A dummy's guide to swim in make money online waters at myLot.
By topffer
@topffer (42156)
France
February 23, 2011 6:17am CST
Everybody can read in the guidelines that members are not authorized to "post any links promoting other affiliate programs". This includes affiliate marketing links and Paid To Click -- PTC -- links. MyLot is not an advertising forum and members have no signature. If you have read that forums are a good way to get referrals, you must know that myLot will delete all discussions and responses including referral links, and that you will earn nothing with them.
New members must be aware that waters of making money online are shark-infested at myLot
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Do not believe everything you read in these interests :
Some members will try to refer you to a new site, saying that they have already made a fortune with it. You are dummies, not idiots 
: if a site has just launched, nobody can have earned anything, and if they show you a proof, it cannot be anything else than a fake proof.
Some members are good for indirect advertising. They will not say "Join x", but they will attract you in their discussion with a stupid title like "Do not join Neobux", just to drive you to their profile page in their comments and try to refer you to other PTCs.
Some others will propose you to exchange a PTC link and will not click on your site. In this case, why would you click in their PTC ?
New members must be also aware that all sharks in these waters are not involved in PTC. You will also find sharks in affiliate marketing. Some are using black SEO marketing techniques in their profile, so be careful when you click a link in a profile page : you can get fast an adware or a spyware in your computer.
Beware also of tasks offering you a few cents to download and install a software : the task giver can be a harmless "click farmer" fraudster... or somebody more dangerous for your data.
And if you are decided to lose fifteen minutes for a task paid 1 or 2 cents, make a quick search to find how much the member offering this task is earning in this operation. After all, maybe have you just found an affiliate gold mine ?
If you think that you have learned enough in this discussion to swim at myLot, you are still dummy and will go straight to the bottom : don't you know that you cannot learn how to swim in a text 
? You need to practice it now. Do not hesitate to ask other members to help you during your first days, help yourself and avoid the most common mistakes : read the guidelines and the faq.
Are dummies less dummy now ? I expect comments from not dummy members only :)
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Do not believe everything you read in these interests :
Some members will try to refer you to a new site, saying that they have already made a fortune with it. You are dummies, not idiots : if a site has just launched, nobody can have earned anything, and if they show you a proof, it cannot be anything else than a fake proof.
Some members are good for indirect advertising. They will not say "Join x", but they will attract you in their discussion with a stupid title like "Do not join Neobux", just to drive you to their profile page in their comments and try to refer you to other PTCs.
Some others will propose you to exchange a PTC link and will not click on your site. In this case, why would you click in their PTC ?
New members must be also aware that all sharks in these waters are not involved in PTC. You will also find sharks in affiliate marketing. Some are using black SEO marketing techniques in their profile, so be careful when you click a link in a profile page : you can get fast an adware or a spyware in your computer.
Beware also of tasks offering you a few cents to download and install a software : the task giver can be a harmless "click farmer" fraudster... or somebody more dangerous for your data.
And if you are decided to lose fifteen minutes for a task paid 1 or 2 cents, make a quick search to find how much the member offering this task is earning in this operation. After all, maybe have you just found an affiliate gold mine ?
If you think that you have learned enough in this discussion to swim at myLot, you are still dummy and will go straight to the bottom : don't you know that you cannot learn how to swim in a text ? You need to practice it now. Do not hesitate to ask other members to help you during your first days, help yourself and avoid the most common mistakes : read the guidelines and the faq.
Are dummies less dummy now ? I expect comments from not dummy members only :)10 responses
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
23 Feb 11
Well I spend 3 quarters of my time on myLot helping members and I truly do not mind as I was once new and did not get assistance the way I try to provide it. However, let me tell you what happen to me a couple days ago.
A member posted how do I earn, so okay pretty simple right, and topffer I am sure you can attest that I have never been negative to anyone nor is it my intention to enter negative discussions. So I responded and went through my own routine, although I have to admit I am a very original poster. I do not copy/paste any of my responses. I will give a different style with the same concept when someone is asking to earn.
So I went and explained all the benefits about quality discussions, responses and commenting. A really nice post as I do re-read to make sure I do not give a new member misleading information, naturally I gave the guideline link as we all know algorithms are a big NO, NO! Before I applied my response I saw many clearly speaking of their earning and all saying read the rules but no one was assisting the member with what he actually was asking for. So entering the discussion, I knew very well the discussion would be deleted. 98% of the time I do know they will be but my thinking is not earning or what I am going to loose. As it it to help.
So what happens someone/maybe the OP, oh I don't know, reported my response as irrelevant to the discussion. REALLY?? hmm oh well, I do hope that whomever did lasts as long as me and still be willing to help others. However, the point is that although I thought I was "helping" the member some people do not want to be helped. They really don't (star) ups and downs can prove that to "me".
So I do try to continue with my mentality of helping and at the same time keep my character in tact.
PS. even though my valuable comment was deleted and I received a scolding for it, the entire discussion was deleted and the member went on to violate guideline with his next following discussions. hmmmm, so some will learn and appreciate, while others give up, is my guess.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
23 Feb 11
I am appalled at what I have just read here 
I am seeing that there are several Lotters who are now trying to help the newer ones but I am also noticing that there are others who are not happy that this guidance is being given out. What are they frightened of? Can they not see that if we all help them then we all stand to gain because they just might go on to be great new Lotters and bring us some great topics? Or is that the problem indeed? 
I am seeing that there are several Lotters who are now trying to help the newer ones but I am also noticing that there are others who are not happy that this guidance is being given out. What are they frightened of? Can they not see that if we all help them then we all stand to gain because they just might go on to be great new Lotters and bring us some great topics? Or is that the problem indeed? 2 people like this
@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
23 Feb 11
The never ending cycle continues to prove that they are not taking the time to read the guidelines. It is always a pleasure to see many appreciate the help and become really successful here.
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@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Feb 11
Hi Friend: Really sorry this happened to you, especially since you are someone who goes out of her way to assist others.But,it is oh so true, some people do not want help, but, what i don't understand is, why ask for any in the first place?
It seems even when someone takes the time to give a well thought out response, as soon as some people see the guidelines link,they get insulted and all upset and even though both discussions were deleted for violations,some members will still ask the same questions over and over, thinking that perhaps the answer my be different, unbelievable! and rest assured the next questions to follow are "why were my posts deleted?", it's like a never ending cycle.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
23 Feb 11
That topic has now gone and hopefully she will not use those tactics again 
Whenever I see that she is enticing new users into her PMs I fear for them. They still have to get their feet wet in online earning and faling into thos traps will give them the wrong idea forever.
Hopefully we can all be on the lookout for her next venture 
Whenever I see that she is enticing new users into her PMs I fear for them. They still have to get their feet wet in online earning and faling into thos traps will give them the wrong idea forever.
Hopefully we can all be on the lookout for her next venture 1 person likes this
@topffer (42156)
• France
24 Feb 11
I extract a few line exchanged with a common friend who is no more a myLot's member -- you made a discussion when he left, mysdiana -- when she joined here a month ago :
"i hate that kind of people here
they just wanna get referrals
and when you warn them, you are the bad guy (...)
i warn her and she suddenly give me a defense talking (...)"
He was new at myLot but understood perfectly what she was doing : we go in her discussions just to warn new members, but she thinks that she is so superior to us, that I am sure like robin that we will see soon another discussion with the same springs.
She is not alone, and some members playing with affiliate marketing are more dangerous and more clever -- even if she thinks that this is impossible --, but I can't explain what they are doing in a "dummy guide" : I do not want to create new vocations
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--, but I can't explain what they are doing in a "dummy guide" : I do not want to create new vocations.
@carol2532001 (467)
• Jamaica
23 Feb 11
You are quite right topffer, a lot of the new members don't read the tos until they get deleted or another member informs them of the rules. I got caught a couple times responding to posts that were deleted, I keep forgetting and just respond. Sometimes I don't even remember what the response was! As to the scammers, I got caught twice, I had the banners up and as soon as I found out I removed them. Those were unfortunate but I was able to get a few good sites through members here (am I spamming now? I don't even know, there is such a thin line here).
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www.dummies are here/.com.
So what are you going to do about it?
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
23 Feb 11
Good post friend, the anti dummy law 101 at Mylot, hope they read all provisions and clauses entered therein, especially new members and those trying to take advantage of the system or trying to sneak in a few .....
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@topffer (42156)
• France
23 Feb 11
Hello friend,
I hope that it will help new members. I do not like to see one scammed and saying on a blog later that "I have been scammed by a myLot's member, so myLot is a scam". If I can avoid to a handful to be victim of a scammer in a money interest at myLot, it is already a victory. However I know that many new members do not want to read more than a line or two in a discussion and that some dummies will stay dummies forever
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.@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
23 Feb 11
Don't forget to remind them to read the fine prints
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@akhileshebay (416)
• India
23 Feb 11
ya you are correct I was be fooled by 2 people on mylot.
I was referred to some sites which later turned scam or stopped paying.
That was really a bad experience for me.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
24 Feb 11
A site can always turn to scam, and it depends if the referrer intended to scam you or not. There are two sort of members posting a referral link here : new members who do not know the guidelines and are doing it honestly, and... sharks, knowing perfectly that they are referring to a site that has 95% of chance to turn to scam in one month or two, and that the only way to cash out is to pass the finish line before others, by referring and fooling other members. One goal of this discussion is to warn new members about some common risks in these money interests, to avoid a bad experience like yours.
@akhileshebay (416)
• India
24 Feb 11
ya you are right
they guys vanishes after making people fool...Thanks
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@topffer (42156)
• France
24 Feb 11
For me "freely" has to be limited at what you can do without any damage to other members. It is not forbidden to talk about a new earning site at myLot or to share your opinion about an old earning site. What is forbidden is to give an affiliate or referral link. I know that some members are doing this honestly : when you give a link in a PM to one of your friends, you do not want to see the site turning to scam a week later... But some are lying to be able to get a payout with some referrals just before the definitive closing of a site. It is unfair, and the best way to avoid this is to forbid totally these links : myLot protects us and protects also the reputation of this site. Maybe have you enough experience to be able to evaluate by yourself the potential of an earning site, but this is not the case for every myLot's member... And for the bad reputation, it is true, but :
1) you see the reputation of a member when he has more than (100) besides his/her user name. 3/4 of the scammers here do not reach this number : their account is deleted before by myLot, which does a very good job -- at least in my opinion -- to keep these sharks out of these waters ;
2) many new members do not know what means this star rating. You will say that it is their fault and that they have to read the faq, and I agree somewhere. But you can also read discussions at myLot when you are not a member, and you cannot ask to people outside to know the faq...
@inu1711 (5285)
• Romania
23 Feb 11
Hello Topffer,
How can you say you expect comments only from not dummy members, when you said one line before that dummies are invited to ask other members to help? What if I'm a dummy and I want to learn more about this subject? Can't I write my questions in a response here?
Lucky you I'm only half dummy! I don't have any more questions but you gave me some nice ideas.
Can I play the shark's role in those make money online muddy waters? 
Can't I write my questions in a response here?
Lucky you I'm only half dummy! I don't have any more questions but you gave me some nice ideas. Can I play the shark's role in those make money online muddy waters? 1 person likes this
@glitterwings (144)
• United States
24 Feb 11
I just plan to get on mylot and write as much as I can and get to know people so I can make some extra cash while chatting. I think it's a really great idea for making money, and i'm hoping that if I am diligent I can earn some money for me and my family. Thanks for your opinion!
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@topffer (42156)
• France
24 Feb 11
Hello glitterwings,
You are an old member, and you already know that you will not make a fortune with myLot, but it is a good place to share our views, have some fun with friends and earn a few cents. It is enough for me to be addicted with this site. I started this discussion to help new members to avoid some traps in these "make money" interests. MyLot is better every day, and there are less scammers today than one year ago, but there are still some sharks waiting to catch a fish in these waters, so be careful when you join new sites to earn some more money.
Have a nice evening.
@LaLaNoShade (45)
• United States
24 Feb 11
I'm a new member. So I want all the help I can get on earning on Mylot. Of course I won't be downloading anything or joining websites at random. I want to know what you really have to do in order to earn a pay-out on Mylot?? Any helpful advice would be great. thanks.
@topffer (42156)
• France
24 Feb 11
Welcome to myLot LaLaNoShade !
It is very easy to earn a payout with myLot. Begin by the end of this discussion, and read first the FAQ and the guidelines... In two lines, this is your response : you earn with your words in your discussions, responses and comments, not with the responses or comments from others. So, write quality discussions and responses, and you will soon get your payout without even thinking about it.
You can also earn by using the search bar -- you can win random rewards -- and by doing tasks.
... In two lines, this is your response : you earn with your words in your discussions, responses and comments, not with the responses or comments from others. So, write quality discussions and responses, and you will soon get your payout without even thinking about it.
You can also earn by using the search bar -- you can win random rewards -- and by doing tasks.