So we're still driving gas powered vehicles why again??

@_sketch_ (5742)
United States
January 21, 2011 10:28pm CST
The technology for hydrogen powered cars has been available for decades now, so why aren't they on the U.S. market? In my best bet, big oil. You might have heard about Stan Meyers (inventor of a hydrogen car) who died a very odd death with very suspicious timing: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2358637173689658380&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en# http://www.rexresearch.com/meyerhy/meyerhy.htm "He was apparently eating dinner at a Grove City OH restaurant, when it is reported that he jumped up from the table, yelled that he'd been poisoned", and rushed out into the parking lot, where he collapsed and died. It has been reported by Meyer's associates that Meyer had just secured funding for a $50 million research center near Grove City, but there is no way to confirm or reject this at the moment." You might have heard about Genepax putting hydrogen cars out on the market in Japan in June of 2008. Some claimed that it was a hoax, despite the many Youtube videos and demonstrations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU&feature=player_embedded I find it quite tragic that we are still fighting wars over oil when this technology, such simple, inexpensive, eco-friendly technology exists. So tell me what you think. Have you heard about this before? What do you think is going on? Why aren't hydrogen vehicles available? Do you think that the technology just hasn't been perfected? Perhaps random bad luck? Or do you, like me, think that big oil has something to do with this? All opinions welcome. Thanks.
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@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
23 Jan 11
I think oil has to do with it too. The country is pretty much owned by oil companies.
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@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Yep they are pretty powerful. Kinda sad.
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@skylark35 (384)
• United States
22 Jan 11
I was watching a video on youtube a day or so ago were this guy got sick of the gas prices and he build hem a electric car I don't no were he was from but he did say the gas prices were high .
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@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Yeah they've had electric cars for a while, but they have a lot of disadvantages. However, I'm sure it's worth it not having to pay for gas.
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@dogsnme (1264)
• United States
17 May 11
I read a book recently that mentioned something about the possibility of hydrogen powered cars. Actually, the book was about how the supposed global warming threat has been grossly overblown. The book mentioned the use of hydrogen power and in particular hydrogen powered cars as a future alternative to fossil fuels. Before I continue let me say that this book was written by a climatologist. In my own words so as not to directly quote the book, there are two main reasons why hydrogen is not yet used as an energy source for cars. First of all, hydrogen is far more flammable than gasoline. Think of the Hindenburg disaster. The reason the German airship went up in a huge ball of fire is because it was using hydrogen. If it had been using helium as it was designed to do the disaster could have been averted. So, the same would be true with automobiles. The danger of hydrogen igniting in a car, especially during refueling, would be far, far greater than with gasoline. Second, hydrogen's energy content is very low when compared to gasoline which means it would have to be compressed to very high pressures in order to provide a travel distance equal to that provided by gasoline. And, hydrogen doesn't exist naturally where we can just go pump it out of the earth and then just pump it right into our cars. Granted, hydrogen is one of the elements that makes up water but it is so tightly bound to oxygen in water that it takes quite a bit of energy to separate it from the water molecule. So that complicates the whole process even more. The technology for hydrogen power or any other alternative energy source is not as developed as you might think. And, while we hear a great deal from the popular media about the supposed evils of fossil fuels or about the supposed greed and corruption of "BIG OIL" the fact is that no alternative energy source is as viable as fossil fuels. They are just more efficient than solar, wind, hydrogen or any other alternative energy source and will most likely continue to be for many years to come. There is certainly nothing wrong with developing alternative fuels but we must realize that their development into viable fuel sources won't happen overnight if at all. Also, fossil fuels are not as detrimental to the environment as many would have us believe nor are some alternative fuels as "eco-friendly." And, while we may be fighting wars over oil you can certainly bet that if and when some alternative energy technology becomes the primary provider for our energy demands, there will be plenty of people who will find reasons to fight over it as well.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
17 May 11
You definitely make a good point and I'm not arguing anything you said. It's true that hydrogen vehicles have a long way to go and I don't expect them to be perfected overnight, but alternate energy is definitely being oppressed by the greedy and so it's making it all a lot more complicated than it truly needs to be. I know that alternate fuels aren't as eco-friendly as they make it out to be, but it's still a step in the right direction. A baby step is still making more progress than standing still.
@dogsnme (1264)
• United States
17 May 11
The politicians and the media are very adept at putting the blame for our energy woes on big oil. While there are those in all areas of business, including the oil industry, who are too greedy for their own good not all oil execs are crooked. Oil is a business just like any other. They are in the oil business to make money. Why? Because it has the potential to turn a good profit since everyone has a need for fuel and energy. It's no different, in principle, from any other business man who hopes to make a living or even get rich providing a good or service that other people need. But, saying that the greed of big oil is the reason these alternative technologies aren't getting developed is missing the target. Remember, these are business men and they are not going to turn down the chance of making even more money from an alternative technology if the potential was there. It's simply counterproductive. The fact is, the potential is not yet there to make a good profit from alternative energy. It's not because they are preventing the development of these alternatives but rather that we just haven't reached the point where we are technologically advanced enough to make them work. It's easy to blame someone else for our technological limits and failures but the truth is we are just not able to make them work yet in an economically efficient way.
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
22 Jan 11
I had also had for long this suspicion and have it to this day that the Oil Lobby is the one that is keeping the Hydrogen Car at bay.May be as presented in the media and the technical papers there still are difficulties in the management of the fuel storage part but the technology of combustion is in place...
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Thanks for your response.
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22 Jan 11
The money is in big oil, and the US has a lot of interest in it. Yes these cards would probably be cheaper to drive and MUCH better for the environment I can't see them becoming the norm as long as the big oil companies have so much influence and control of the world.
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@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Agreed. Well all kings eventually fall. The oil companies do have a lot of influence and control, but they can't keep it up forever.
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@auyuelin (231)
• China
22 Jan 11
Though the hydrogen powered cars had been invented but that can not be applicated in normal life,it is much more expensive than the gas powered car,and there is many promblems remain and waiting for ways to solve such as a cheap way to produce and store H2 and the motive power of the cars are not so strong,what is more,if we want to applicate hydrogen powered cars in normal life we should build a lot of H2 stations like gas stations and that is big project,so hydrogen powered cars can not be applicated in normal life nowadays.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
23 Jan 11
The hydrogen vehicles can actually be made for less money than gas powered ones. At first, I am sure that they would cost more just because they are new- greater demand, greater cost- but eventually costs would go down. Back when cars were first invented, only the wealthy owned them, now they are common. Another example is televisions. And actually these hydrogen vehicles run off of water. All you need to fill them up is water, any kind, even snow or tea. So there would be no need for stations at all- and I guess that could be another reason as to why they aren't on the market. Also, according to what I have read, these vehicles have just as much power. They are supposed to be able to go, I think, 80 miles per hour. Therefore, I believe that these vehicles are applicable to everyday life.
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