Should he go for the second child …….?

@dpk262006 (58678)
Delhi, India
February 11, 2011 9:26am CST
Hi friends! One of my friends who would be around 34 years has landed in a problem. He has a son of eight years and is studying. He is working at a good post and earns handsomely. His wife is also working albeit on a lower post than he. She is 31 years old. Earlier he and his wife decided that they will not go for the second child. However, for the past few months, his wife is pressing hard to go for the second child. My friend is dead against it and is not mentally prepared to bring up the second child due financial and family problems. He lives with old aged parents, who will not be able to help much to bring up the second child. He is unable to make his wife understand. His wife threatens to commit suicide despite his counseling. She has stopped talking to her and does not want to listen to him and presses her to succumb to her demand. My question is can such a major be taken by wife alone, when the husband is not willing in favour of the second child. What are the options available for my friend? What do you? Your advice will be invaluable.
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• India
14 Feb 11
I really don’t understand Deepak that why she wants to rattle a settled boat? Her life seems to be perfect vis a vis the scenario in India all around us... both partners working, earning good, one child who’s not a baby anymore... having another baby at this juncture will surely spell a lot of trouble for everybody around. I think you too will understand what the problems could be, so no need of my elaborating on them. Only advise I have for her is the same I have for myself... being a working mom, I know only too well the hassles of bringing up a baby AND maintaining the job too, and I value my job more (practically speaking) than adding to the family without increasing income. Your friend too should ask the same of his wife AND if the wife still insists on having another baby, she can quit her job..... no other solution.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
Sudipta! I am glad to hear you views and I almost hold the same views and this is what I exactly I told my friend. I suggested him to talk to her patiently and calmly and all the facts be put forth. I also feel that financial and other aspects are needed to be taken care of, before going for the second child. Based on suggestions of all friends who participated in this discussion, I have advised my friend and he informs me that he was more or less able to convince his wife. Many thanks for dropping in.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
11 Feb 11
This is a difficult situation where there is a demand and the demand not met. The wife is right in wanting a spare for their only child. It is always good to have at least two kids as anything can happen to the only child. She is willing to sacrifice nine months of pregnancy and the pain of childbirth. She is pestering her husband probably because her biological clock is ticking away fast and hoping to have a girl to make a pair. Every child is a gift from God and even before a child is born to this world, God has already prepared the child's 'rice bowl' in this world. At least that is what the elderly people told me before. No matter how difficult the situation of the parents is, the presence of a new member in the family would not create heavy burden. Financial and family problems should be a secondary matter as every child should not be considered a curse but a blessing to the family.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
12 Feb 11
Hi Zandi! I agree with you that it is always safe to have second child as anything could happen to the first one. However, anything can happen to both of them, then what ......the third child? Every child is a gift of God, it is true but if the parents are not in a position to bring up the child (as both are working and there would not no one to look after the second one) then they should not go for the second one. Cost of living is getting higher day by day and every parent wants that they should give best education and facilities etc. to their child and if the number of children is more, the facilities among them get divided. Many thanks for your thoughts.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
12 Feb 11
Having a child is a personal choice and has to be done by the two people involved....after looking at all aspects. You say your friend is earning handsomely...then where does the financial constraint come in? Some people (maybe like your friend's wife) believes that every child needs a sibling....I've seen many people like that. Age is not a problem....most people nowadays have their second child in their 30s (we did too). The age gap also is a normal one nowadays. We had a family friend in Kuwait where the gap between both the kids is 12 years!! And this was at a time when the average gap was 2-3 years! I remember that my father didn't want a second child and my mother did.It took her a couple of years to convince him to have another one....but convince she did. In your friend's case....it is for them to decide...and there is no right or wrong either way.
@SViswan (12051)
• India
13 Feb 11
I mentioned sibling because that is the Indian mentality. I do not say it is totally right. As you said, all points need to be looked at and the husband has to convince his wife of the financial liabilities of having a child....and also the fact that she will not get help from home and might need to hire outside help to raise the child. Accepting the woman's need for a child, the husband needs to put all these points in front of her and ask her if she has answers or solutions for these. He can tell her that it's not like he doesn't want a child but looking at all these factors, it will take a toll on them, their relationship, their older child and their financial limit will be pushed. Ask her to think about it and then they can discuss.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
This is exaxctly I suggested to my friend and when he presented all the facts to his wife, she did not have convincing and definite answers. (My friends tell me that after telling her all the pros and cons, things are moving in right direction and he would able to convince her). And above all views and invaluable suggestions of all of you, who wrote in my discussion, have helped me convey the position to my friend and it has proved fruitful so far.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
12 Feb 11
Hi SV! My friend's earnings are handsome then so are his spendings. Maintaining a Car, sending his son to a reputed school (Fee @Rs. 6000/- p.m.) and paying EMI of housing loan makes him spend all the earnings. His wife is in private sector, where she has to work more and is paid less. Sibling point is OK, but a couple needs to look at all the aspects before arriving at a crucial decision. Many thanks for sharing your views.
@akangirl (2436)
• India
11 Feb 11
I would suggest that he should go for second child as he is already 34 now and if he will do any late then there would be big age gap between siblings which is not good.Financial problem will always remain or he could do one thing try to talk to his wife about first improving financial problems together or saving some money for another child then go for another child.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
11 Feb 11
Hi! My friend does not want a second child. He is happy with their only son (child). He has already talked to her, however, she is not relenting and is adamant. My friend is under great stress. Thanks for your valuable advice.
• Pamplona, Spain
11 Feb 11
Hiya dpk, That is a predicament indeed. She is still very young and can still have Children a bit later on. Seeing as his Parents can´t help as you say maybe she should wait a couple of years more. But seeing as she is also reacting that way in the sense that she wants to kill herself I don´t know could it be that she needs to see a Doctor to find out what makes her say that is because of something else? (Pregnancy?) It might be although I cannot know that myself. If a Child appears on the scene there will not be much they can do about it. But if not I would wait if it were myself. Sometimes when we are actually pregnant we can become overly sensitive to all around us and feel very tired at the start and say things we don´t really mean to.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
12 Feb 11
Hiya Lovin! She is not pregnant as yet. However, threatening her husband like it is not fair on her part. It is a mutual decision and should be taken with the consent of both the partners. Many thanks for your advice and views.
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• Pamplona, Spain
12 Feb 11
Hiya dpk, I suppose that she must feel in the right. But threatening to kill herself is a big thing and a silly thing to do. I was just wondering you see because our Hormones can make us really ratty and irritable still think she should have good check up and see why she feels like that. It is a mutual decision of course it is. I only hope that they can sort it out with love and understanding from both sides both him and her. That´s what it takes to come to an agreement. Best of luck to them both anyway. You know when you don´t want to have a Child is usually when it appears on the scene (grin). Just another thought because it happened to me too and a few other Friends.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
Hi Lovin! You are right, threatening her husband is not less than a silly step. It is understable that hormones imbalance could cause trouble but it does not mean that you will not listen to your partner or will accept his point of views (which initially, she was not willing to listen). I have also suggested my friend to solve it amicable with the help of his parents and parents-in-law. Had she been pregnant say by default, then the scenario would have changed. Thanks for your views. Deepak
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@allknowing (138327)
• India
12 Feb 11
Surely his wife must have told him how she would cope with the situation. She is as much aware of the predicament as he is. It would be interesting to know what the wife has to say about coping with the situation and may be then I could say a thing or two. So dpk please find out from your friend about this.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
The wife could not give convincing answers on the issue of bringing up the second child. She said the child could be sent to crèche and she will cut down her expenses.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
You may say it as 'not despearate', however, keeping in view all other aspects, it is not practical either.
@allknowing (138327)
• India
14 Feb 11
And with some help coming from the husband - hopefully he will pitch in too - the wife's decision to have the second child does not seem so desperate after all.
@youless (112621)
• Guangzhou, China
12 Feb 11
This is a difficult issue. In my opinion, I think two children are perfect for a family. If your friend will have a second child, it seems that his wife has to do some sacrifice. Such as she has to quit the job and then take care of the new born baby because the grandparents are too old to help. And it will create some problems, especially the financial issues. Today bringing up a child really costs a lot of money. But your friend's wife's attitude seems to be so serious and it is so harmful for your friend's relationship with her. I think they shall have a talk in peace to solve this problem. If one disagrees to have one more child, nobody can make a force to it. I love China
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
I agree two children make a perfect family but for the sake of perfection, you cannot ignore other aspect. All aspects needed to be taken into account before arriving at such an important decision.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Feb 11
hi dpk I tellyouo if she waits longer than she is already 31 they will both regret it as once you are 30 the risk of birth defects is huge so no do not wait now is the time or forget it.I am wondering when you say he and she decided that they will not go for a second child if really this was the male talking and not her agreement at all.If they are to have another healthy child its now or forget it. I had one healthy child at 31 and a birth defective child at 32. the risk is really there so I would prod hubby to think about thie as she is almost too old now too be sue she can bear a healthy child.Your friend needs to guit the damned macho attitude and listen to h is wife.he comes off mocking his wife and being all arrogant and puffed up he big man she little stupid woman. I feel for her. she probably knows the longer they wait the more the risk of a child with birth defects.Perhaps and did you think of this maybe sheis already pregant and thats why she is pushinsg,it sounds like tow people who are not happy in their marriage in the first place.What is she suppoosed to do if she is accidentally pregnant and hes coming all over the macho male? have an abortion/
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
12 Feb 11
Hi Hat! Your views are invaluable and I agree with you that if they both are willing, then it is high time to go for a second child. However, the husband does not favour the second child in this case. Husband is the main bread earner, therefore, he has to look all the aspects regarding bringing up the second child. She is not pregnant as of now. They were just discussing the issue at a preliminary stage.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
15 Feb 11
It is a huge predicament, that’s for sure and I can appreciate both sides to this situation. He does not want another child and he is very entitled to feel this way but on the other hand I have a lot of empathy for a woman who desperately yearns for a child because I have been there myself. It is a tough one to compromise on because when it comes to children there is no compromising! The fact that one partner says no would not make bringing a baby into the mix a good idea. I’m afraid she will have to talk to him and make a decision if she can truly give up the idea of another pregnancy or re-think the relationship. I don’t see an easy answer to this one, I’m afraid...
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
16 Feb 11
I can understand your predicament paula as you are trying to view the situation from each angle. My friend was able to convince his wife not to for the second one after detailed discussion and weighing all pros and cons.
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@JohnMach (550)
• Philippines
11 Feb 11
I think all they need is family planning. I know how hard it is to have a child. Having one seems enough for me but my wife wants 5. When we attended that family planning seminar last year, I was relieved to know that it only takes a few planning to bring up a whole family. Of course we need a lot of work.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
12 Feb 11
You have given a very good suggestion, which I will pass on my friend.
• India
12 Feb 11
If she is independent and earning well to taking care n taking all liabilities of the second child, then i think she should go for second child. Financial and family problems everywhere in every family, wise man fight against it in all circumstances understand the situation and manage everything. My respond is yes cause both are earning and able to second one.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
14 Feb 11
She is not fully independent and though earning, she is not earning much. The problem is who will look after the child, once she rejoins her job?