and when you grow up..

Right. Well? Was is the Jesus bobblehead? Or something more serious perhaps?

what you bubbling about now? want an explanation of jesus? somehow i doubt an idealistic, well-meaning hippy from 2000 years ago with excellent intentions but a shaky understanding of human nature is your cup of tea at all.

don't know who rattled your tank. anything else to add apart from you don't like me?

Then why did you post this in politics when it clearly has absolutely nothing to do with politics. It clearly belongs in Religion.

i didn't write it to offend people - i wrote it to see what responses i'd get. if i just wanted to offend people i'd idk start something like 'americans - most badly educated nation on earth?' or something. anyway one reason i suppose would be that buddhists don't go in for the conversion thing. or aggression.

because it was a follow-on question from the discussion i posted immediately before it - which was about religion but included political angle. but if you think this was put in the wrong place, wait till you see my next batch. they are mostly about voles.

i haven't converted to anything. this was an outside opinion.

They must be cos I'm wearing them. Well actually I'm not because I am indoors so I have my slippers on. But if I were outdoors I'd be wearing MBT shoes. MBT stands for Masai Barefoot Technology. Trust me they work: http://uk.mbt.com/Home/Benefits.aspx

a pike wearing shoes doesn't sound at all sensible to me.

don't be ridiculous. i'm not sure what mbt shoes are but i am sure they aren't sensible.

Hope you weren't disappointed. :D

it was a pretty electic mix and nobody has yet called me a poop, so yes, not disappointed.

not in great detail. not sure why i started this now to be honest - was interested in seeing what responses i'd get.

i'm 32 and have given up on growing up. if i haven't grown up by 100, then i'll think about out.

I have not stopped growing up, yet I have discovered some things in all this time. I started to study what I wanted at 35. I already had a university diploma but was not what I wanted. I had to chose between that and other important things many times. my path of life has always had bends where you don´t see a thing. There might be an anaconda or a sheeta ahead. Meanwhile, joints hurt and it´s more difficult to walk. I hope I don´t get to be 100. It tires me just to think about it.

that is very familiar. i started to study for a career change two years ago. i got my ma ten years before that and i suppose i could have gone on teaching until i retired. my path has peculiar bends too.

pretty much yes. not sure that it does have that many black eyes mind you. relatively speaking.

I wasn't being sarcastic. While we believe ourselves to be creatures of great reasoning power and logic, this may not be so. We may just be evolved to a stage where believing our logic to be trustworthy is key to our evolutionary success. How can we possibly claim to be the result of random mutations and evolution with no particular purpose and also confidently claim that our logic and reasoning is as high as it can get? To the point where we confidently declare our origins, our essence, our meaning or place in the universe? Seems unlikely. I can't declare anything to be the most sensible spiritual path, since if I am an accident of evolution then spirituality may not exist except as a concept my evolution has developed in my thinking to keep me sane, or calm; or evolution may have taught us that only beings who feel they have a purpose try very hard to survive. In any case, none of it is reliable or testable. The absence of God or spirituality is not testable, either. If we are just here by chance, there's really no point in discussing any of it, we can't possibly be trusted.

oh well. a discussion like this was kind of asking for sarcasm.

darling - i have no idea what to believe. buddhism is the most sensible i have ever seen. that is all. xx lavender sorts bugs

concur

very good

thanks. to be fair i think people can have genuine spiritual understanding in any religion, just some seem to be more badly interpreted than others.

I agree jb !