How do you deal with people who always change their minds?
By scheng1
@scheng1 (24649)
Singapore
February 9, 2011 10:41pm CST
I really hate to work with people who always change their mind.
Imagine the boss asks you to prepare a report, and you spend hours preparing the report.
Sometimes, the additional work makes you stay back, since you need to clear your routine work as well.
Then the boss changes her mind, and wants this or that into the report.
How do you deal with people like that?
It is very annoying when a friend calls you to cancel the appointment, right after you have showered, and prepared to go out.
It is even worse to work for a person who does not make up her mind.
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18 responses
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
10 Feb 11
How do I deal? Well, I make the person or persons aware that I don't appreciate the fact that they are wishy washy and can never just MAKE A DECISION AND STICK TO IT... and then if that behavior continues, I usually end up purging my life of them. If I don't entirely, they become people that I can handle every once in awhile in small doses and keep it that way.
Those who always change their minds cannot be counted on, they are hard to make plans with, and it is not worth the hassle that *I* have to go through in order to set up anything that I plan to do with the person.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
14 Feb 11
Well you definitely should not be working for free! That may even be unlawful as far as reporting it to the labor board or something. I know when I worked full time, my company was actually investigated one time due to being suspected of not always giving their employees the proper breaks and lunch. It got to the point where we were REQUIRED to clock out and we could not even work through our lunches for awhile because there was some nosy person who reported they weren't getting their required benefits lol.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 Feb 11
Hi Mommyboo, the labor law in our country is different.
It protects mainly those in the low income bracket. Most of the office staff are out of the range of the labor law.
The fast food workers, the supermarket cashiers, the factory operators, the cleaners and other workers with low basic salary are protected.
The normal working hour per week is 44 hours.
Overtime payment for overtime work, up to a maximum of 72 hours per month.
However, for those of us in office environment, as long as our salary is a dollar above the $2000, our bosses can require us to work till midnight, and need not pay a single cent.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Mommyboo, if the company pays overtime for extra work, I would not mind so much. In fact, I may even feel glad that the boss keeps changing her mind, so that we can earn extra.
However, I hate it when we need to stay back and work for free.
That will really get me into a bad mood, if it happens again and again.
I agree that it is not worth the hassle to deal with people who are wishy washy. I will not make appointments with those friends if I can avoid it. I think using text messenging service is good enough to keep our friendship afloat.
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@Jlyn10 (11965)
• Malaysia
10 Feb 11
Well, we can't complain much if it comes from the Boss as we get paid for being irritated as well. But if it comes from a Supervisor or Superior, then he/she will be getting a piece of my mind :D I can accept it if friends were to cancel an appointment after I had my shower cause I have not left the house yet, but I won't be happy if I am somewhere out sitting and waiting.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Jlyn, just the other day, my friend made me wait two hours for her.
I was really boiling mad. From my house to the meeting place, the travelling time was just half an hour.
But I ended up waiting two hours for her, because she was stuck in the clinic for medical checkup, and she did not even have the courtesy to call me, to tell me that the clinic was very crowded.
I think that is very selfish of her, especially since she reached the clinic way before I left my house.
Come to work matter, the boss as in the founder of the company, is usually not the person who keeps on changing his mind.
Otherwise he will never even start a business if he is so indecisive.
The ones who keep on changing their minds are the supervisors. They want to please the boss, yet do not know what the boss wants.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
HI Jlyn, I think those working under the supervisor must be boiling mad at her constant changing of mind.
I think her boss will tell her off if everyone starts to complain.
Anyway she will not change. That is a character trait. Just hope that she does not behave arrogantly.
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
10 Feb 11
I guess it is a very difficult situation for a person to work with such a boss. I know the other side here--my husband is extremely rigid, so rigid that I have to think twice before commiting whether it is jam and bread or butter and bread for breakfast. I must be sure of my facts, as to the availability of the particular product at home and tell him so. sO, i check first before making any official announcement.
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
11 Feb 11
You have misunderstood what I had written or I have been unclear. My husband does not decide the breakfast; he will go without breakfast if need be. THe issue is thta I should not change my mind.I decide on the breakfast, the serving of one or not.He is the least fussy about his food but cannot tolerate dilly dallying.
However, it is the accepted thing for females to provide any sort of meal, in our country and in many households. THe modern young couple may vary but this is the traditional hosuehold.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Ah, now I understand, so sorry about misunderstand your sentences.
I think it is good to plan your breakfast ahead, so that you do not serve butter and bread every day.
Sometimes it has to do with the nutritional value of the breakfast.
If I have too much bread in a row, I will try to switch to oatmeal or cereal bars. However, it takes conscious effort to plan.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Kalav, my goodness, you even need your husband to decide on the breakfast!
I think many of us just will not bother about it.
Most of us in Singapore eat breakfast on the go, or in the office. It is not a norm to ask the spouse to prepare breakfast.
However, if the maid is around, then the family will ask the maid to prepare breakfasts.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
11 Feb 11
I had bosses like that. I didn't mind them changing their minds unless that meant they were going to get upset about all the work I didn't get to while I was appeasing them. When that happened I would remind them what they had me doing and ask which one they wanted done.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
12 Feb 11
Hi Mommaj, I thought you are always changing your mind about what to cook for dinner every evening.
The hungry ghosts complain about how you chop them up half way, then decide not to cook them for dinner, and choose to cook chicken instead.
After defrosting the chicken, you put it back to the refrigerator, and hunt for earthworms instead.
Oh no, I recall wrongly. The hungry ghosts say you catch the live hens, pluck off all the feathers, then decide not to kill them.
That is why some hens have no feather, and some hens have half the body with feathers, and the other side without.
It is too bad of you to chop the hungry ghosts into three or four pieces, then glue them back.
They look just like the scrap metals!
Next time make up your mind before cooking.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
24 Jul 11
Hiya scheng,
They are really annoying sometimes but you can get that a lot of times without being at work even.
Last night I asked the Kids will you be eating in or out tonight. Two of them said I don´t know and I thought here we go again.
So in the end I did a plate for them all well two courses very simple ones left it all covered up and let them get on with it.
Then they wonder why us Girls get annoyed with their continual dithering about this that and the other.xxx
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
25 Jul 11
Hi Lovinangelsinstead21, those kids are really thoughtless.
They probably never think about the effort that goes in to the preparation of dinner.
I think you should let them plan the meals in a day, from marketing right down to washing plates.
Then they would understand how much effort is taken to select the freshest vegetables, the fish, and then cooking, and finally washing.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
25 Jul 11
Hiya scheng,
Oh I have tried that one already and it does not work with them at all. Its like water off a Ducks back it really is.
They are quite hardened to all that about wait till you are on your own to cope thing they shrug their Shoulders.
But that is now and they have been on their own before as well so I might as well talk to the brick Wall in that sense.
All their Friends are the same they live on their own a lot of them but always go to Big Mac or to their Moms to eat (grin).
Can´t win can you?
Take care now.xxx
@raj7shot (838)
• India
10 Feb 11
It will happen in every office.We can't blame anyone for that.If you are in such position then you will came to know the issues and headache of such position.
Work will come more some day and there will not be any work some day.This is usual n all offices and all bosses.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Raj, it is not such a big problem if the company pays for overtime.
I mean many factory operators also need to stay late when parts get rejected, and they have to work through the night.
It is a different story if the boss keeps changing her mind, and causing everyone to work late without extra pay.
All the extra work is wasted, since the moment it is done, she wants it another way again.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Pogi, it does not bother us if we do not have to work with them or live with them everyday.
It does bother us if such persons happen to be our bosses.
I will not mind so much if our colleagues cannot make up their minds about what to eat or not.
It does not matter to me.
However, if bosses keep changing their minds, and want the report done this way, and that way, it is hard to work.
@gloryacam (5540)
• Philippines
11 Feb 11
I have lived like this for two years and counting. Everyday, my boss just doesn't seem to make up his mind. It got us thinking whether he had multiple personality disorder or something like that. I have a document which I've been working on for almost a year (Yes, almost a year!), which I actually "inherited" from people who were previously in my post, that just doesn't end. I mean, it's a very important document which must be approved and implemented, but the boss just keeps changing and re-changing it. And it's not just my document. Pretty much every one else's outputs here are changed, re-changed and re-changed again! How exasperating!
@doggydimon (1369)
• Philippines
11 Feb 11
True! I hate it when your superior just changes their mind. I had an experience 2 months ago. He told me to do this project for an expo. I tried making it for days and when I submitted it, he wants it different. So that is what I did. And after a few days, he wants it just as the one I made before. What a waste of time!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Doggydimon, I can understand your frustration.
It is really a waste of time. Fortunately you have not reached a stage where you call suppliers or start to set up the expo.
That will be even worse than just changing the proposal.
I just hope your superior does not do this too often.
@chaos123 (132)
•
11 Feb 11
Hi, scheng1!i hate people who always change their minds. Totally, if people in this type told me she want to travel with me, no way!! This really annoy if u prepare everything and just start planing with it, the guy told you she has no time..I will be angry and never go out with her next time!!! If she is your boss, what you can do is doing the report and if she is u best friend, just give her some suggestion..
@Lucyalicia92 (670)
• United States
10 Feb 11
yeah it can be frusterating but you just have to stay patient and keep with it. hopefully these things don't occur too often or you may have to put your foot down and tell them how stressful this is on you.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Lucyalicia, I will definitely avoid making appointments with friends who do not know what they want.
I just had a bad experience waiting for two hours for my friend to turn up for appointment.
She was held up in a medical checkup.
She could have called me before I left my home, to tell me how crowded the clinic was, and that she would not make it on time.
She never did that. When I got angry, and wanted to go home, she kept on messaging me and said coming, coming.
I took just thirty minutes to travel down, and ended up waiting for two hours. Just how ridiculous it was.
@cashsearcher11 (153)
• Philippines
11 Feb 11
Yeah, really annoying! changing mind in a wink of time, really silly! when it comes to work it should not be like that coz you cant finish any of them. I often change my mind but not related to work, more about my decisions from day to day... from what will i do next, tomorrow, next week.. etc. I always like that. I never give assurance to others until i fix my mind, coz i dont want to wait too.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Cashsearcher, it is good of you not to commit until you are very sure what you want.
It is very annoying to make appointment with friends, after hours or days of negotiating where to meet, what to do, when to meet, and then just when you are about to step out of the house, friends call to cancel the appointment.
I hate this kind of last minute change, especially when I need to push off other appointments just to keep this meeting.
@daisypiano (2)
• Philippines
10 Feb 11
i also hate people who have an attitude like that, but we cannot change their behavior if they perform like that.. we have to understand for being what they are..we have to accept that they are like that..we need to accept that there are people like that...make sense?
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Daisypiano, most people want to get out of working for bosses like that.
It is very frustrating to finish a report, then the boss changes this or that, or end up not using.
Those working in big companies will ask for a transfer to other departments, hoping to get away from such bosses.
Those working in small companies either get use to it, or find job in other companies.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Mkd, I do not mind talking about weather or other things with them, but where work is concerned, it is very trying to work with them.
i do not like my friends to keep on changing their minds too.
Very hard to arrange for anything.
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@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
10 Feb 11
hi scheng,
you are right Scheng,some times boss do like this,at that time ,we think if possible to kill the boss,the entire work we have done is waste and once again we have to start from the beginning, you may have an appointment with doctor or promise of going to movie with family,so feel lot of difficulty,have a nice day
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Yugasini, if the boss pays overtime for us to work late, and to complete the report or whatever, I guess we will not get mad.
The problem comes when we do not get paid extra for working late into the night, and then find out that our effort is wasted.
I just hope that our friends can make up their minds before arranging for an outing, otherwise it is very disappointing.
@vangie26 (445)
• Philippines
10 Feb 11
Honestly, when it comes to work and it's the boss who always change the mind, it's quite hard esp if you really need the job. But if it just another source of income, better say to the boss that the work is messed up because of the changes that they keep on asking. But say it in a low tone. With people around us, yes it's annoying but still depends on the reasons why they change their minds specially when it comes to schedule :-)
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
10 Feb 11
Hi Vangie, I hardly talk to any boss in a low voice.
They should count themselves lucky that I never go to see their bosses.
I think when the turnover rate under a particular manager is very high, everyone also knows the problem.
Maybe the culture matters too.
Over here, sometimes the subordinates dare to scream at the bosses, and then tell the whole company about it.
Then the CEO or COO will ask the manager to see him, ask him why everyone talks so negatively about him.
@tiffnkeat (1673)
• Singapore
10 Feb 11
If it is bosses, I would advise to just swallow your pride rather than shout. Some people can be vengeful. As for friends, if they are close, no harm to show or hint your unhappiness. But don't let it affect your friendship. I have a friend who doesn't keep to timing more than "let aeroplane fly", if you know what I mean. Some people takes time to change. I have waited under the hot sun for a friend who claimed he left his home as planned and ended up 1 and half hours late. I was boiling and showed my unhappiness. Now? We are still good friends and he is still late for meetings.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
11 Feb 11
Hi Tiffnkeat, the other day I waited for my friend for more than two hours.
She wanted to go to the lawyer office to get the lawyer to represent her in a freak accident in a supermarket.
After waiting for her for more than two hours, she finally came, and when we were in the lawyer office, she asked me to wait outside while she talked to the lawyer.
I was boiling mad.
What for waste my time if she did not want me to join in?
I think I will not go out with her for quite a long time. No harm talking on the phone, but not making appointment to go anywhere else.
@lexirose7350 (459)
• Philippines
10 Feb 11
We are in the same boat,i hate people who always change their minds.I get pissed off because sometimes you have to sacrifice your time just to do the favor.but i think all we could do is just to deal with it, part of our everyday life. :)
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
10 Feb 11
Hi Lexirose, I am more tolerant of bosses even though I will complain non-stop, after all we receive our salary.
However, for personal friends, I will avoid making appointment.
It is very disappointing to make table reservation, then our friends call to say they do not feel like going out.
I wonder what is the use of friends like that! I might as well go out on my own, at my own sweet time.