Which is more important?
By katsmeow1213
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
United States
January 28, 2011 3:11pm CST
Which do you think is most important? Paying off old debts that you've not paid on(not credit card or loans.. just things that have gone to collections or things that are judgements) or starting and building a savings account?
I have decided I'm taking half my paycheck each week and putting it towards debts and savings. Hubby's money covers the bills and that's about it, so he cannot put money towards debt or savings.
I don't know yet how much my paychecks will be, but I'm guessing not much. Minimum wage at 20 hours a week or less.. not to mention taxes, yikes! If I'm lucky my check might be about $50, so that means $25 a week for debt and savings.
Well, that's not much if I split it between both paying debts and building savings. It would be a lot more if I chose one thing to pay towards.. either debt or savings.
I want to say paying debt is more important.. but saving is just as important incase something happens like our car breaks down or our furnace dies or something.
What do you think is more important? How would you divide your money between paying debt and building savings?
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23 responses
@AmbiePam (92708)
• United States
31 Jan 11
Paying off debts, no doubt. If one is in debt, the savings are kind of moot, because you're going to have that debt hanging around anyway. The faster you pay it off, the faster your savings can really grow, because none of it is earmarked towards paying off old bills. When the bebt is gone one can get better interest rates on just about everything. And that's pretty big.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
31 Jan 11
It's going to take a life time to get out of debt. Hubby and I both have a ton of it! Most of it is old medical bills.. $4,000 for delivering one of my children, $2,000 for another.. that was with insurance too!
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
31 Jan 11
Definitely, paying down your debt is more important to do first. Since your credit isn't so good and you're not paying interest on your debt I'd also advise that you DO try to have some savings for emergencies like your car or furnace dying, but I'd say put most of what you can spare towards the debt. From things I've heard I'd also say DON'T go to any "credit counseling" service unless they're non-profit and I'm not even sure I'd advise it if they are. I don't think that would help someone in your case anyway since you said it's not credit card debt and that's what they usually deal with.
As others have already mentioned, creditors often do offer sizable discounts on the amount owed, especially if you're able to make them a firm promise to pay a minimum amount per month or whatever; however, I've also heard you should be careful to not make promises you're not sure you can keep. It would be better to tell them you'll pay say 1/2 of what you feel you'll actually be able to pay and then just double up when you can but you'll have the peace of mind of knowing if some emergency comes up you have a bit of a cushion.
I sure wish you luck and I want to tell you, I know what you're going through. Medical bill can be a real hassle and they sure don't take long to add up if there's an illness or accident.
Annie
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
31 Jan 11
There is no interest on my debt. It is not credit card or loan debt.. it's like old medical bills.. nothing within the past couple years, it's all really old. Plus I have many different creditors as each debt was sold to a different agency. Though I guess we're going to focus on the judgements as those are bigger black marks than just the creditors.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jan 11
Right.. not creating more debt would be a plus! I just wish interest rates were a little better. My bank has a .25% interest rate for savings accounts. That's 25 cents a year if I have $100 in my account.. woohoo! $2.50 if I have $1,000. LMAO!
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
28 Jan 11
im not sure which is most important. today without much money, you better have a good credit report so either way is good. i take any left over and split between paying off more debt and saving part. even if its only 50 bucks a month for each it helps.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jan 11
That is true, a little in abundance is a lot.
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@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
29 Jan 11
You can also dedicate your online earnings to one or the other. I know it is not much. I tend to use mine for the emergency savings side of the equation. I used it for Christmas shopping this winter, but I would really like it to go back into savings. It is easier for me not to touch my PayPal generally than it is for me not to touch bank savings. PayPal does have an option for money market rates--not high, but a little interest.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
29 Jan 11
I'm using my online earnings for Christmas this year to make it easier. With 5 kids it's tough to afford a decent Christmas. So far I've got over $20 saved up for Christmas.. and it's only January!
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@divalounger (6117)
• United States
29 Jan 11
This is always a difficult decision to make. Personally, I believe that you have to always pay yourself first, meaning that even if you save just a little, it is better to put something toward savings rather than nothing. That amount can increase as your debt level decreases.
Just my two cents
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@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
29 Jan 11
Right now, I would do as you have said and go 50 50. It is important to have that savings as an emergency fund, so that when something big happens you do not have to go into more debt to take care of it. I did this last year and was very glad I did. I just need to get back on it this year. Last year we were able to pay cash for a new water line, new breakers in the breaker box and a new hot water heater, plus the $400 water bill that happened because of the leaky water line. We have also been paying down some debt, but I feel like it is important to start getting money into my savings again.
@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
29 Jan 11
That is just scary. I do believe that you may have to spend some of it for fun, or it will never work out, but do have a good plan for the rest as well.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
29 Jan 11
As I sit here typing this, my husband is having a discussion with the twins who did not behave the last time grandpa watched them.. and grandpa has to watch them while I'm working. He's telling them about all the great things we'll be able to do with mom's money as long as they behave for grandpa and allow me to keep my job (grandpa threatened not babysitting because of their behavior for my interview!). Sadly, I think hubby has forgotten that I want to save and pay debt.. because he's digging us a huge hole just by telling the kids all the stuff they can expect me to pay for! (Water parks, festivals, fairs, sports) Looks like I'll need 3 jobs! One for saving, one for debt, and one for fun stuff hubby has promised the kids!
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
29 Jan 11
Yeah, I know. And I think that was my original plan.. that my money is spending money. His money is enough to get us by, but since we can't afford fast food once in awhile, or going out somewhere, we end up over drawing our bank account in order to do those things.. which as you know leads to fees and a snowball effect.
So we have a plan in place that will allow us to use his money for paying our current bills.
And, as I said, half of my pay will go towards savings and debts.
He should have a little extra at the end of the month if we do not overdraw the bank account anymore.
So we should be able to do some spending.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
29 Jan 11
As I stated.. I do not have credit card debt or loan debt. None of this is debt with interest.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jan 11
(not credit card or loans.. just things that have gone to collections or things that are judgements)
I'm talking $50,000 worth of debt.. all collections and judgements. That will take a lifetime to pay off.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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28 Jan 11
This may sound daft, but why do you want better credit? You don't need to run up more debt. But I do see the problem. I guess that all you can do is make a small constant contribution. But interest will erode your payment values I would think. It all depends on how much you can afford to pay. $25 a week will take you 50 Years to pay off and that's without interest! I can only wish you luck.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
29 Jan 11
There is no interest on my debt
I need credit so I can eventually move out of this sh*t hole trailer and into a house with a yard for my kids
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@GreenMoo (11834)
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28 Jan 11
In that case I would be tempted to put it ALL into savings until such time as you have enough to cover an unforseen emergency like a car break down or emergency travel. That way you will not incur further debt, of the interest bearing kind, should something happen. Once you have a small nest egg saved up, that's when I would start looking at reducing the debt.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
29 Jan 11
But if I don't pay on the debt I'll forever have bad credit and won't be able to get a house. We can't live in this tiny 3 room trailer forever.. we have no yard and I've got 5 crazy kids who need to vent some energy!
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jan 11
My debts don't charge interest. They're all medical debts that have gone to collections or to court. Still it effects my credit score and I want better credit so we can buy a house sometime within the next few years.
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@Raven1 (577)
• Australia
2 Jan 12
Definitely begin working on repaying your old debts first. These have the power to affect your future and your credit. Even little payments off those debts will help you take steps in the right direction.
Of course, building up some savings will also be very handy for emergencies, but don't ignore those unpaid debts. Put money towards repayments and keep a balance in a savings account. Keep loose change in a jar and add this amount to your savings when the jar is full. You'll get there if you create a plan and stick to it.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
31 Jan 11
Honestly, I think that having a rainy day fund is more important than pay off old debts. There are a variety of reasons for this. First of all, with old debt there is a point at which they are past the statute of limitations which means that you don't have to pay them and they aren't allowed to appear on your credit report. Secondly, not having the old debt hanging over your head isn't going to help you out when some unexpected bill comes up. That said, once you've built up a savings account that would cover a few months worth of bills, then I would start concentrating on paying off the old debts.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
31 Jan 11
Well I need to do both, otherwise we'll never get out of our current situation, which is super frustrating!
@randylovesdar (4932)
• United States
1 Feb 11
Dorannwin, do you know where I can look up to find out where the statures of limitations? My husband bought a car back in 1999 and unfortunately it was repoed in 2003, but it is still showing up on his credit report. I agree that having a savings plan is a great idea and I am hoping to be able to start doing that soon.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
31 Jan 11
I've had that dilemma before too. There is only so much money to go around. I know that it is important to get out of debt soonest, as it tends to nag at the back of your head, but it is also important to put savings on in case of emergencies.
I've made it in such a way that all my savings get deducted even before I see my paycheck. So whatever I get, just goes to debt servicing. I know it's just a trick, but so far it is working.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
31 Jan 11
Unfortunately I don't think my job offers direct deposit, otherwise I would set that up to have a small portion go straight into savings as well. I plan on just setting aside a certain amount each week to go towards savings and debts.
@puccagirl (7294)
• Israel
28 Jan 11
I think both are important, but I think paying off debt is more important, so I would probably prioritize that. But I would still save a little as well, if I only could. The most important thing with savings, after all, is to save SOMETHING, no matter how much it is, so you get into the habit of saving.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jan 11
Right, so if I have $25 a week to split between debt and savings, I should put $20 towards debt and $5 towards savings.
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
1 Feb 11
Personally getting a Savings account going so you have $$ for a rainy day or Emergencies, and for just to do something with is a great idea, but sometimes you need to also be trying to pay on some of the other things because in time they will all find out you are working and then want some of your $$ whether you are giving it to them or not. Being responsible is what most people say is worth it, but also trying to put some aside for Emergencies is another good thing for sure. So if you can do a little of both as you can afford it, will really help with the Stress levels in your life as well.
@sukumar794 (5040)
• Thiruvananthapuram, India
31 Jan 11
It is survival which has the top priority while living up the life in full . Old debts, financial commitments of the past, liabilities etc only come later because caring for the basic needs of the family is prioritized than anything else.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Feb 11
I'd like to think both are, but having a lot of old debt costs you money in interest and fees and crud, so my reality is that I try and pay off as much as I can, and end up saving not so much.
@randylovesdar (4932)
• United States
1 Feb 11
I know how it feels to have debt. My husband and I have some debt (no fault of our own). My husband's company does not offer health insurance and he has really bad eyes. We owe money to the doctor (luckily he is great enough to arrange a payment plan instead of reporting us to the credit bureau). My husband and I have a credit card that we owe $700.00 to. Money has been so tight that it is hard to afford even the basics. I am not working right now because the economy is so bad that there are no jobs available. My husband is only working part-time which is hurting us badly. I wish there was a way for my husband and I to pay off the debt and start saving.
Is there any way you can make money online as well to pay off your debt as well? I know I am looking into ways to make a little extra money in order to pay off my debts.
I think saving money is a great idea in case of an emergency. I wish I had thought about an emergency fund before getting into debt.
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
4 Feb 11
If what you said is that your debts are interest free, then a 50-50 split between savings and debts is okay. You really need to build your emergency fund(at least 6 months worth of your salary) so if a family member gets sick or get unemployed you have money to sustain you through this period and not resort to getting into debt.
Once you have established your emergency fund, you can put all your money to debt payments.
But if the debts are interest-bearing, the portion allocated to debt payments should be greater than the savings. Finish-off first those debts with higher interest rates.
@jesscatapano (14)
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29 Nov 11
I know this post is a bit older but it stuck out to me as I scrolled past....
Almost any financial advisor would say to pay down current debt first (things you are not in collections or way overdue on) and then build a savings. IF debt has been deliquent and is in collections, they suggest not paying it because if you start making payments and then default again, you restart the statute of limitations. In most states it's about 7 years from the date of last deliquency. So, if you didn't or couldn't pay for 4 years (example) and then turn around and pay some and then can't keep up with it and default, that restarts the SOL from day 1 all over again!! and you lose the four years of the 7. One it hits the end of the statute of limitations they can not legally come after you for it anymore, EVER. Even if a new company buys the debt, they can NOT collect on it due to the SOL.
So if you are talking about OLD debts in collections, etc VS savings, I'd definitely go for the savings. Forget the bills. Let the SOL work in your favor.