Why some christians are converting people?
By raja26
@raja26 (154)
India
January 21, 2011 6:34am CST
I have always seen some christian priests or preachers convert people from other religion. And today I have seen a news video where Chinese people are also been converted into Christians. I'm from India and I'm feeling too hurt by this kind of activity, because I'm having huge respect for Buddhism and Buddha.
As a human I would love to have my people in my country to follow the religion which has formed the base of everything like culture, food, dresses etc.
Other religious people don't involve in these kind of conversion. I can't tolerate this. If you people feel the same please share your views. Let us protest against these.
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13 responses
@mikeyr6000le (2123)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I think in their religioun it says to share the word or gospil. Some people think it means to make others think like them and make everyone Christians. If you haven't heard of Christianity or don't believe then you will go to hell acording to them. That's why they do the mission thing to go "help" people in third world countires. They do help them out with water and crops and helping to build houses and schools but then they teach or in my opionion force their way of thinking on them.
@mikeyr6000le (2123)
• United States
25 Jan 11
I'm sure the bible says and doesn't say alot of things but how can you get into hevon if you've never heard of it? Don't you get in by accepting god and Jesus as your savior and that stuff? How can you do that if you've never heard of the guy?
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
mikeyr6000le, the Bible doesn't say what happens if you never hear of Christianity. Many, perhaps most, Christians believe that God will judge you in the light of what your experiences so there's some chance for such people.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
22 Jan 11
Conversions are not limited to Christians alone, Muslims do this too. I think most religions do. This is the first time I heard that Buddhists don't convert would be followers. I'm just confused on why you feel hurt when people try to convert you since all you need to do is say "no" and I'm sure those who are inviting you won't force you to join. I am a Christian and I have friends who are inviting me to become a muslim but I said no and that's the end of it and we're still friends. It's just a matter of respect.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
24 Jan 11
You can't blame those who want to convert other people to their religion, it's part of their teachings. I believe that those who want to convert others do it because they think that it's their duty and they believe in their faith. By converting others, they believe that they just save someone from hell. At the end of the day, the person being converted would decide if he will leave his own religion in exchange of a new one. If he decides to join that's his decision and he if finds that there are conflicts with his own beliefs then he can just leave that religion again and go back to the other one. I'm sure no one will kill him if he decides to leave nor others would prevent him if we wants to keep changing religions.
@raja26 (154)
• India
22 Jan 11
Hi, nicely said, but I'm not talking about myself alone, but about other illiterate people who can easily be pulled. I have never seen a Muslim converter. My muslim friends are keeping other religious God images and we too go with them for Ramzan and all. This is a good nation now.
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
Muslims often kill people who convert from Islam to something else.
@look4rekha (47)
• India
6 May 11
I agree with you Raja. People should think in which religion they want to be. Though Preachers is doing their work. But its upto the individual to change or not to change
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
22 Jan 11
My dear, Christians are following the commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ to go and preach all nations so they too could have the grace of salvation. This is a duty they have to fulfill and out of compassion for all lost souls who will surely go to hell unless they find the right faith.
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
24 Jan 11
My dear not all people in third-world countries are illiterate. And not all illiterates can be easily convinced into the truth of something. There are also many illiterate ones who are even wiser literates.
Christians are fulfilling the great commission left by Jesus Christ before He ascended to heaven and preaching and teaching to others about salvation is a task they can't just sit on. We can't dictate on Christians not to do that for certainly they will not listen because they would rather obey God than men.
@raja26 (154)
• India
22 Jan 11
My dear, I too feel that, if people fail to follow their own religion then they will go to hell. Each one is having their own belief then why do you push your believes into someone else. People in third world countries are illiterate so they believe whatever you are saying, they will not even think whether you say good or bad. So try to keep your religion with yourselves and if anyone finds it interesting or better, let them change.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
24 Jan 11
Correction on the last sentence of my first paragraph. I mean ..."There are also many illiterate ones who are even wiser than the literates."
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
One of my more annoying experiences was when a young woman who'd refused to go out with me because I was too young for her (although she was several years younger than me) started going out with a boy who was even younger than her. I think much the same inconcistency applies to people's attitudes towards Christianity and Islam. They complain about Christianity being sexist or intolerant or the scriptures being hard to believe. Then they turn around and are positive about Islam although it's worse by the same criteria! Here you are, complaining about Christian priests converting people to Christianity but far more people are getting converted to Islam. Islam uses violence, terrorism and persecution, like unfair taxes, to encourage people to convert. Christianity does none of these things! You're really being unfair in singling Christians out for criticism here! You even say "Other religious people don't involve in these kind of conversion" as if Christians are the only people to seek converts, which isn't true at all!
You say you respect Buddhism and Buddha. How can you respect a man who walked out on his wife and kid? Buddha wasn't a god or prophet, he was just a philosopher. If you're looking for somebody to base your religion on, you really should choose somebody with a hot line to the paranormal! I've never walked out on my wife, doesn't that make me better than Buddha? The main tenant of Buddhism is "to exist is to suffer". The main objective is to reach nirvana and cease to exist in order to stop being reincarnated. However most Buddhists don't believe in reincarnation, which really renders the whole thing pointless.
@raja26 (154)
• India
26 Jan 11
As far as I see in our country christians are the only people who try to convert people. I can tell what I'm seeing, I cannot say what I read in internet or something.
You said Buddha wasn't a God, I ask you "Haven't you seen 'The Davinci Code'" they too say that Jesus is a human. I dont want to comment on your believes or christianity but I'm trying to say that converting people hurts me. You are try to give judgment for that.
If you feel that "not believing reincarnation is pointless", I too think that reincarnation is pointless. Can you prove me that?. This depends on one's belief. You are not going to decide what the world should consider pointless or right. I'm talking about what is happening in my country? But you are try to say that conversion is correct and you are not doing any kind of terrorism. But i'm saying conversion itself is wrong.
You said Buddha walked out on his wife and kid. Haven't you seen how many American's doing this. Aren't they christians?
I saying again and again, don't push your believes on others. You cannot expect me to believe what you are thinking is correct.
Somebody say that people are being killed for conversion, Shall I tell you how many people are being scammed for conversion. We should consider only the large scale. One or two incidents is not going to help their argument. People know well about these kind of false news.
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
26 Jan 11
Am I right in thinking that you live in India? Aren't there any Muslims in your area?
Firstly, "The Da Vinci Code" is rather controversial. Secondly, it's orthodox Christian doctrine that Jesus is both "fully man" and "fully God". I think I'm right in saying that Buddha never claimed to be anything other than a philosopher. This may well have been honest of him but it gives him no right to found a religion.
I didn't say that "not believing in reincarnation is pointless"! I said that the main point of Buddhism is ceasing to exist, rather than being reincarnated, so not believing in reincarnation makes Buddhism pointless.
I don't know how many of the Americans who abandon their wives and kids are Christians. Many people claim to be Christians but aren't really. They are not the basis of my faith! I'm sure there are many Buddhists (and other non-Christian groups) who do questionable things.
I found a web page describing Muslim doctrine concerning those who convert from Islam (apostates): hppt://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostosy.htm and I have heard of this happening. I don't know what you mean about people being scammed for conversion.
@bear14624 (20)
• United States
25 Jan 11
Actually, I wold have to say that NO ONE does have a perfect relationship with their God. And that was my point, that relationship is between you and God and therefore, unless it perfect, then, who are we to look at out brother and judge whatever imperfection he may have in his belief( Relationship with his God ). Dpoind so maks a statement that we are in fact equal to or superior to our God.
@raja26 (154)
• India
26 Jan 11
Who are u to say that I wont attain perfect relationship with God? What do you know about me? Do not speak unnecessarily unless you know completely about the person.
I accept all the explanations that some one gave to this discussion, but I don't like our people being converted. I would not have started this discussion, if it was mere preaching about the Christianity but here, in our country I just see conversion.
I close this discussion, because I don't like people try to judge their actions by some false information, which is irritating me. And I request every human in this world to follow their own religion and try to pull out unnecessary and superstitious believes from it.
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
If you wait to have a perfect relationship with your God before going out to serve him, you'll never do anything to serve him. Often you find the faults by trying to use the equipment and seeing what goes wrong. Therefore trying to serve God is likely to reveal your faults so you can correct them.
You don't have to judge others to know that they need a relationship with God. That's true of everybody. Somebody who claims to be a Christian but gives your reasons to doubt that they're saved may be a bigger problem. You should try to judge (perhaps 'assess' is a better word) them according to Biblical teaching rather than just objecting to their falling short of your (rather than God's) standards. Maybe God wants them to do something you don't like the look of.
I don't know what you mean about making a statement that we are equal to our God.
@bear14624 (20)
• United States
25 Jan 11
My entire thread has to do with the originator of this discussion who said "HE was hurt by seeing Christians convert people to Christianity and was looking for others to PROTEST this action with him."
He has no business judging nor assessing his brother's conversion, nor taking it to heart( which I believe is a BS Statement to PROTEST Christians) So my basic point was that should he ever achieve a PERFECT relationship between himself and his God ( BUDDA) which he wont, then,and only then might he be qualified to make the statements he has.
I think you may have mistaken me for the originator of this discussion.
@bournecaindelta (2477)
• India
22 Jan 11
One has to be very critical when it comes to religion. Most people just say something and then retract because what they said has hurt others and offended many a people. I also have heard of cases where people are getting converted to some other religion when lured with financial benefits, but I feel that such a change is not with the heart. If people can follow some other religion just for the sake of money and a good living, then I think ti's not worth the change because the whole point of conversion if the liking for the values and ethics and culture of the other religion.
It is sad to know that many people are falling into this trap and I guess they will be made to pay later heavily when the time actually comes.
bourne
@piya84 (2581)
• India
22 Jan 11
There is nothing wrong in conversion.BUT it should not be done using MONEY.I know this is happening in India's tribal lands and thats seriously bad.
People should convert to certain religion because they find it spiritually appealing.It do get on my nerves when some people subscribing certain religion says Pagans and Idolaters are going to burn in hell.
@kendedes2011 (2712)
• Indonesia
21 Jan 11
I just think it's true that if someone converts only through thinking and determination without a compulsion, you know, many cases the spread of religion in a way not fair, especially in a region that has a bad economic situation. You know? Here poor people can switch religions because life assurance, food each month can make them change. It is sad how that is taken to spread a doctrine. Do people think to lure sheep with grass? It is a complex reality.
@bear14624 (20)
• United States
23 Jan 11
First you must have a perfect relationship between YOU AND YOUR GOD, then, and only then can you look to your brother.
@Graptopetalum (1807)
• Canada
25 Jan 11
Does anybody have a perfect relationship with their God? If you wait for perfection, in pretty much anything, you'll end up never doing anything!
@somnathsen (129)
• India
21 Jan 11
those people did the wrong job..those people are not like man.our motto in life must"we all love people..but some people love only their religion people,but it is not right.we have only one work we have protest those people.it is not right that we love only our citizen,,we must love all people in the world..............
@raja26 (154)
• India
21 Jan 11
Hey man obviously everyone is going to love all people after all we are not from any terrorist group, but we are in a situation to speak about the reality. You cannot do or follow what you are saying. What you said is only possible for saints. Can you love some terrorists destroying your country people. what I'm saying is No one should market God.
@somnathsen (129)
• India
21 Jan 11
those people did the wrong job..those people are not like man.our motto in life must"we all love people..but some people love only their religion people,but it is not right.we have only one work we have protest those people.it is not right that we love only our citizen,,we must love all people in the world..............
@yeligaysom (4)
• India
21 Jan 11
Conversions can only happen when a person is willing to get converted. There may be some reasons why a person want to get converted. People who have been thrown out of their own community and no help or assistance available tend to get converted. Some people get converted when they offered or some money or some kind of benefits. Conversion from one religion to another do not change the attitude of the people towards the society they live in. In my opinion people should try to be more human and respect the humanity instead of indulging in conversions. To me being a human is more important than being a Christian, Hindu, Budhist or any other.
@raja26 (154)
• India
21 Jan 11
hi yeligaysom, i think you have not seen any conversion before. Can you believe this? Our government has made an amendment that no one should be converted by approaching. The conversion before 5 years was very severe. They targeted the poor people first by giving them money, facilities etc.
And moreover community or religion is not an office to throw out people. How will you say that a religion has thrown out some people. I think that makes no sense. Even if so then atleast 80% of the same community people will help them.
@yeligaysom (4)
• India
23 Jan 11
I am a staunch believer in Hinduism and its principles. However some times I feel helpless when people divide in castes. There are so many castes and classes which divide Hindus. Why all these discrimination? Did anyone really understood what is Hinduism? People cry and shout about conversion but what about so many castes that are dividing people in India? Hinduism is way of life but castes divide us. Untouchability still persists in India.
I am a living witness to community discrepancy. What I have undergone I think you can not understand it. I am also a witness to lots of conversions with reasons with documentary evidence.
I am born as a Hindu and prefer to die as a Hindu. Though I am struggling financially, morally and physically I never think of converting to any religion.
I always thought myself as a human being first than whatever the religion and cast or creed. Can anybody on this planet change their mother who gave birth to them? That's what I believe in.
I really hate people who are trying to convert or opting to conversion but what really matters is are we really trying to be HUMAN BEINGS?