Can you help me decide if this budget's reasonable?
@Masihi (4413)
Canada
February 13, 2011 4:58pm CST
As many of you guys know, I've gotten out of a pyramid scheme (Monavie/TEAM) about oone year ago this month. I think it was this past February that I canceled my memberships to the Monavie website and the TEAM Leadership website. I worked really hard at re-arranging my budget, and I've been paying down the principle of my debt since this past May. So, as of this month, I will have about $2000 paid off of my principle alone, which is a really good accomplishment for my income. Here's what I decided to totally abstain from until my debt is paid off in about 6-7 years:
~Alcoholic beverages
~Meeting for coffee at a coffeeshop
~Long drives (Hubby likes the countryside)
~Trips (Hubby's family was buried about 4 hours' drive from here & we go camping on the beach down there each year)
~Candy/pop/chips/treats
~Brand-new clothing
~Gadgets (I'm a technology freak)
~Electronics
~Eating out in resturaunts
~Buying books
~Shopping at Ebay or Amazon
~Christmas gifts (between Hubby & I)
~Birthday gifts (except for our 2 kids)
~Store-bought baked goods (make my own breads/cakes/cookies/etc)
Here's the question: Am I being too unreasonable? I'm making it okay with the budget I'm currently on and I'm on welfare, and I want to slide into this new budget to see if I can pay off my debt in five years. I'm used to living with nothing, while Hubby doesn't like this budget at all, he thinks I'm too strict. What's your opinions?
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
14 Feb 11
All of that sounds pretty sound to me if you want to get out of debt, but you have to make sure that you also live life. If you cut too many joyous habits out of your life, then depression can easily set in. For me, long drives through the countryside exploring new places is something that I would never give up no matter how tough things were financially. It does not cost too much to go for a nice family drive in the country, just a little fuel.
@GardenGerty (160615)
• United States
14 Feb 11
That actually sounds like healthy family fun, if you do not do it too often. I would say do it once a month in the summer, because it is an inexpensive way to have family fun. Pack a picnic on that wonderful homemade bread.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
14 Feb 11
@ Masihi. Your husband sounds just like me I think.
@GardenGerty. We usually get out at least a couple of times a month as a family for something nature based, more so at this time of year being summer as we are always going to the beach as well. (another great free activity)
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@GardenGerty (160615)
• United States
14 Feb 11
I think you need to learn how to build some pleasure into this budget. It sounds a bit as if you are in jail here. I know it all depends on your "currency", what makes you feel good. I know that paying down your debt makes you feel good, but there are two people in your marriage, as well as two kids. In five or six years they will be pretty grown up, and you will have missed the chance to do things with them at this age. The camping trips somewhere are really good for them. I do applaud the fact that you are trying to get on top of things. I am interested in seeing what others say. Also, sometimes, if you can get a good chunk of change together, creditors will negotiate with you about amount you have to pay off.
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@GardenGerty (160615)
• United States
14 Feb 11
No, negotiations should not affect your credit rating negatively. It would show that you were in good standing with the credit holder and that you met whatever obligation that they set for you. I could see you working really hard at some of the paid programs and dedicating that money to debt elimination, or, for instance, I have a program that I get Amazon cards with, and I use that to buy gifts or books and music. None of that comes out of my budget, and you can get lots of things on Amazon. It does not take money to enrich your kids' lives, just attitude. I felt that we were very poor when my kids were growing up, but my kids tell me that they did not feel that way at all. Part of that is that instead of saying "we cannot afford to do this or that" I told them that we were not doing such and such because we choose to pay this or that first. They understand that it is a choice.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
14 Feb 11
Actally, that is an excellent point about the fact my kids aren't going to be just kids for five years. My son turned 9 on the 11th, so even so, he'd be 14 by the time I get my debt paid off (if I were to do this boot camp budget I was trying to impose). My daughter will be 8 in July.
About the negotiations, wouldn't that prevent me from getting back a good credit rating?
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
14 Feb 11
Can you send me the program website in a private message, please? I'm always open to new ideas, but not always can I join, it wouldn't hurt anyway :-)
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
13 Feb 11
I agree that your budget is much too strict. If you do not allow yourself some money every month to go out or spend on a vacation, you will end up breaking your budget very quickly. I agree with what you are doing, but attack 1 bill aggressively first then when that is paid off roll all of that money + the current amount paid on the next bill into that bill.
You need to find something that both yourself and your husband agree on. That in and of itself will cause your budget to fail.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
13 Feb 11
Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing, I'm paying over the minimum amount on both of my credit cards so that I can improve my credit rating, but am working had on my Visa than my Mastercard. I'll then tackle my Mastercard agressively within 2 years, then be able to tackle my Line of Credit with no difficulty after that.
I know how to stick to budget. In fact, I'm very good at it. I know how to deny myself and use willpower because there was one time that I *HAD* to do that. I know that if I were by myself I can definitely do that no problem, but you did bring up a valid point, the budget does need to be in agreement with Hubby's wishes, but the only problem is, he never did have to go without, his family spoiled him growing up, especially his grandmother. She's passed away now, and he's getting better at budgeting but can't go to the "extremes" that I'm used to and have no problem with.
*sigh*
decisions, decisions......
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
14 Feb 11
Sometimes its not just about will power but giving your self the ability to do something other than siting the house and pull your hair out lol Have you ever read the book "America's Cheapest Family"? If not, you should. They have the best budgeting ideas I have seen (even better than Suze Orman IMO) and they talk about balance and how to cut back on other areas - like groceries.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
10 Mar 11
Yes, that's basically how it goes. Where there's a will there's a way.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
24 Feb 11
I don't think you are being too strict. Those things you mentioned are not at all necessary and they are quite expensive. I find anything to do with eating out or dining out is way expensive. Those things you mentioned for the most part I would not expect to find in someone's budget who is carrying heavy debts. I think your camping trip should stay in place because you can put away a little each week to cover that.
I'm confident you are thoughtful and clever enough to do well. Best wishes.
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
10 Mar 11
Thanks for your cncouraging words. I myself Wanted to go on this budget but Hubby told me that it's too strict & that we need to live. I admit that we are making headway into our debt, but I suppose I was aiming to have it paid off in five years instead of seven years.
@maezee (41988)
• United States
26 Feb 11
6-7 years is a VERY long time to give up these kinds of things... i think everything is good in moderation. Obviously you don't want to be hitting the bottle and doing other things yo ucan't afford, but it seems like life wouldn't be fun without some of those things on your list.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
10 Mar 11
It is a very long time, I agree, & my husband would agree with you there. I feel so much guilt of what I put my family through, +hat I feel that I *HAVE* to pay it off, especiallly by the time my kids reach their teenage years. After many discussions with my husband, we've worked something out.
@NoWayRo (1061)
• Romania
14 Feb 11
Maybe you are just a bit too strict - of course, I don't know your financial situation, but, since you asked for opinions here...
I'm going through more or less the same situation with my father these days; he's not used to living on a budget, even if he hasn't made any income in 15 years, but my mother made quite enough for both of them. When I moved in with him, he used to spend 5 times what I earn each month.
I set a monthly budget. If we manage to do with less, than my father gets the remaining money and he can spend it on whatever he wants. It's not nearly enough for him, and he still spends more than we have each month, but the situation improved considerably, and I still have hope that I'll teach him to live within our means before he eats up all my savings.
As for books, gadgets and presents, I do a bit of work on MTurk, and use my earnings there to buy all these things from Amazon. It's not a good deal - the shipping fees are huge, sometimes the value of a product doubles... but I don't spend money from my budget this way, I don't have to live without these products completely.
When I cut the expenses for going out for a coffee, I was surprised how many of my friends understood my situation, and tried to help me. These days, almost everybody calls to invite me out for an occasion (real or made up), which is really sweet of them. It only drives me to work more on MTurk, so I can at least make up with more presents for them.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
14 Feb 11
I'm saving up summer fun money from Sidetick, fifteen dollars a month, not bad, actually.
I really do hope your father can change his thinking about his spending habits. You have a right to keep your savings account. It's not easy to change long, old habits, for sure.
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