Planet X: Nibiru and the Anunnaki
@quietlttlgrrl (33)
United States
February 18, 2011 12:06pm CST
so we have been hearing about this Planet X for some time now, the 3600 year orbit, how it orbits not only OUR Sun but another Brown Dwarf out in space, how it will be here in 2012, and will come so close to Earths orbit that we are at risk of even colliding with this planet (being the absolute worst case scenario), we have even been hearing that Nibiru is inhabited by intelligent life (the Anunnaki, supposedly where the ancient Sumerians came from)and they will return (just like the Bible says God will return) theres so much and none of us know what is real and what is not. i would like to know what people honestly think of this topic.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Feb 11
I am going to respond to this but only on the condition that you come back to this discussion. Many users plop a discussion out there then never return to it (you don't earn anything that way anyways). So, on to my response
My first reaction was:
*facepalm*
My next reaction was to realize that not everyone studies astronomy and that there are literally thousands of variations of this myth floating around the web. So, please pardon my first reaction, I meant no insult.
My third reaction is to explain the reality. In short, no, there is no planet Nibiru in our solar system. Nor is there a Nibiru orbiting a brown dwarf anywhere near our solar system. the term "planet X" is used by astronomers to describe unknown planets. It is just a term, it is not an actual planet.
Nibiru is the name of an imaginary planet many believe is on an oblong 3600 year orbit in our solar system, bringing havoc every time it swings in. This planet as well (and as I said) does not exist. In fact, it cannot exist. Lets look at the mechanics of such a planet. This planet is purported to be about 5 times the size of earth. It is also purported to be on a 3600 year orbit that takes it way out beyond the Kuiper Belt at it's furthest... and near the orbit of Earth at it's closest...all in a mere 3600 years. The problem with this is that a planet that size, traveling at that speed, would be moving so much mass so fast that it would have been reached what is known as "escape velocity" and be ejected from the solar system. In other words, it is moving too fast to be held in orbit by the sun's gravity.
The second problem is that if it is supposed to be here in 2012, it should be around the orbit of Saturn or Jupiter by now. If this were the case, you would be able to see it with the naked eye.
There are no less than a few hundred thousand amateur astronomers around the world, all who know the skies pretty well and know very well what should be where and when. So far, none have looked through a telescope (or through naked eye) and reported a planet out there where there should be no planet. Believe me, if they had, they would all be fighting over who discovered it first and it would be a major and historic astronomy announcement.
Some of the myths about Nibiru also claim some pretty wild things. One of which is that it can somehow only be seen by a telescope at the south pole. I can assure you this is not at all true either. Unless the planet was only a few miles across and floating only a few miles above the ground at the north pole, you could see it ANYWHERE from the southern half of the Earth...likely from any point on the earth north and south if it was far enough out. You can prove this to yourself with a simple experiment. Take a couple of balls. place on on the floor and hold the other one up inb the air....far far above it. Now draw an imaginary line from the ball on the floor to anywhere on the ball in your hand. That imaginary line is your line of site from anywhere on earth. This should tell you where you could and not see it from earth.
Other proponents of the Nibiru myth is that Nibiru is itself a brown dwarf and as such...cannot possibly be seen. This too is not correct for a few reasons. First a "brown dwarf" is not actually brown. A brown dwarf is an object that did not gather enough mass to cause fusion to begin in it's core to become a star. However, it is still quite hot and still quite bright. It would still be bright enough to see with the naked eye. even if it were only reflecting light back from the sun, it would still be visible. They are quite large too...the smallest brown dwarfs are nearly 8 times the size of Jupiter.....you couldn't miss it.
Even if you couldn't see it (and you could,if it existed) the effects it's gravity would have on the rest of the objects in our solar system would be more than noticeable to anyone who even lightly studies the skies.
Most of this myth originated from an author named Zacharia Sitchin. the man wrote a great story but that is all it is...a story. He is wildly wrong on his Sumerian translations and more importantly, he is even more wildly wrong on his astronomy.
The 2012 part is added later by other people who perpetuate the myth. Sitchin never gave an exact date in his books but his calculations actually put it's arrival at around 2004. People began adding 2012 to try and tie it in with that Mayan calender nonsense.....the Mayan calender doesn't predict any disasters by the way (another myth) and it doesn't "end" (another myth)...it rolls over like ours does every year.
So, I hope this helps you. Welcome to Mylot by the way.
@quietlttlgrrl (33)
• United States
19 Feb 11
thank you for responding so thoroughly, you touched upon many of the pieces of "information" i have come across, for i have only been studying this subject for a short time now and haven't been able to hear a lot of other peoples point of view on the it.... until now :)
i am not saying that i believe all or any of this, since i wont really believe something until i can see it with my own eyes, and i have seen nothing groundbreaking yet, that's why i brought this topic here, to see what others think of it, and hopefully get some feedback that i can ponder on, which you produced exactly. thank you xfahcor, you brought many snippets into perspective for me. (and thanks for the welcome)
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Feb 11
You are most welcome miss. I do hope I did not come across as being snide.....I tend to do that sometimes and it is merely the way I type, it's hard to gauge a persons actual intentions through simple text sometimes.
I tried to touch on many of the aspects of the myth I see out there, or at least the most common. There are a LOT of them, lol.
I also notice you mentioned in another of your discussions that you were born in Maine. May I ask where exactly in Maine? I live in New Hampshire but spend a lot of time In Maine because my girlfriend lives there, in the Oxford hills area.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
21 Feb 11
This sounds like a sci-fi movie story here. Anyway I haven't heard about that but the theory is very interesting to hear. I would like to research on this to see how true is this one. But for now I guess this is purely skeptical and not yet proven to be true at all.
@quietlttlgrrl (33)
• United States
21 Feb 11
weather its true or not, its a very interesting story in the least, there's a lot of videos on you-tube about it, and the way i see it, im sure stranger things have happened in this universe :)
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
26 Feb 11
Hello Quietgirl,
I maybe a Catholic but i strongly believed not everything on the bible is really a fact but mere symbolism of what things to come or what has happened in the past. we are newly made species and there's no way the world would end unless there is something messed up in the Mothernature all because we freaking DID it.
I don't want to believe that now before i got addicted to watching it. but our lives are short to start wondering about these Annunaki and some planet in this solar system that we haven't seen before.