Does God really punish people..?
By chayapathys
@chayapathys (2111)
India
February 8, 2011 10:47pm CST
Generally we punish people who do wrong to us.Sometimes it happens those who do wrong may be stonger than us or we may not be able to punish them for various reasons.Under such circumstances we contend ourselves saying that God will punish them as we are not able to do anything.As we hear God is kind and full of mercy and also forgive our sins.Therefore my doubt is whether God will really punish them at our instancce for doing wrong to us...
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@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
9 Feb 11
I am not a bible expert and I cannot firmly give the bible verse that will answer your question. However, to my opinion, the term is not "punish" rather God will do the wrong doer something to learn for. What I mean, if someone did wrong to you, that person will experience the same thing as he/she did to you or even worse. The happening is not a punishment from God for doing something wrong, rather God wants that person to feel and realize what he/she did. That is why God's number 1 commandment is to love one another as you love yourself. Hence, never do something to others what you do not want others do unto you. Plus, any wrong you do to others will bounce back and even worse.
As per my understanding then, it is not a mere punishment from God because I believe He does not punish. Whatever will happen to the person who did wrong is not a punishment from God, it is a consequence of what he did.
I hope I made a sensible response my friend though I cannot give the biblical answer.
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@johnpillai (2082)
• Germany
9 Feb 11
I am also not a bible expert. But I like to share what I understand. God is not only love. He is a judge also. He gets angry and angry when we make sisn again and again. But as he is full of love he keeps patience; and gives us plenty of chances to correct ourselves. If we missuse his patients he may punishes us. Personaly I always have a scare that God will punish me for my faults. This scare leads me to try for a sinless life. But I am a very simple human being with this and that.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
10 Feb 11
In our normal life also many of us behave properly for fear of punishment if we do wrong.No doubt that God is full of love still the fear of punishment is there for many of us.The Government also punishes those who do not behave properly. God is very powerful and He has many ways of showering favours and also many ways of punishment.But we do not His ways.Many times we hear people saying if some one behaves badly and subsequently he faces difficulties that God has punished him.Therefore the fear of punishment from God is recognised by one and all..
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
13 Feb 11
I sort of agree with you, Maean_19. I believe that God punishes in the Last Judgment. What appears today as God's punishment is actually as you say, a consequence of our actions. God tells us in Genesis that those who harmed Cain will be punished seven times. When you take revenge on someone, it's possible you can be punished seven times just as the person you take revenge against will already get his seven times punishment. In other words, like the laws of nature, there are laws that are automatic when you break them. If you speed on a 40 degree curve, then you will crash. That is a law of physics you could have followed. If you kill somebody, you get punished 7 times. That is the law of God. Yet, you can sin and do wrong, face bad circimstances for your actions, and still get into Heaven, if you change.
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@achilles2010 (3051)
• India
9 Feb 11
Dear chayapathys it is a nice question. If we look around we see that God does not punish people who do wrong, on the contrary they are enjoying life more than others. The righteous who are honest and truthful suffer. It appears they are suffering though they have done no wrong.
After God created this world he went away. He went away to create another world. However, he said "Whenever and where ever there is a decline in religious practice,O descendent of Bharta (to Arjuna in Gita), and a predominant rise of irreligion-at that time I descend myself To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants,as well as to reestablish the principles of religion,Imyself appear millennium after millennium "
@achilles2010 (3051)
• India
10 Feb 11
"Deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants" more or less has the same meaning. Annihilation is a sort of punishment.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
13 Feb 11
By punishing the wicked the Lord helps the pious people to survive.He may also shower some favours on the pious for being good in nature and behaviour.In essence the concept of punishment by God is good for the happy coexistence human race on this earth...
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
10 Feb 11
What you say is the words of Lord Krishna to Arjuna in Bagawath Gita.The Lord says that he will take birth in a millinium to punish the wicked and help the righteous people.So the concept of punishment by God is there in Hinduism.I do not know about other religions.It must be there.Whether God punishes or not the very fear of punishment regulates the human behaviour on earth.Otherwise men also live lives on instict like animals without reasoning...
@spiderlizard22 (3444)
• United States
9 Feb 11
It depends on which god you are talking about. I know that there are more then two religions where a god or gods punish people.
@spiderlizard22 (3444)
• United States
11 Feb 11
There are religions that have more then one god. The god you believe in is different then a god somebody else believe in. I heard two theist disagree about what god is. Are all the religions correct? Are all claims about god is correct? I heard one pastor imply that the trinity is three gods yet they are one which doesn't make sense. If the trinity exist one at at time then it can be one god but if the trinity exist three at the same time then that means they are more then one god.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
10 Feb 11
As I understand there is only one God for all of us.Though there are many religions still the concept of one God is there and many accept it. In Hinuism only there are number of Gods sand we consider God Yama only punishes the wrong doers.Even in Hinduism the concept of one God is recognised and accepted by many of us....
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
13 Feb 11
Whether there is one God or number of Gods we are concerned only with the subject whether God or Gods really punish human beings if they do wrong.If in what way...
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
13 Feb 11
The God of the Bible is forgiving unintentional errors but punishes deliberate wrongdoers. Exodus 34:6-7 (Young's Literal Translation) 6and Jehovah passeth over before his face, and calleth: `Jehovah, Jehovah God, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abundant in kindness and truth, 7keeping kindness for thousands, taking away iniquity, and transgression, and sin, and not entirely acquitting, charging iniquity of fathers on children, and on children's children, on a third [generation], and on a fourth.'
Exodus 34:6-7 (New International Version, ©2010) 6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.”
Justice will be served!
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
17 Feb 11
That's the way I understand things, that God is very patient and forgiving. He will teach us to do better. He does not jump at every mistake we make. He allows the natural laws to correct us and gave us a guide by which to live. We will make some mistakes but over all we can follow his laws and avoid a lot of mistakes. He is very fair and loving.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
17 Feb 11
According to you if mistakes are committed out of ifnorance or unintention will be definitely excused by God as He is full of mercy and kindness.If they are deliberate He alone knows how to punish and He has his own methods of punishment .As mortals we cannot even imagine them...
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
13 Feb 11
You remind me of a debate I had with my uncle and his friends. I brought up the fact that God does not want us to kill (humans). My uncle brought up Cain. Although the Bible tells us that Cain was cursed, he asked me why was Cain rewarded with having his own city? He brought up my point that God decreed that no one touch Cain without being punished seven times. Thus, according to my uncle, Cain couldn't have been punished. When I got home I read that after killing Abel, Cain had seven descendants. The last descendant, Lamech's, had two wives. He killed a kid for insulting him and killed another man who attacked him. Then he bragged that if anyone harmed him, they would be punished "seventy and seven fold." After Lamech's two sons, there are no more. Yet, we see all of Seth's generations as we see other people in other parts of the Bible (including Canaan who is cursed by Noah). So I see that God has his own way of punishing and not seeming to punish.
One more thing, I think that people who do evil and don't appear to be punished, might have actually distanced themselves from God because they are too much into worldly things. They will get their worldly things, but their judgement will be bitter and cruel. They will reap what they sew.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
17 Feb 11
As you say God has his own ways of punishing the wicked.No one likes bad people including God.So if bad people are not punished they gain strength and also grow in number.In what way God punishes is known to Him only and not to us.That is mystery behind God's punishment..
@faouzi1984 (5)
• Morocco
13 Feb 11
i have to believe that god is going to punish people, if i don't believe that the foundation my religion will collapse, god created this universe and created people to worship him and do as much as they can of good things, so if god didn't reward the gratefuls and punishs the sinfuls than the justice will not be achieved, i live by this opinion, if someone hurt me and i couldn't redeem my right i let it to god to do that for me, if god tell us this is the right way, take it, and some people choose go the other way, the logic say that punishment is the fair thing to do.
i hope i didn't messed up because of my poor english.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
17 Feb 11
It is not the English language that counts.It is your view and opinion.God does punish the wicked and in what manner and what time He alone knows.After all we are mortals and how can we know?.The fear of punishment by God mostly regulated human conduct on earth.May God bless you..
@amirev777 (4117)
• India
9 Feb 11
Hi
I dont think it is God who punishes us, God is too kind for punishing us.But what I feel that it is our own 'Karma' that leads to our punishment. There a saying-what you sow, so shall you reap. Whatever bad we do to others will surely rebound on us some time or the other, there is no escape.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
13 Feb 11
The karma theory is good but many times people forget about it and act like animals on instinct which is very bad.We are not always consious of karma theory and conduct ourselves as our mind directs without thinking about the consequences.If our actions are good it is OK but when they are bad then the queation of punishment by God heps a lot.It heps us to live regulated and happy life...
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
9 Feb 11
People commit evil because they do not fully understand what it is. Everything you do in life will come back to you in time. This teaches you what your actions really mean. You learn. You understand. It has never been about punishment. It's about education. This simple action that returns everything back to us not only teaches us what our actions mean,it teaches us to love unconditionally. After all, that is what we all want back. Also realize, we could never learn all that can be learned in one lifetime.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
13 Feb 11
What you say is the essence of karma theory which says you reap the fruits of your action.If it is good you reap benifits and it is bad you you get bad things in return.If this thery is accepted there is need to advocate the idea of puniahment by God.What ever it may be the fear of punishment by Good certainly regulates human behaviur in the right direction...
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
9 Feb 11
I don't believe that God is the punisher of people. God is the healer of all things. It is what we do to ourselves that punishes us. We can not blame God for all of the wrong things in our lives.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
10 Feb 11
No doubt God is full of love and mercy.But in almost all the religigions the concept of reward and punishment by God is recognised.Whether God really punishes or not the fear of punishment itself regulates the human conduct on this earth otherwise men would behave on instinct like animals without any reasoning.To that extent the concept of punishment by God should be accepted..
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
16 Feb 11
The universal rules are common to all people wherever they may be living with little variation depending upon the location.The God wants us to follow them and if any one violates His rules the fear of punishment by God is there to bring such people to the right path...God bless you...
@visavis (5934)
• Philippines
9 Feb 11
Before God punishing people or someone He warned first or reminded then if not obey He punish for the sake people learn from that sin. In the bible use the word Chastisement for God action to us.
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
16 Feb 11
You that God gives warning before punishing people and still if they don't mend their ways Hew ceertainly punishes them so thaqt others may learn lesson.It is also true to great extent but people are unable to prove this concept with any concrete cases..
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
19 Feb 11
You mean to say that God is merciful to those who are upright.What about those who are wicked?They really do not derserve any pity or mercy.Such people will be punished by God.How to punish the wicked He only knows.He has His own methods of punishing people who are bad and wicked.God bless you..
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
19 Feb 11
According to you God gives Moksha as per Hindu thinking.What about those who are cruel and wicked and bad.Should they go unpunished?.Should they aslo be given moksha?If the bad people are not punished this world would be full of bad people only.What do you say..?
@michaeltandoc (69)
• Philippines
9 Feb 11
I am not a bible expert too just like others who have said this in the first line of their sentences. But here is what I can say. Yes, God is merciful. He does not punish while we are still living because He still await for us to ask for forgiveness and repent. This is the grace of God for us no matter how sinful we are on earth. The only time God punishes us sinners is when we die and we face judgment day. At judgment day, you can not ask for forgiveness anymore. It's too late. It is the time of recalling all the things you did while you were still alive. At judgment day, you will be immediately cast into hell when we do not deserve to receive God's grace in paradise because of our sins. This is all I can share. God bless.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
11 Feb 11
Your question enters into a rather complex and tortured landscape. The answer depends on which concept of a god or gods you chose to embrace. The whole concept of a wrathful and vengeful god is central to the Abrahamic god of the Tanakh, the Bible and the Qur'an. It is from this stern paternalistic concept of a god that the idea of sin arises.
Sin is not just any wrong doing. It is a transgression of the perceived laws of this father figure. The real problem comes when people do not rely on a god to punish these transgressions and take it upon them selves to met out punishment. No problem when the pronouncements are such things as, "thou shall not kill" but when they enter into punishing people for working on the sabbath of a particular religion or such things as "suffer a witch not to live" that the real evil starts to stem from religion.