down them in each direction. Over the years they have ALL been replaced by high fences or walls. Most of them still tend their gardens but the fronts are a different story..gardens ripped up, replaced by driveways for the ever-increasing number of cars people have acquired. Cars were unheard of, even in the 70s, when us kids used to play out in the street. Now they all just run about and shout at each other.
Having said all that, it's not been a recent thing whereby neighbours ignore one another for no reason at all. My Dad has lost count of the times he has TRIED to speak to his neighbours and they ignore him, only to speak to people a few doors up instead. It's all very strange.
As for me, I now live in a street of terraced houses. I should imagine - years ago, the blokes would go to work (there was a cranemakers site down the road now replaced by a commercial estate) and their wives would scrub their front doorsteps with pride. That way they could converse with their neighbours. None of us do this anymore. We all shut ourselves away, lock the doors, watch telly and "speak" to more people on the computer than in the real world. Yes, we say "hello" but that's as far as it goes. We are all frightened of becoming friendly with anyone. The trust has gone.
I tell you one thing though..if I had elderly neighbours I WOULD check on them. I've read many stories about the old not turning their fires on and wrapping themselves up in coats and it breaks my heart.
How have we got to this?
Isn't it ironic how we all love "Lark Rise to Candleford?" It made me cry at least 5 times tonight!!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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17 Jan 11
I do think that the fact that now houses are empty for so much of the day does lead to some isolation. I used to work in Gibraltar and I was always impressed by the fact that people would get home from work, eat. and then walk down Main St taking the air. Of course they do have better weather than us!
I administer some alms houses and there is a bit of a community there. But it's still not quite "Steel Magnolias".
I love Larkrise although I do get annoyed with the fact that Alf and Twister seem to have to play a tune at some point in each programme. Reminds me of Robson and Jerome. I am in love with Dorcas!! LOL.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
17 Jan 11
She has an amazing voice in it doesn't she? Bit different from "Ab Fab" all those years ago! I think a lot of men (and probably women as well) love the woman to bits..for allsorts of reasons. I think Queenie is one of the best characters in it. When she showed Rose how to use those bobbins I just burst into tears! The show does mirror what's going on now, in many ways. It's so clever how it goes on about machines taking over..doing people out of work..the banker last week. Haha! I'm glad most of them were in it this time. I do love Minnie but it bugs me whenever she takes over the show. It's supposed to be about Laura..oh, and when we found out that Laura submitted an old poem of her Ma's that set me off as well.
God, I love a good cry!!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
17 Jan 11
Oh, and my biggest "boo" or "cry" came when Twister helped Queenie wrap her lace. It was sooo sweet, I loved it!
@SViswan (12051)
• India
17 Jan 11
Ours is a smaller apartment complex (in comparison with the huge complexes with 200-300 apartments that have come up close by). So, most of us know each other and are quite aware of new people who move in....even though we do not have common walls. We welcome strangers (who move into the apartment) but I can't say all of us are friends. There are some down side to everyone knowing everyone else. We have our squabbles and nasty people who we cannot avoid even if we want to. So, not everyone is friends...and we also have people who do not talk to each other.
If I meet someone I haven't met before in the elevator, I say 'hello' and ask which apartment they moved into...and other details...not the nosy kind but the general kind.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
18 Jan 11
Ours is smaller in the number of apartments...but size wise, each apartment is large by Indian standards. And so most of the people living here are also the ones who are interested in money (except the few who bought their places around 10 years or more back). We are one of the few people here who have just one car and a that too a Maruti 800.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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17 Jan 11
I have never lived in a big apartment block except for about a year in Germany. But there they were only interested in how much money you had. I think that my ancient Renault gave them the answer. But they were seriously impressed when my friend brought his Aston Martin over!! LOL. Amazing how people judge us simply by price and not by value.
@liquorice (3887)
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16 Jan 11
Yes, kind of. Even though we're in the big town of London (well, its suburbs really), our neighbourhood is a very friendly place. Lots of people know oneanother, (especially those of us with children - having kids certainly makes it easier to know your neighbours). Our life revolves around the local school, and we have some local events and kids activities where everyone sees oneanother. We are lucky that there are some residents who work hard to organise these things, and we hope they never move away, lol!! But a lot of us have the attitude that it's up to all of us to help in these kinds of things.
I know we're very lucky to live here, and that this situation is maybe a bit unusual, and it's maybe not quite so laid-back as on Steel Magnolias, but it's a great place to live! :)
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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16 Jan 11
I think that children do bring adults together. Some of our oldest friends date from when we too lived on a London suburb. Although none of us live there now. In fact we're as far apart as Norwich and Dundee! Here we do know our neighbors but whilst we are friendly I am not sure that we are "friends".
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@liquorice (3887)
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17 Jan 11
That's another sign of the times, the way people move around so much. When I was at school most of the kids in my year went through the whole school with me, and it was unusual for people to move away. But at my daughter's school children quite frequently leave because their family's moving to a different part of the country, or to another country. It's good, I suppose that we're more mobile these days and moving isn't such a big deal, but it's very sad when friends move away.
@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
17 Jan 11
I think that's more a reflection of your environment rather than the times. Where I live is an extremely transient town. It's always been rare for people to stay here for extended periods of time. Going through school there were only maybe two dozen kids in my year who I went through the entire school career with.
@celticeagle (166911)
• Boise, Idaho
17 Jan 11
Sadly, it is fictional. I think the closest you come when you are young and have you friends. Co-workers sometimes but not very often because they are all out for themselves. I know some of my neighbors. I grew up knowing all my neighbors up and down the road. Things are different in the world today. It is not as easy to find a true friend and really good people.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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17 Jan 11
I said in my discussion that I believed that cyber friends can be a real community and show real friendship. I have good reason for saying that. I am sure that there is the occasional place that is all hearts and flowers, but it isn't here! That said, I have lived in far far worse places.
@celticeagle (166911)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 11
That's good that the place where you live isn't that bad. I live in a big capitol city and I am not impressed by the people. It used to be a nice little town but not much anymore.
@zoey7879 (3092)
• Quincy, Illinois
17 Jan 11
I used to be that all likable loving person, but living in the ghetto and several friends being murdered just beat that right the hell out of me.
@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
17 Jan 11
My mother is originally from Tennessee and I have family though Tennessee and Kentucky and there are a LOT of places there that are like that. I myself was born and raised in a big city and to me people being that open and friendly can be rather obnoxious and pushy.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 11
I would imagine in small towns there's a sense of camaraderie and friendliness and sharing--of course in such small towns there would perhaps be more of a chance of gossipy nosy bodies...LOL
One of my FB friends lives in the area of Australia (Brisbane) where the horrific floods were ---and she told me EVERYONE is pitching in and helping each other
As for where I live...yikes on my block alone without exaggeration there must be about 800 or more people living in the apts....so nope hardly anyone knows each other
BTW--LOVE Steel Magnolias--love Ouiser's character
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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17 Jan 11
I think that there are times when calamaties occur and people mix in together but it's a shame that we have to depend on a disaster for it to happen.
I love Ouiser too. "Ouiser, you sound almost chipper what happened today you run over a small child or something?"
@jillhill (37354)
• United States
16 Jan 11
Actually I live in a small town and everyone knows just about everyone...and yes. We are friendly...they are not strangers passing on the street...and my neighbors just rock! I have what we call the boys club in my neighborhood...I am a single woman..and these guys watch out for me. If someone were to break into my house or try to harm me they would have to deal with about four grown men who seriously protect me! Can't live any place better! Also...in Minnesota we have a name for it....it's called Minnesota Nice!
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Jan 11
I've never seen the movie but it's on my list of ones I want to watch. I have never seen woman that are openhearted with each other generally although I have a couple of friends that I can be myself with and I know they won't gossip about me or talk behind my back. Generally, in my experience, women are catty and mean to each other and I don't trust most of them as far as I can throw them. It would be wonderful if the kind of camaraderie you describe in Steel Magnolias was the rule rather than the exception.