It might not be "your fault", but it's not mine either and it's YOUR problem.
By Taskr36
@Taskr36 (13963)
United States
January 21, 2011 2:21pm CST
Nobody wants to take responsibility for their own situation anymore. Somehow it's my job to pay for everyone else's problem. I get it, a lot of people lost their jobs when the economy went south, heck I was unemployed too for a little while. I spent 3 months living off my savings before I got another job at which I am currently underemployed.
Meanwhile we have people who have been living off the government teet for over a year sucking up unemployment benefits. I keep hearing how these people are suffering "through no fault of their own". I'm sure the vast majority of them were victims of layoffs due to a poor economy, but that's still their problem and not mine. I didn't fire them and for that matter neither did Bush, Obama, or any of the incompetent morons in congress. People who are demanding unemployment extensions after a year or two of living off unemployment benefits and welfare need to take responsibility for their own situation and get a freaking job.
I know, I'm a horrible insensitive, uncaring jerk who can't possibly understand how hard it is for them. I'm just tired of hearing every excuse in the book for why people should be getting free money for years without doing any work while I'm stuck funding the programs being abused by many people who would rather get free money than take a less desirable job.
When I lost my job I moved over 1,000 miles with my wife and child to an area with more jobs just so I could be making 60% of what I was at my last job. I'm currently fighting for a promotion where I'll be making more money, but will be working in the city with the highest crime rate in the nation.
Does anyone else here feel that unemployed people need to stop looking to the government to fix their problems? At what point should we stop giving free money for not working? If you have been unemployed for over a year, or know someone who has, what steps have they taken to earn their own money and why don't they have a job yet?
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
21 Jan 11
It's real nice that things worked out well for you, taskr, but I'm sure you're aware that being unemployed for only 3 months is not the norm. Most people, and especially working class families, don't have large savings accounts to fall back on when there's a job loss and relocating is not only expensive, it's a gamble.
To answer part 1 of your last question first, yes, I know several people who have been unemployed for over a year down here in Florida and back home in MD. None of them have the attitude that they'll just cruise on through life collecting unemployment, all of them are struggling and have cut everything they can out of their budgets just so they can survive, all of them are out there and online trying to find jobs.
The answer to part 2 of that question varies. Some of the unemployed I know are older...in the 40 to 55 age group and are routinely passed over for younger candidates because there is so much competition for every job...even on the coast. One woman I know only had general office skills so she went to school and got her CNA, believing that she would quickly be able to find a job since we have such a large population of elderly people in our state. She's applied for jobs as far away as Miami (over 2 hours away) and, so far, nothing has panned out.
To answer your first question, I don't agree that unemployed people are looking to the government to "fix their problems". Unless I missed it, I haven't heard/read that the unemployment rate has dropped or that job opportunities have suddenly shot up with millions of jobs going unfilled because no one is applying. In fact, the opposite is what I have seen and continue to see. I don't agree that no one wants to take responsibility for their own situation anymore and, while I don't necessarily agree that you're a jerk, I do agree that you're being pretty uncaring and judgemental under the circumstances. It's great that you were able to afford to move your family 1,000 miles away and to survive for the three whole months it took you to find another job. Not everyone is in the same position.
@lydneis (26)
• United States
22 Jan 11
Yes there are people out there taking advantage of unemployment. I personally know people that won't look for another job because they'd be making less than their benefits, but it's the same thing with welfare. There's always someone taking advantage of the system, but that doesn't mean everyone is. Lot's of people just can't find jobs. I'm currently searching for a job myself (not on unemployment by the way so I have no income at the moment) but there are too many people looking for jobs with better qualifications.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I know 3 months is not the norm, and my education level has an unemployment rate much lower than the national average, but I didn't get to this level or have a decent savings by accident.
Personally, I don't understand the people who refuse to move for a job at this point. If you've been unemployed for over a year, you should be doing everything possible to get out of that rut. There are still a handful of states with low unemployment numbers.
I know moving isn't cheap, but how long can you sit in the same place collecting unemployment before you realize that you have to get out and find a better state or city to get a job in. There are still states with low unemployment. North Dakota has an unemployment rate lower than 4% right now and in the Northwest Vermont and New Hampshire are under 6%. I'd rather drain my savings moving to an area with promise than spend a year in the same place with no prospects.
I took a good long look at job opportunities in my field before moving. I saw that there were literally ZERO job openings for me in both south and central Florida and that colleges and counties in New Jersey had plenty of job openings. At first I was applying from Florida, but then I realized that most cities and counties in New Jersey had residency requirements so my applications were getting thrown out. That's why I had to move there first. It was a bit of a gamble, but sometimes you really have to go for things rather than spend a year hoping for things you can't control to change for you.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I've been putting money into savings since I was 16 working for $4.25 an hour. I had a 401k when I was 18 working at Universal Studios and rolled it into an IRA 5 years later when I left that job. I know I had the advantage of parents who taught me the benefit of these things, but anyone can put money into a savings account.
I don't look down on people with disdain because they don't have special skills. There is a need for such workers everywhere in the country and many of those people work harder that those with special skills for far less money.
I'm not claiming that it's easy to move, nor is it a guarantee of a job. Ageism is alive and well and it's definitely harder to get a job when you're around 50. I'm just saying that after a year of being jobless, collecting unemployment checks while searching locally, is clearly NOT working and people in that rut should do what it takes to better their own situation.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Reminds me of one of my favorite sayings
Your life is not my problem....my life is none of your business.
People need to start realizing they need to start taking responsibility for their own lives and leave other peoples lives alone.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
21 Jan 11
It's true, we might be living in a bad economy right now, but that is no excuse to complain about unemployment.
There have been people who were laid off, and began looking for other jobs, decided to start their own business or go back to school and train for something else.
I am in school right now getting my degree for my future career.
I think that people should stop making excuses and just get out there and do something.
I know a lot of people who are living off of government money right now as well, and it's ridiculous. Work! Start a business! Go to school! DO SOMETHING!
Quit complaining, and just go out there and make something of yourselves. Life to short to sit around mope all day long about your situation.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
22 Jan 11
My college told us that after we all graduate, there were no guarantees that any of us are going to find jobs, but that our chances were higher of finding a job than those with no degree.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Jan 11
That's just it. I can't fathom running in place while collecting unemployment checks. Good for you getting in school and working on a degree. Did you know that the unemployment rate for college graduates is about 4.5%? That's apparently up from 3.7% in 2007, but still pretty darn good. Now I'm not saying that all college graduates have the job of their dreams (I'm underemployed myself), but they certainly aren't struggling to find work the way most people are.
Personally I just refuse to be unemployed. In my time of joblessness I was fixing computers for friends, family, friends of family, etc. while also volunteering at the library where I was trying to get a job. By the time there was an opening they already knew who I was and how good a worker I am.
http://www.bargaineering.com/articles/recession-college-graduates.html
http://www.nebhe.org/2010/08/12/does-a-4-5-unemployment-rate-among-college-grads-constitute-%E2%80%9Cfull-employment%E2%80%9D/
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
22 Jan 11
Taskr, we have a high unemployment rate around here, as well as a high illegal immigrant problem. hhmmm could there be a connection?
I work in a local bar and just off the top of my head I can think of three guys that come in with their unemployment checks to drink and gamble. All three of these men have families. All three have their homes in foreclosure. While they sit there all day, I have a very hard time thinking they are looking for work. Their benefits have all run out so they are all waiting for extensions.
I have to wonder, what the heck?
I believe that at a time like this, you have to be inventive, dont wait for some smoe to give you a little work. Create work. Find where there is a need and fill it.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
21 Jan 11
I have a family member who has three children but will not marry the father as she makes too much money from the government for being a single mother. She has had unemployment benefits for a couple of years and when they ran out she got government benefits to go to college where she has a 4.0 GPA and is on the Honor Roll. She is very smart and knows how to milk the system for what it's worth. She is very proud of her accomplishments and cannot understand why I feel shame for her. She gets about $700.00 a month in food stamps but know how to work deal when she can trade covered items for products not payable by food stamps.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
22 Jan 11
My wife's uncle is actually living the good life right now on the taxpayer's dime too. He's making over $50,000 off unemployment and disability. He's not lazy, and he still applies for jobs. He just won't accept anything that doesn't pay over $60,000 because he can't imagine working for less than he gets for free. The government money is a disincentive to actually getting a job. Right now he just collects his checks while doing heating and air conditioning repairs for friends and family.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I am 71 years old and retired but I have never in my entire life taken a penny from the government (UK or USA) that I did not earn. I always managed and never borrowed from family or friends. That is how I was raised and my pride would not let me do any less.
@piya84 (2581)
• India
22 Jan 11
All i can say is i understand your feeling.I work hard and its pain to pay my 50% income in tax.I am trying my best to save tax.Thats the only way believe me.This anting on public forum doent work.People will vilify you for doing that.So go find out how not to pay tax in your country.There are way..
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
22 Jan 11
"So go find out how not to pay tax in your country.There are way.. "
There are ways to reduce your income tax obligation in the US but there is no legal way to avoid it entirely.
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@lipstick2009 (1236)
• Philippines
22 Jan 11
Well you are talking about socio-political problems and we seem to have them since the middle ages, isnt it? (^_^)
Now I will talk about relationships.Everything is a relationship.A give and take agreement. Unless i become so humble and acknowledge my mistakes, problems will arise and remain unsolved.
Humility is what the world needs and acceptance that we all fail somewhere sometime.
@2004cqui (2812)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I became unemployed over two years ago. I have never pulled unemployment in my life. We care for our autistic son in our home. My husband is the only one with a job in this house. To move would be taking a short sale on our house. I live in a huge metro area. I am "pounding the pavement" looking for even a part time job. I am earning some money online and that income is slowly growing. I cannot stand the babys daddy syndrome created by the alternative income source to those ladies who use it to make a living. But the purpose of all the government programs is to keep us out of a depression. With your way of thinking we would be slammed into a depression that you couldn't even weather. You would be walking to everything, your basic services would be cut back or eliminated. You would not want to live in a depression no matter how "comfortable" you are. You would have to work around soup lines, wait in line in your doctors office because they can't afford the staff. Schools would shut their doors, and churches would close because no one could tithe. Much of your world would fall apart. PROUD TO CALL MYSELF AN UNAPOLOGETIC AMERICAN!!
@jessiicali (120)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I have been unemployed for less than a month now, but the day I got let go from my job, I found a little boy to babysit to fill in a little of what I was making. My husband is still employed so we are fine that way. The only thing we have EVER gotten from the government is food stamps. We are on those because we live paycheck to paycheck with paying our electric and water bills, my husband makes only $8.00 an hour, but its still work. I have been out putting out applications, and I'll be honest, I did apply for unemployment but I dont plan on being on it for over a year.