Don't start a discussion here..... please.
By shibham
@shibham (16977)
India
February 15, 2011 9:40am CST
Hi too all those mylotters who are already on my notice. Please don't start a discussion if you are not able to comment back to those who responded on your latest discussion. You know when we write on your topic, then we have to think a lot about how to write and what to write... we exhaust all our efforts to be a good respondent.... our time has some values and please don't neglect our valuable time... if you are not able to comment back to our responses or wish to skip then please inform us... we are not to sacrifice all these...
Who are you here to measure our patience. i am not to respond to you on your second discussion if you don't comment back to my last response.
Mylotters, am i right? I am requesting them not to start a discussion if he/she does not feel his/her liability about what a response means?
Request again. this is not a field to choice your favorite one... someone may put according to his/her wish that oppose you... at least say thanks without skipping.
Why some mylotters are living here with this attitude?
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28 responses
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
15 Feb 11
Hi Shibham.
I had posted almost similar discussion some time back here. The first thing is it is my prerogative if or not I comment back your response and you can not stop me from posting as many discussion as I can.
Now in such situation where would you be standing? And if you remind me that I wont get money for not commenting I would say I am not bothered about money.
This would be the face to face talk if we take up your post.
People forget that those here are not for a good and easy money nor they realize that unless they put their comment it would lose its label of being a discussion topic. I wonder sometime that we are not here for discussion.
If anything can be done on this issue only the admin can do, not we.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
15 Feb 11
Hi boss...
I have not seen that discussion. IF you were there than i am not to start a discussion similar to you.
I am not conscious about what i have earned rather i am here to enjoy my leisure time with my friends from india and abroad.
I think there should be added a rule as if a mylotter dose not comment back to each responses then he/she can't start a discussion. At least our efforts will brimg color then.
have a great day.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
15 Feb 11
You are right, it is irritating to give our time and thoughts and get no interaction in return. I'm often disappointed when joining a discussion about a different religion or culture and I try hard to bring up some questions and points in a way that does not offend but invites a reply, only to have it ignored. I learn nothing that way. I need to stop patronizing this kind of myLotter.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
15 Feb 11
Hi pose,
I have observed it since a long time. The effort and research you do to respond a discussion goes in vain when there is no reply, forget about discussion.
Now I have adopted one policy. If one does not respond to my discussion for more than three occasion I would not visit his/her either.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
15 Feb 11
Hi dragon... within last three days i responded to discussions as much as i can and the ratio of comments that i have received like... 10( responded): 3 ( not commented)..... is not irritating?.. i have promised that i am not to respond to their discussion who don't know their minimum decency here in mylot.
@ rajiv... i am about to follow your motto.
Have a nice day.
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@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
15 Feb 11
Hi Shibham
Hmmm so this is what is bothering my dear brother... ok, do one thing respond to good people only - I mean those who respond and comment on their discussions... and occasionally when you think you can spare some time to those who will not respond, do them the favor too... Problem Solved...
But yes, I see the other side too... where I take this as an advice and somewhere I too fall in this category of lotters who dont respond to all those who comment on all their responders... But I try my best to interact with all of them... Because I love to interact with people and feel happy when I have company
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi sids... But the most irritated issue is here that if someone skips on responses. They just comment to them with whom can unit their lips. You may right a huge volume but they ignore it and never say a thanks. can i call them groupist?
If someone cant bother our response then he/she can tell us DND as you have mentioned here.
So suny and visavis.... i think some mylotters like us should continue...
@CTHanum (8234)
• Malaysia
16 Feb 11
Hi Shibham!
I always assumed that they are tired answering all the comments till they can't reply back ours.Sometimes I wonder why they create one if they are not intend to reply back.I would be happy if I got many responses from others.If I can't reply it in one short I will make sure to come back and response till finish.We are not here just for the money.What is the point on creating discussion if they are not going to reply it back?
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi hanum...
They may be tired but they may come after days. Yes, i also get surprise why they start if they have no intention to reply back. Definitely we are not here only for money.. apart from money we gain knowledge and good friends through mylotting. How can someone ignore it? take care.
@stevieboi19 (1419)
•
15 Feb 11
I see your point it is slightly annoying if someone starts a discussion and then never gets back to you, what's worse though is someone who picks and chooses who to respond to. If we've taken the time to comment on a discussion the least people could do is comment on our opinions. Here's hoping you respond to me lol.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Yes friend and thats why i raised this issue here.
And it enhances the knowledge of us equally the strength of mylot.
Be sure, i never left any response uncommented. May be i am late as today but always i am to comment. Hope you have found it. Have a nice day.
@eshaan (6188)
• India
15 Feb 11
hi shibham ...i am also of the same opinion...but sometimes it happens that u start a discussion and then you get busy in something...like recently i started a discussion and got busy with kids studies and also with the eye sight problem of my girl....but still i try my best to add comments to all the responses i get..though i may be late...happy mylotting !
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@mermaidivy (15394)
• United States
15 Feb 11
I do reply to my responders after posting my discussions because I want to discuss the topic. Not like I just want to post something. Sometimes I respond to other's discussions, I would check the resonded tab afterwards because I want to see if the creater has said something or not, I would get disappointed if he didn't reply back...
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi mermaidivy... thats why i started this discussion. I think it is most unwanted situation that your response is not valued. Its depressing also and every mylotter should be concern towards it. Although we have not too many interaction but i do believe that you know how to maintain a good relationship. take care.
@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
15 Feb 11
When I have the time I will respond back to people who have responded to my discussions! Sometimes I just don't feel like doing it on certain days! Not everyone is on Mylot everyday! Not everyone has time! So get off our backs! I hate people who act perfect and you sure are acting like that!
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
No body is perfect in this world and you have wrong thought here. I am trying to be a good mylotter.... and you can't judge a person with their words.
I dont say that you are obliged to put your views promptly but you should whenever you wish. May be years after. Your hate will works fine with me. Take care.
@eurekafemme (5876)
• Philippines
15 Feb 11
Hello, dear.
Did I miss something here. Have I forgotten to comment to your response to one of my discussions? If so, then I am guilty of this post.
As much as possible, I am trying to comment to all the responses I get. But there are times that I feel so lazy and saying thank you also is not allowed here. Plus, I do not think that saying 'thank you for your response and I'll get back to you later" is a sensible thing to write, dear. I'd rather leave it blank for a moment then type a line or two whenever I truly have the time to do so.
I couldn't help admitting that I have responses left un -commented until this very minute. It is not because I am completely ignoring them. i am just taking a break. As you may have noticed that most of my topics are emotionally stressful, I needed a break form the thought and would rather respond to other topics or start a new one again.But, it is my responsibility, to get back to my respondents. That is very clear to me, that's why even if I go to a turtle pace, I am getting back at those back logs I have.
Oh, dear. I hope you wouldn't take this against me....
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi eureka.... no, you are not among them. You know your responsibility and better know what friendship means indeed? I am very proud for being your friend.
"Thank you" is not the only sentence that i put here although i am lazy. Rather i like to leave commenting and try to respond to some good discussions. lol. but anyway its better to say thanks than nothing. And as you its also a good process and i believe and try to maintain.
Yes, i have seen your discussions and found you stressful sometimes. Be with us and your stress will be no where. Just believe and no... you are a good friend. I have already said.
take care/
@megamatt (14291)
• United States
15 Feb 11
I really agree with you one hundred percent. It just makes me shake my head sadly when people start about a dozen or so topics in a row. Therefore, they are not going to be able to keep track of all of those topics on the best of times. Most certainly not enough to really keep track of all of the topics that they post. Really if you can't respond, then don't post a topic.
There are a lot of times where I might miss a couple of responses here and there. However, I really try and get most of the responses. If nothing else, there are times where I set aside a day just to take care of responses that might be left over throughout the week. Still it does make the person feel valuable and that their opinion is valued. Therefore those people could return if they felt valued.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Yes. this is my motto.... dont play with us with our words and labor. get lost and search some where.... i just wish to say this to them who does not know what mylot is and what a discussion mean?
I never say that you need to post a prompt reply. you may take time and think for comments but please dont avoid it as it hurts too many mylotters like me. Our responses should be valued.
Thanks and have a nice day.
@thanks1961 (7035)
• India
15 Feb 11
Hi dear,
I just closed my topic about 15 days back with a similar pain. One of our friend who started nearly 40 discussions in a day and I responded 8 of which and not even for a single response she commented. How she will do it and I don't even think whether she is viewing all responses also. She was in such a hurry to come up with so many discussions one after another. It is my look that we are trying a lot to give our maximum effort to come back with a nice response for their topics. But, simply ignoring and abandoning our discussions are really a kind of ignorance and this was my theme also.
Many people commented nicely for it and I think those who commented back on my discussion have seen your topic also and must be evaluating. Here in myLot, the circle of morality completes only when the discussion ends up with the first level of discussion and response and its comments. I always take care of this thing and I think this is the back bone as well as the corner stone of myLots's existence. People should realise the fact and identify where to concentrate and how to go ahed with the vigor and energized.
Now my only issue is that I registered myLot with my office id and now myLot is officially blocked from my office and whatever responses come to my id from myLot cannot be answered. If I start on comment column, the sites goes off and I am getting a message saying that 'you are trying to access a site which is blocked' and hence, I cannot respond to my fellow people's comments and I got disappointed. However, for some of the friends I have already informed the fact and I will do some alternative adjustments to respond to my interactions live.
What you mentioned is really a serious issue and we really feel bad, if they do not revert to us. The intensity exactly shows when we think about the fact that so much effort we have put to give them a fair response. Only my prayer is that people here should think little open and understand the facts, because we all are the members of the family and having a mutual understanding abut the things would make matter so easy and understandable.
Thank-s
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi friend...
She is not a mylotter... she is a runner. Don't waste your time being with her. I think i missed your topic.
yes, you are right. For the existence of mylot we should indulge here as our level best. They, who dont comments to their responses are not a good survivor and not to stay here for a long time. My two years experience has taught me this lesson and i am sure they are only for time pass and give a look on other's opinion and subject. They never wish to learn anything from a good interaction.
Sorry to hear your problem and cant help as i am not so familiar to cyber world and it's problem.
Anyway problem will be solved if we unite us and promise not to response them.
Have a nice day.
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
15 Feb 11
Oh my quite difficult indeed. It happens more times then many care for, but I suppose they are misinformed about how myLot works. I am one who only starts discussions that interests me so that I have plenty of room to comment back to each and every member. I do my hardest...
I suppose the best thing to do is ignore and not respond if there are too many like that. I will sometimes if I can contribute go ahead and respond but then if I notice it is someone who is in this type of habit, I will include a line to let them know they are not earning.
Now if they do not participate, it truly is their loss as they are not participating.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi friend... but i do care. Oh... its great that you think about the comments before posting and be ready to encounter all positive and negative replies. I am not that same and start a discussion all in sudden and have to fight a lot while commenting.
You know as i am not a native english speaker and very weak in english hence i have to take the help of dictionary often. if i write a very long response this way and become ignored then it really hurts me.
Have a nice day.
@serubhai1 (203)
• India
15 Feb 11
Hi Shibham,
A very interesting opinion my friend-but maybe you should give the benefit of doubt vis-a-vis the discussion type.I see that discussions are of mainly two different types-like' I want to read this book/see this movie. How's it for those who already have done the same'. This is a very trivial discussion and maybe you are right in expecting responses and peeved when you get none/or only a few.
Again, the other type of discussions are those which arouses the interest of the reader and is provocated to think.Here, the response is not very important but the subject matter is. As more and more people try to expand on the original thought, the initial thought gets developed into different ways-which benefits all- the discussion starter as well as the other people who expand on the original thought. Under these circumstances, I feel that if you do not get responses (directly) but if your idea is being scrutinized and shaped into many forms -some of which were invisible to you-then the satisfaction is the same.
However, this is my opinion only as the one & only CLINT EASTWOOD says in one of his movies(Dirty-Harry series?) that opinions are like a**h***s-every idiot has one!
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi serubhai...
I think you are saying about those query type discussions for the first one.
And sure we apply our all efforts on thinking and posting and here is the reason raised. We should be evaluated for our tasks here. I really appreciate your idea of thinking which did not come to my mind earlier. Thanks for this nice view. Have a nice day.
@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
16 Feb 11
I understand the point you are making but I'm sorry I disagree. I would never tell any other myLot member not to start a discussion or only to participate if they can do so under specific conditions. Not everyone can devote as much time to myLot as they would like. Much of the time, offline life must take precedence. That doesn't mean that a member isn't welcome here or shouldn't come back. You can comment to other people in a discussion - you don't have to create a specific relationship or conversation only with the discussion starter. Other people can read what you type and THEY can respond to you too. There seems to be an over-riding sentiment among some people that someone completely OWNS a discussion that they start. That simply is NOT true. These are not "question and answer sessions." Any myLot member can participate anywhere they want, whenever they want. For example, someone could start a discussion and then, months or years later, they leave myLot. Their discussion stays. Anyone, at any time, can still participate in it... the original poster doesn't even need to be around for that discussion to continue. So, yes, it's appropriate, sensible and polite to be active in any discussion you start, I agree with you there... and I personally do try to comment back to every person who posts in a discussion I start, if I can post something of value in return... but it's very unfair to tell anyone NOT to participate. All are welcome here, for whatever time they can devote
P.S. It's not a good idea to encourage people to "at least say thanks" when just thanking someone as a response, without contributing anything else, is against myLot's discussion guidelines.
@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
19 Feb 11
I do agree, shibham... I think if people have limited time to spend, there will not be a great deal of personal satisfaction for them to come and start a large number of discussions to which they will never return ... but, still, other people can participate and extend those conversations without the discussion starter being around so all is not lost. I also completely agree with you that, by commenting, we prolong a discussion and keep the topic alive and also benefiting by fresh content. I absolutely took no hurt :) My only point is that I would not tell anyone how they should or shouldn't participate because the forum is open to all, however they may choose to contribute. Some of us will definitely enjoy it more than others. I'm very glad to discuss the points you raise -- that's why we're here :))
@shibham (16977)
• India
19 Feb 11
It's just my request not an order. I understand whatever you are saying but as i have mentioned on other responses that although we are not bound but a comment encourage the respondent to post more and write better.
I understand that this is not a question and answer session but through commenting we can prolongate a discussion and can learn more. You cant disagree here... point is valid. isn't it?
If you have hurt by my discussion and the perception of writings then i am sorry but still i say if you cant devote your time then what is the need to start discussion after discussion?
Have a great day always.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Feb 11
Exactly that i am saying here... if you have limited time then why you run to start plenty of discussions instead of commenting back on their previous discussions? This is my question to them who seek excuses for it.
So, sometimes i tend to put my comments to other's responses where the starter is absent. Anyway be responding and commenting here. Take care.
@shaggin (72412)
• United States
15 Feb 11
I'm sorry to say I dont agree with you. In the mylot guidelines it wants us to keep the discussion going but only with quality responses. They dont want us just writing a simple thanks. So therefore if I cant think of a response to what someone wrote on my discussion then I dont write anything at all. I try my best to comment on all of the responses I get but sometimes I just cant come up with anything. Also sometimes it takes me a few days to get back to all the responses sometimes I dont have enough time to sit and comment on every comment on get as it comes in.
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Feb 11
Hi shaggin...
may be you are not but my discussion is valid here and i am sure for it. Yoou may say that most respondents are agree with me. Do you think that just skipping a response here is a brilliant idea if you have nothing to add as comments? If so, then they are not sure that you have avoided them because you have nothing to say rather they may feel that you have ignored them intentionally. If you have not enough time to sit then how you can start discussions ignoring response? ( this question is not to you... to them who think this way) PLEASE DON'T MIND IF I HAVE HURT YOU BY ANY MEANS
@ sids... i am not sure.
have a nice day to both of you.
@Monkeyrose (2840)
• Canada
16 Feb 11
I rarely go back to a discussion I've already responded to. I used to but I don't think making responses to responses gets you any money on mylot. It doesn't count as a post.
So really I don't care so much. I try to respond to people, but sometimes I just have nothing to say to their responses.
Or sometimes life happens and I get busy.
I understand your frustration but i can't say it bothers me at all.
@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
16 Feb 11
Yes, it counts. You earn for whatever you type... and this is a discussion forum. Discussion means "back and forth" conversation. It's like having a "real life" conversation... you don't just give a friend one answer and walk away all the time, do you? You would more likely sit and have a chat, discussing something of interest to you both over a period of time... that applies here at myLot too
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@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
17 Feb 11
I completely agree with you on that, Monkeyrose. If someone posts responses that are just intended to flame a discussion or to irritate the original poster or those who are enjoying the topic, they aren't worth the effort. Sometimes, the opposite happens too -- a person gives such an amazing response or they say things so eloquently that I feel I can't possibly add anything of value. I don't answer those and don't try to diminish the impact of their statements by feeling "obligated" to comment back.
@Monkeyrose (2840)
• Canada
17 Feb 11
Well I do see your point. I'm just saying it doesn't bother me. If I find a good debate brewing or a good point I will respond. However the majority of responses are agreement statements. Or some don't warrant a response. I am wiccan so I post a lot about it. I had one friend on here who would just post magic is evil I don't do it. I'm not going to bother dignifying that with a response.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
14 Mar 11
Hiya Shibs,
Sometimes I do try to answer some ones that are difficult for me as I don´t live in those Countries so you really don´t know how to go around it. You want to say something but you are not sure how altogether as there are other responses that might put you off.
Still I get in there if I can and try and that is the most important thing if you mess it up you mess it all up but you learn from it.
However I won´t answer really hard ones where things can really flare up I stay away from those most of the time.
Hard to navigate on here sometimes and come to think of it anywhere else in this World.
We are all different I suppose that is the way they are and no one will change them. They have to change on their own.
Never mind Shibs you have all of us to respond to you and that´s quite a few don´t you think so?
@shibham (16977)
• India
14 Mar 11
Hi angel...
You have a few discussions that you have started, so you have no need to say anything here.
Yes, i have some really good friends including you... with whom the interactions run fruitfully and its enough here as we are from different countries having different cultures. Have a nice day.
@shibham (16977)
• India
24 May 11
Hi angel...
Hmmm... then someone already starts whatever you think. hahaha... anyway, think something unique and special that no one can think earlier than you and post here. It has been a long time from your last discussion.
I know your problem and i have too. I have my own laptop but less time to sit infront of it as i have to complete several study oriented works. you better know.
take care.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
21 May 11
Hiya shibs,
Like I told you yesterday my fingers go much faster when I can write freely. Well here I can write freely but having to stop and think about the other Person or People.
I think it´s good to be from different Countries and all that. Yes we do get on well here with you as you can see.
As to yet I have loads of ideas for a discussion but somebody always gets there before me. But I don´t mind I just join in the merit is for them and not for me.
They are more on the Ball than I am with that one.
I have just spent about half an hour trying to find out what my Husband has done with the Photos I had tagged yesterday. Eventually I found them but he has made me waste precious time you see. Well I forgive him have I got a choice in the matter?
You have a nice Day too.xxx
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
16 Feb 11
That is a valid point, I know I didn't repsond much when I first joined, then I noticed how people respond to each other, so I followed the lead and started responding to as many of my comments as I can, except when I'm tired, then it might not be a few days or something. But yes, I do know it is courteous to respond, and also we can glean some valuable wisdom from fellow mylotters as well as being free to share your own wisdom in turn.
I hope people get the message and we interact some more :-)
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
18 Feb 11
Well, I suppose people learn and comprehend at different rates. It also has to do with personalities, some are quiet, some are selfish,some just don't know what to say, some can yak your ear of if you give'em a chance, some are post-a-holics....
We just have to patiently teach, that's all :-)
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
16 Feb 11
What you say is correct.Those who post responses would like know the reaction of the person who started the discussion.It is natural.But as I have observed some people take time to post comments on the response for various reasons like lack of time or preoccupied with some other problem or urgent matters.In such cases it is OK.One should post a comment on the response. I agree
@chayapathys (2111)
• India
19 Feb 11
When you comment and what you coment does not really matter.But the curiosity to know the reaction is natural not only here but also in any walk of life.Let us not hurt the feeling of others..