Traffic stuff...

@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
February 10, 2011 1:44pm CST
Been in a lot of doctor's offices lately. Read a lot of magazines. At the oral surgeon the other day there was a large print Reader's Digest that had people's questions about traffic laws. Did you know that even if your state allows a right turn on red, that you are not obligated to turn? And that if the impatient guy behind you starts honking, HE can be cited? Did you know that signalling and then making a lane change isn't enough? If you don't signal at least 100 feet ahead of the lane change, you can be cited. Those are the only two that I remember. So, are you the person not turning right because it's a bad corner? Or are you the impatient person honking the horn? And do you signal? With lots of warning? Or do you think turn signals ought to be optional equipment? And why is it that cops don't have to use their signals?
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@Torunn (8607)
• Norway
11 Feb 11
Cops do have to use their signals here. Unless they have the sirene (sp?) on, then I suppose you can assume that everyone's supposed to stop and get out of the way anyway. And no right turns on red. In Melbourne they had right turns on red (left turn for us), you'd weave in with the ones turning left from the other direction. Very confusing. I know that pedestrians don't get fined for walking on red here. I think it's us and two other obscure countries somewhere that don't have that law. A bit like the US and the SI-standards. The US, Burma and Liberia :-) The things you find out in physics class *hehe* Back to driving: most of the time I'm very good. I don't speed, I use the right signals in due time and I don't drive fast through water and splash on pedestrians. However, if you are stuck in the wrong lane down Okstadbakken, I will stay behind and honk. All the way up or down the hill if necessary. As that's the only two lane road I drive regularly, that's the one chance I have ;-)
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Jaywalkers get fined here, that includes crossing on red and crossing where there's no intersection. But nobody walks here, so how often does that happen. It really drives me nuts when people with small children jaywalk.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
yeah that's strange... Jaywalking on a small street with no traffic is one thing, but on a busy one, with children, that's scary.
@Torunn (8607)
• Norway
11 Feb 11
I do it all the time. But then it's no crime :-) In Finland last summer I shocked my friends by walking diagonally across the crossings. When all the lights are green, why do an angle? You just walk straight across! But not there, and that's not too far away from here. In Vienna you get fined for cycling in the pavement. We don't have that law either, but if you walk with your horse (not ride it, just walk it like a dog) you are considered a motor vehicle. I think that's strange.
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@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
11 Feb 11
Large print and traffic laws...... hmmmmm.....
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
large print?
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
oh duh
@rocketj1 (6955)
• United States
12 Feb 11
braille?
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
10 Feb 11
The things you learn when you can read the typeface!LOL I'm a very considerate driver and rarely lose my temper at the traffic. People are idiots behind the wheel and I'm very aware of that, so I don't let it bother me. As for the cops not using their signals, the only accident I've ever had that really ticked me off was plowing into the back end of a cop car that made a sudden right turn into a parking lot without using his signal. I figured he'd keep on going straight and I had sped up a little to make my turn into the same parking lost because the bozo behind me was crawling up my exhaust pipe and I wanted to get away from him. The officer gave me a ticket too, but I fought it and the cop had to apologize to me. I wonder who ended up paying his car repair bill? lol
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• Regina, Saskatchewan
11 Feb 11
I rather think he had to pay out of his own pocket. He was off duty and never should have been using a 'company' car at that time anyway. The Judge was some ticked that he thought just because he was a cop he thought didn't have to obey traffic regs....
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
could be they refused to cover him...
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
You and the other taxpayers, of course!
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@celticeagle (166976)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Feb 11
I am SOOOO glad to hear these things. Two things I either wondered about or was a pet peeve of mine. I hate to have someone honk at me when I don't feel like I can safely make a right turn. In our state they are legal. And I really have a pet peeve about signaling. I think people need to signal afew feet away from the actual turn or lane change. They used to! Any more people turn as they are turning. Just another example of the self involved people of today.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Don't you love the people who start signalling as they are moving into the lane, as if it's a victory signal or something?
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@celticeagle (166976)
• Boise, Idaho
11 Feb 11
Oh, yes. And stay in the wrong lane until the very last minute, then make this long procession right infront of you where you have to screach to a halt to avoid them. And then they look at you like your the idiot!!
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
13 Feb 11
Just yesterday, I saw a cop car approach an intersection and did something I thought was an abuse of power. Their lane was on red so it took the left lane which is supposed to be for left turn, overtook other cars, and then it opened up it's lights. Everybody in the intersection saw the lights and stopped. And then the cop car crossed the intersection. After a few blocks the lights turned off. They did use their signals there, but to get an unfair advantage.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
Oh great. It's one thing if they have to take off to respond to an emergency, but just to get somewhere faster?
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
14 Feb 11
Maybe they call it 'perks' of the job.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
Or corruption perhaps?
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
11 Feb 11
Dawny, traffic rules only apply to idiots, sorry. Here we do as we like and use nothing to indicate or what ever. We don't stop for anything or any sign at all. If someone honk behind you, you get out and teach him that a hooter is not something to play with. We are only stupid idiots in this country. TATA.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
How do you teach them?
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
11 Feb 11
You don't. They are unteachable.
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
13 Feb 11
They'll ask me too leave, in 2 seconds, Viji.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
12 Feb 11
Because Cops can do as they please they are the Cops so who is going to cop them Yes I do signal well in advance and I would not turn the Corner if it was a bad Corner no So I guess you will sit behind me and beep the Horn?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
No, but I might mutter something under my breath!
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
20 Feb 11
Yep, I knew about both those laws and I follow them. I've been caught behind the guy not turning but I don't honk because that too is a violation. It's so annoying though when I want to go round and cannot because doofus there is in the wrong lane....greedy pig. Of course it's a left turn where I come from. As for the cops, they are pretty dilligent around here. The numbers on their vehicles is very large and easy to see and they can be held accountable by the boss when they get back to base and someone has reported them. I must try and ascertain if cops can also get demerit points off their licence.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Feb 11
I will never forget the time I was learning to drive a stick shift, was having trouble getting it in gear, and some impatient jerk behind me called me an a**hole...
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
11 Feb 11
Cops get to disobey all the rules, the same ones for which we'd get tickets if we broke 'em! U-turns, speeding, running red lights--you name it, they get away with it. I know, I know--they're supposedly more experienced drivers (yuh, right...), but we're told these behaviors are "dangerous," & that's why it's illegal. Yeah? So making a U-ee in traffic isn't dangerous when cops make one, but we civilians will most assuredly crash? Speeding for cops doesn't end in crashes? I've personally seen a major cop car chase end in a violent crash! So why do they get a pass, & we get a ticket?!? "Things that make you go, 'Hmmm....'" Maggiepie “The penalty good men pay for not being interested in politics, is to be governed by men worse than themselves.” ~ Plato, 350 B.C.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
"More experienced drivers"? I've never heard that one. I can understand in an emergency, but in general, they ought to be setting an example. What a concept!!!
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
14 Feb 11
I would imagine there would be a lot of rules that even the most experienced drivers would not be aware of! I try really hard to do all the right things while driving because 1) I don’t want to be hurt or worse die 2) I don’t want to hurt or kill another person and 3) I don’t want to be cited because it is expensive! I do avoid certain right turns if they can be dangerous and I detest people who honk if you don’t move quickly enough for them…What is their problem anyway?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
They left the house 5 minutes too late, and it's your fault! :D
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
12 Feb 11
Kind of leaves things up in the air doean't it? There are so many variations of different traffic laws in different states that it would do one well to study a bit before travelling. I know that here if someone is rear-ended..no matter what..it is automatically the one in the backs fault. I have seen times when it really wasn't though.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
It isn't necessarily that way here. Depends on the circumstances.
• United States
10 Feb 11
Well i did not know about the red light and how you dont have to turn if the light is red. Well i would be the impatient person behind the person not turning and probably honking my horn because he isnt turning when there is no traffic coming. I think that law is kinda ridiculous because i didnt know there are so many laws just for one traffic law. Well i guess its life and we must know these things when we are out driving. Now i did know about the blinker because when i was in highschool i got a ticket for no blinker when changing lanes. I thought it was ridiculous because there are so many others out there not being cites for this and most of the people i see not doing this is the law enforcement cops themselves. Well its life and i guess we deal with it and brush it off later.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Feb 11
The law is that you can make a right turn on a red if it's safe. And in California you have to be stopped for at least 3 seconds first. Far as I know, you aren't obligated to do it. But I can see not doing it at a really dangerous blind intersection, though I would hope there would be "no right turn on red" signs if that were the case.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
lol I don't know if they would have gotten the humor...
• United States
11 Feb 11
I got honked at continuously once because I was in the right-hand lane and wanted to turn right into the first driveway after the intersection. There was no way to get to that driveway from another lane, and had the light not been red there would not have been any problem. I almost got out of my car to get them to roll down the window so I could ask, "I'm sorry, were you trying to attract my attention?"
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
13 Feb 11
I will right turn on red if I know that I can make it safely. However, there are other times that I won't take the right turn on red. I've never been the impatient person that honks at another driver, but I've been the driver that has been honked at before. I think that it is very important to use the turn signals and I always do this. However, I have been caught before with one of my signals going out.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Feb 11
some people are so doggone impatient, but it would kill them to just leave 5 minutes earlier...
• United States
10 Feb 11
Cops here for some odd reason can break the laws simply because they do not want to wait for the light. Yes I am one who signals usually with plenty of forewarning. I do not honk at the person in front, I just mumble @%& Ugh.. .while impatiently waiting in my set. Turn signals are important as most times as the driver in front turns there can be pedestrians and they will slow down so it will forewarn all behind that yielding may be necessary.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Feb 11
I get impatient too, but the only time I honk is on a green if it looks as if the driver didn't see it change.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Feb 11
Or if somebody's about to clobber me....
@GardenGerty (160665)
• United States
11 Feb 11
I like to turn right on red, but I never honk at those who do not. I did not know that the honking, impatient person can be cited. I go crazy because hubby does not signal, and there are a few other laws he ignores as well. I signal all the time, failed a driving test once for not signaling in a parking lot.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Mine will turn on a red light late at night if there's nobody around....
@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
11 Feb 11
I didn't think police cars HAD turn signals (just joking really) Right after the right turn on red became legal in Texas, my parents were involved in an accident because the stupid Bi... woman didn't realize that you had to YIELD to oncoming traffic... and to let you know how they were involved, they were stopped in the left turn lane!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
You can't legislate common sense....
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@derek_a (10874)
11 Feb 11
It is interesting to learn of your traffic laws and I think we could do with some laws like that in the UK. I am often seeing cars weaving from lane to lane as they speed down our motorways often way above the speed limits. It is illegal, to "under-take" but people still do it and often cars and truck just signal and pull straight out. I've had to brake heavilly many times because of this practice. _Derek
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
We have idiots who do that here too.
@Lore2009 (7378)
• United States
10 Feb 11
Interesting stuff! But seems only common sense really. When I drove, I always signaled, I hated it when people didn't signal. And I honked once in a while when after a given time, some people would just stay their in the middle of the road, then I'd honk.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Feb 11
I want to honk sometimes, but I usually don't!
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
11 Feb 11
I didn't realize that you didn't have to turn on red if you don't want to. I kind of prefer the lights that you can't turn on. I always use my turn signals. Even if there is no one else on the road, it's just habit. I sometimes turn them on very early. I try and wait so the people behind me don't think I'm turning before I am. What irritates me is a lot of people don't use them at all. How are the other drivers supposed to know their intentions?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
Obviously they're supposed to be telepathic!
@Lhenni (1242)
• Philippines
11 Feb 11
My husband drives in a very over vigilant patient manner (*lol) He's doing all that stuff of warning and signals... And he's not into turning if it's a bad corner. He takes his time when driving. He had so many patience for traffics. He don't even say any bad words to those jerks he came across. He don't horns a lot, sometimes he horns if a green light started and it seems that someone infront of him got to sleep *lol... and of course he horns if someone might hit us. That's logical anyway. Reckless drivers are scattered anywhere in our area, so better be more cautious that sorry he said. But driving at night in ours is more frightening because of the trucks. They are allowed to be in the highway starting late at night. and most truck drivers are known to be not following the safety road precautions. They are the killer king of the road at night. Maybe they are not cautious because they think that there's no traffic police officer to be in the road by that time, a very selfish thinking. Feeling untouchables for beig big. They are always in the news for being involved in an accident and not just an accident... but a fatal one. I don't know where my husband is getting his patience. I'm not like him, If someone jerked him, want to be on top of him though it may bumped us nearly, he's always forgiving and patience. I'm the one who's saying bad words and get angry, he'll just say, don't let them ruin your day. Very cool man. Even when I'm angry with him in somepoint, he don't lose his calm. Many traffic light intersections here in our country need to be refurbished. The visibility is really bad. Many times it caused an accident... along with the drivers that's not really trained to be a real defensive driver... they just bribe someone to get a license. No seminar at all. That's why I don't want to drive. I just let my husband to do the driving. Yea, I'm missing something, but i'm so scared to drive in this environment. The government is doing something for these improvement now. Thanks!...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Feb 11
I'm usually pretty patient too. If I have something nasty to say to another driver, I say it, but not so they can hear it. Just to myself... Truck drivers here are professionals, and the majority of them are pretty safe drivers. Of course, every profession has a few bad ones...