Can you really bring yourself up, by bringing others down?

rude people all over - rude mid level managers
@bounce58 (17387)
Canada
January 20, 2011 10:09pm CST
I work in the office side of a big manufacturing setting. Within the organization are a lot of mid-level managers that help run the company. Once a week they have a meeting to account for the decisions they've made in achieving their objectives. I've sat in one of those meetings a few times, and I couldn't believe the depths these people go to, to make themselves feel important! As they sit in front of the GM, they get to bickering. Often making others look bad as they play blame-games. It seems like they always want to bring others down, and make themselves look good in the process. I don't think it's healthy. I get the concept of being competitive, but I just don't think that this is the way to go about it. The sad thing is, I've also seen this attitude in some people. Not just mid-level managers. Do you know some people like this too? Have you been victimized by blame so that you'd look bad while somebody else look good? How do you deal with this kind of people? What if you're just like me, in a corporate world with the same kind of managers?
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10 responses
• United States
21 Jan 11
Firstly I do not believe that I bring myself up by bringing others down, at least not intentionally. The way I see it is my work and ethics speak for themselves and by this there is no reason for me to prove as my work speaks for itself. I have been put in this type of position in the past and as things get heated I tend to take a step back. As two wrongs in my mind do not make a right and well lets just say that when it boils down to production any person with even half a brain will see that the other could not have possibly achieved and attained my ideas all by themselves. So the way I see it, is that it is best to let the work and ethics show who is the bigger person as when it comes to appraisal, I surely always felt high and mighty.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
23 Jan 11
I've learned from being in a company that makes appraisals to their employees regularly, to keep a record of all of my accomplishments at work. As they become useful when you try to project 'high and mighty'. But, I would also let my work ethics speak for itself when dealing with others. I don't really think that anything is accomplished by bringing others down. Thanks.
• United States
23 Jan 11
I think only bullies feel good putting someone down first. But if a person have been kind and then someone demeans them And then they put that person down, that's ok. It is a form of revenge.Me? I'm nice until it is time not to be nice!
• United States
26 Jan 11
Where else would an a$$hole learn how to scream and intimidate?The schoolyard! But what is so true is once you push a bully , they turtle like a little girl. I hope the others push the " Don't F@ck with me" button Real soon.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
Ha! Maybe you're right! Maybe these people were bullies when they were little. Does that mean that bullies have places in the corporate world? I'm just a bit sad for the people that work around and for this bullies. Hopefully they'd also get to a point when it's time to be not-nice.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
21 Jan 11
It seems like the first thing that some people do when asked about an issue or mistake...point the finger. I think that in the long run it looks bad on the person playing the blame game. If someone in my team screws up...it's us not him or her. I think that in higher management..they appreciate a person that just takes responsibility for their group. I think they also appreciate just saying..ok..this is not working so this is what WE are planning to do to change it. I have actually know people that belittled others to gain position but the fact is if that is how they got their position..that is the only way they know how to keep it and their job performance will reflect it.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
The sad thing is, there are really people like this in different companies. People who get their positions, or promotions by stepping on others. And they justify it by calling themselves 'aggresive'. It is sad, but it is just reality. Thanks Jen.
@Nadinest1 (2016)
• Canada
21 Jan 11
The people who do this, I feel....feel bad about themselves....insecure as well. In reality, a lot of times, it just makes them look petty....like in your office. my sister thinks of herself this way....no mater what I post on Facebook....her reply always has to have some sort of 'dig' to it.....trying to make me look bad. others have noticed this and have mentioned it to me....but again, she is the one who is looking petty...or bi@#hy.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
You must love your sister so much! You bring up a good point, insecurity. I think what people lack in confidence, they hide in making others look not-so-good. Although most of the time it comes off as petty, sometimes they just can't help it. Thanks.
@buli23 (550)
• India
28 Jan 11
I think this type of practice is of practice is done in office. There is competition in ever steps of our life. So all the people try to win in this competition. So every body try do bringing other down for bring himself up.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
1 Feb 11
You're absolutely right that this practice is very common in an office setting. Although everybody looks civil, I think most are looking out for themselves. And if getting ahead means stepping on others, I think some people wouldn't have any problems doing that. Thanks.
@lydneis (26)
• United States
22 Jan 11
It's a lot easier to make yourself look good by pointing out flaws in other people than to actually work hard. Unfortunately people are lazy so that's what they do. We live in a world that rewards people for steping on everyone else. I will never get ahead in business because I refuse to make other people look bad just to make me seem less bad.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
I often wonder about that. On why in the corportate world, or places of business, the people who step on others are the ones rewarded. Although it does look 'aggresive', it still doesn't bode well for the others who are made to look bad. Thanks and welcome to myLot!
@eurekafemme (5877)
• Philippines
21 Jan 11
This is not my cup of tea. I will never be satisfied bringing others down while I am bringing myself up. I'm not too goody person but I just don't have the stomach to do it. This scenario is mostly common in the corporate world wherein people are trying to have a piece of each other in order to retain , if not get promoted from their jobs. Sad, but everybody seems to use everybody to get what they want for their own selfish satisfaction and gratification. How to deal with it? If I am confident that I was not to blame then I will defend myself to the last breath. I will not allow anyone to step on me especially if the reputation and integrity is at stake. It is better to settle things right there ans then in front of the management than to t it pass. People have the tendency to become abusive.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
People have the tendency to become abusive. This is very true in the corporate world. Once you let one incident pass, you'd be identified as someone who'll always take one for the team. And the others around tend to be abusive. Thanks.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
21 Jan 11
Bringing others down is doing just that. I can't see that anyone can ever bring themselves up by destroying someone else. You bring yourself up by your achievements in life. It caan't be brought on by what you do to another person.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
Hello sender621. It seems to be a very simple concept. That it doesn't really bring anybody anywhere by bringing others down. Yet, you meet people that are just like that. Maybe they don't know what they're doing, but they seem to take pleasure in bringing others down. Thanks.
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
21 Jan 11
For me it is depends on the situation if you are up because you have to challenge your self of what they gossip in you then the person you made to have a challenge became down maybe it is done.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
Hello ebuscat. Great perspective! I didn't see it that way. If the only reason people kept getting dragged down is the negativity surrounding some people, then as long as you don't participate in that negativity, you'll surely rise up. Thanks.
• India
21 Jan 11
no i do not like those people.those like people are idiot.i also bring me up,but not bringing other down.it is right that if me prefer to myself up,so anyone can by down.i did not prefer those man.if you saw those like people than please tell them about their respond..............
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
Hello somnathsen. You're absolutely right. You can always bring yourself up, by your own efforts, without bringing others down. Thanks for the response.