Have you killed live chicken or fish for food?
By scheng1
@scheng1 (24649)
Singapore
February 28, 2011 1:29am CST
For most of us living in the big city, we buy the dead chicken or fish from the supermarket and cook them.
We do not need to kill the live chicken or live fish.
I think most of us never even get to handle the duck, chicken, pig, cow and other animals while they are still alive.
It will terrify us to take a knife and kill the fish or animals.
The people of my parent's generation did keep live stocks at home when they were young. That was the time when Singapore was less developed, and people still lived in countryside.
What about you? Have you killed the live animal for food?
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32 responses
@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
2 Mar 11
I used to fish all the time, and I would keep the fish to bring home and eat. I would usually clean them and put them in the freezer for later use. I grew up hunting and fishing, so this is all second-nature to me. However, I do not kill animals just for the sake of killing them. I never kill any such animal that I do not intend to eat. Killing animals just to be doing it, or just to have a trophy to hang on your wall is wrong. When I kill an animal, I try to use as much of the animal as I can...
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@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
2 Mar 11
Well I wasn't referring to nuisance animals at all. I was just talking about killing for food. However, I know what you mean. I have no problem killing something that is causing a problem or posing a threat when the situation calls for it, but I do try to avoid it if I can. I make an effort to help relocate animals that simply find themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is actually a lizard that has been hanging out on my screen-door for a couple days that I need to set free. I will probably do that before I go to bed. He isn't hurting anything, but he may be getting thirsty by now. LOL
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@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
9 Mar 11
Well I have to say that I have not killed for food in quite some time. I can go to the store and get beef, pork, chicken, and other meats. However, I do like to hunt when I have the time, so I would have no problem killing a deer or some sort of small game to have as a meal. I also like to fish, and I always try to eat what I catch if I keep them, however, depending on the type of fish I catch, I also try to release them back into the water unharmed if I do not plan to bring it home.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Goldeneagle, when I was young, our country was still a developing country, a third world country.
That was the time when most people were poor.
They lived in a hut, with leaking roof, and they kept pigs, ducks, chickens, and cows for food.
It was very natural for them to kill the animals for food.
If not, they would not have meat on the table.
In those days, they killed and eat meat only once or twice a month, after prayer to God, or certain festivals like Chinese New Year.
Now the situation is different.
Most of us live in high rise apartments, and the country is a famous city in the world.
It is unthinkable to kill a chicken for food, since we can get the frozen or freshly killed chicken from the supermarket.
i think environment plays a part.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
1 Mar 11
I used to go fishing all the time as a kid. Most of the time, my dad did the actual slaughter (cutting and cleaning) because he didn't trust us kids with a sharp knife. I don't think I could do it now if my life depended on it. The thought of cutting something is uncomfortable for me.
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@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
6 Mar 11
I can go along with that. I can't picture being in that kind of situation, but you never know what will happen. If there were a nuclear war and there were few survivors, that instinct would definitely kick in.
@daeckardt (6237)
• United States
9 Mar 11
I guess I have read too many books and watched too many movies where there would be a few survivors that started the world over again. But I guess fried chicken it would be!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
9 Mar 11
Hi Daeckardt, if nuclear war happens, I think we are likely to become the food of the surviving insects, such as ants and cockroaches.
Probably bedbugs too. These are the creatures that survived every disaster.
I doubt we have the energy to go around and hunt for chicken.
Maybe what we can get is fried chicken!
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@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
1 Mar 11
I have not killed chickens myself. When my kids were still at home we used to go fishing. I have killed and cleaned fish. When i was a kid i was raised by my grandparents. They had chickens all the time. We collected eggs all summer and before winter all would be killed and in our freezer.
@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
7 Mar 11
Yes, i believe my childhood was good happy one. Me and my sibling were raised by our grandparents. We were a little older so i remember the chickens. Between 5 and teen. They had chickens every year. They also had a shop that sold fishing bait and tackle. We went on fishing trips. I was a single parent and had a son and daughter. To bond with my son we went fishing and camping. When we were kids i dont remember a lot about the killing of the chickens but i know they did because we alwys had chicken in the freezer. I only remember witnessing one kiling. I remember the body of the chickens were running around without the head. Maybe thats why they didnt want us to watch. It was kind of freaky. I also remember around spring they would give us each turkey or duck to raise. Sometime in the fall they disappeared with stories about dogs getting them. I believe they were our holiday meals.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
9 Mar 11
Hi Jdyrj, I think your grandparents were wise enough to keep you all away, so that you would not have nightmare watching headless chicken running everywhere, and dripping blood.
It is very kind of them.
However, I find it is sort of cruel to kill the duck and turkey that the kids had treated as pets.
While rearing chicken for the sake of eating dinner is fine, since the understanding is there from the start, the fact is that pets have special meaning in the life of a kid.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Jdyrj777, you seem to have a very happy childhood.
I forgotten the days of collecting eggs. I think that was before the age of five. My mother could still remember asking me to collect the eggs, but I was too young to recall it.
I think that is a very nice experience.
The fishing plus the rearing of chicken, and collecting eggs.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
5 Mar 11
Not only have I never done so, I hope I never have to. From what I remember fish is put on ice after it is caught and not kept alive, at least that is how it is for most people.
As for the slaughter of livestock and poultry, there is so much more work involved than just the killing. Slaughter is distasteful enough, but there is also the draining of blood, removal of skin, etc. Most people don't want the work of cutting up a chicken that has already been cleaned even though it is cheaper to by the whole chicken than the parts already separated.
In any case, I don't eat meat so I doubt I will ever be faced with this task.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Canellita, at least you have a choice of living away from the city, and enjoy the garden.
For us in Singapore, land is so scarce that buildings are getting higher and higher, and only the very rich can afford to have landed properties.
I think keeping a few chicken is a good idea.
If space is a constraint, then keeping button quails is a better idea.
You do not even need to get the quails out of the cage.
They cannot fly, and they are so small that the cage is big enough for them to last a lifetime.
You can collect the quail eggs every day.
The quails will lay eggs as long as they have 12 hours of light.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Canellita, we are fortunate to have abundant food without the need to farm or hunt or fish.
I think the commercial breeder kills the fish by freezing them, so that they die in less pain.
Now the factory has taken over the tasks of killing chicken and turkey, so that consumers can just buy the meat from the supermarket.
I think with the amount that people in the city are eating, it will take hundred of workers to kill manually.
I have never killed any animal for food either. That is the advantage of living in the city.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
6 Mar 11
I have seen documentaries of how chickens are treated and it will make you want to either raise your own or stop eating chicken. The commercialization of animal husbandry is both the best and the worst thing to happen to us with regard to the availability of food.
For a long time I have thought of raising chickens for eggs and I don't even like to eat eggs. I use them every now and then for cooking and my family eats them. It would be nice to have a little place away from the city to have a few chickens and grow vegetables and herbs.
I wouldn't mind having goats (cheese) and a couple sheep (wool) as well, but that is lot of work and you have to keep the animals healthy.
@blackhillsgold (88)
• United States
2 Mar 11
I have never killed a chicken.
I have killed fish
I am Cup'ik Eskimo in Alaska, killing animals for subsistence is "normal" for my people. I have taken part in killing other animals as well, but I have not myself, killed a chicken.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Blackhillsgold, if chicken were common in your region, you would have killed the chicken for dinner.
i have not done any of this, since I stay in the big city, and everything is available in the supermarket.
I think if we were to switch places, I would have to learn to kill in order to survive.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
9 Mar 11
Hi Blackhillsgold, I doubt I will ever step into Alaska in my lifetime.
It is a completely different climate from Singapore.
Over here, we are just one degree north from the Equator, and the sun shines everyday.
It rains nearly every two days, and the weather is hot and humid.
I do not think I like the cold and dryness in Alaska.
If you ever come here, you must try our durian here. You will not forget the taste and the smell.
@blackhillsgold (88)
• United States
6 Mar 11
hello scheng1,
in Alaska we have grocery stores where we can buy the chicken. I simply meant, I have never had to kill a chicken. LOL
:)
if you were here, you'd still be able to go to a grocery store and buy your food if you had the means too or if you preferred.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
28 Feb 11
Hi Jpace, my goodness, I think killing rabbits is worse than killing chicken and fish for food.
over here, many people keep rabbits as pets, not for food.
They can never get over the fact that rabbits are killed for food.
However, I agree that keeping animals for food is a good idea, especially in the countryside.
At least the poor people can save some money, and even earn a spare income from selling the rabbits, chickens and other farm animals.
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@mezsalman (34)
• United Arab Emirates
1 Mar 11
Yeah, rabbits are so cute feel sad to kill n eat them, but at the same time it just happens liek chicken, gots, cows....but since rabbits are appearently cute lookign animal sow e all love them more rather than eating them.,...
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Mar 11
Hi Mezsalman, at least it sounds better than killing dogs or skinning cats for food. Some places are famous for the dog and cat dishes.
I think many people who are pet lovers overreact when they know that the Thais and certain Chinese provinces have such practices.
After all, those are poor people, and they have eaten cats and dogs for centuries.
For us who have never starve for more than a day, and do not know what hunger is, we have no right to criticize those people.
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
1 Mar 11
I have only fixed fish that I have caught for food. I've never killed anything else.
My mother grew up on a farm and told me that she used to watch her grandmother kill chickens, then prepare them for cooking. She never killed any herself, though.
Once, while I was out driving, a deer ran into my car and broke it's back. A police officer came and shot it in the head to kill it and put it out of it's misery. When I saw the damage to my car that the deer caused, I asked the officer if I could have the deer. He said yes and put it in the trunk of my car for me. When I got it home, I hung it, then skinned and gutted it, then chopped it up and put the meat in my freezer. I was so angry at the damage it caused my car (when I did not have insurance to cover deer-damage and this was about $2,0000 worth of damage), I had no trouble at all cutting into that deer!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
5 Mar 11
Hi Mentalward, I think the stupid deer is really asking for trouble.
It should have run away from your car, instead of heading straight to your car.
Using the car to kill an animal must be more fun than using a knife to slaughter the animal.
I think the police officers in your area must have more deer meat than other meat for dinner.
Too bad the deer does not come up to a cost of two thousand dollars.
You would have made a profit if the deer costs more than four thousand dollars. In this case, you can let your car hits those creatures every week.
@voldrox (7191)
• India
28 Feb 11
Hello scheng,
No, i haven't done that ever. Well, some of my friends have. I have killed them but i have seen them being killed in front of me, mostly chicken. I could eat them after seeing them die, but i don't think i can muster the courage it needs to kill them. I don't want to kill them either, i just want someone who could so that i can eat them. After thinking about this all, i wonder how some vegetarians would feel when we slaughter them for food.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
1 Mar 11
Anyone who eats meat, kills it - even if inadvertently. If no one ate meat, there would be no reason for others to do the dirty work. But eating it means you are still a party to the slaughter.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
4 Mar 11
Hi Voldrox and Mysticmaggie, the Buddhism books put it more bluntly about killing animals.
It basically mentions that everyone who kills and terminates the life of others, be it directly or indirectly, has to pay sooner or later.
That is the concept of karma.
It is used to explain the natural disasters and other disasters in the world today. That means when we kill too many animals and eat their meat, we will upset the ecology and balance of the Earth energy.
That is why we pay for it with our lives and with our health.
Most of us know that it is cruel to kill the animals, and even animals can cry and beg for mercy.
However, it is nearly impossible to get most people to eat less meat or go on vegetarian diet.
@joro1best (222)
• Bulgaria
28 Feb 11
I've never killed a chicken,rabbit and other.I've killed only bugs(but not to eat them afcourse) and fish.My grandparents kill the animals said.My grandma kills them to be exact.She is a nurse and thats the reason she isn't guilty for that.Hope you understand me.. When the chickens are young and lay eggs we don't kill them.We kill only the roosters.In the summer when we watch rabbits we reproduce them for food.In the end of the summer i go fishing with my grandpa and that's the only moment when i kill fishes.But i'm still guilty even if its a fish.But thats the nature - you have to eat.Every animal kills other animals so it can live on this world.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
1 Mar 11
I lived in the city for many years and had friends who hunted for deer, rabbits, squirrel, geese and ducks. Living in the city does not mean no one hunts. There may be fewer people who do so, but even big executives of companies go on hunting trips - not only here, but in other countries, where more exotic animals are hunted.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
28 Feb 11
Hi Joro1best, I do not dare to kill the animals, partly is due to the fact that everything is so conveniently packed in the supermarket.
if I were to live in the countryside, I definitely have to learn to kill the chicken for meat.
I agree that killing for food is part of nature.
After all, the way the animals kill each other in nature is even worse.
I think when people are in the countryside, hunting, fishing and killing the animals for food is a great skill.
If you put city folks in the wilderness, I think they will become the food for the animals instead.
@babyEj (1522)
• Philippines
28 Feb 11
When I stayed in our countryside for vacation I and y brother had a competition how to kill a chicken. My father illustrated it. Then at the count of three I and my brother started to kill our food. He did it first. I am too lame to see cut-head of chicken and blood in my hands that made me stopped for awhile... I felt bad after. But the bad feeling fade away easily then we ate our roasted chicken.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
haha BabyEj, when you say that "the blood in my hands that made me stopped for a while", I have such horrible thought.
I thought the chicken run away, and drip blood everywhere.
I think environment does play a part.
Over here, we live in high rise apartments, and nobody will think of rearing chicken for food.
The government has outlawed the sale of live chicken in the market.
We can only get the frozen or freshly killed chicken.
If we had lived in the countryside, i think I can even kill a pig. The reason is that pork is used in many of our dishes.
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
12 Apr 11
Nope. But my family pretty much knows how to kill a chicken.
Whenever I go home for a visit, mom usually cooks a broth with native chicken and she just usually have my brother choose a chicken from the yard. They would butcher it and cook it. I can't catch a kitchen by myself, all the more kill it with my own hands. I don't want to get blood on my hands but I like to eat them. Native chicken just tastes so good!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
12 Apr 11
Hi Sweet_pea, surprising to hear that you do not dare to kill the chicken!
I guess if I were to have a house with chicken in the backyard, I would learn to kill the chicken, otherwise I would have no dinner.
Fortunately your mother and brother do all the dirty work for you, you can just sit down and eat like a queen!
@sweet_pea (3322)
• Philippines
14 Apr 11
Oh they do treat me like a queen when I go home.
I am the only girl in the brood of four.
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
1 Mar 11
Killing animals for food: I imagine it's like plucking fruit from trees for food. Oh! How the fruit-trees SCREAM!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Mythociate, if the environment changes, I think all of us will learn to adapt in order to survive.
For those in the countryside, hunting and killing animals for food is just part of life.
Nothing so great about about shooting the deer, the rabbit, and then killing them for dinner.
Those in the cities look at things different.
They just do not need to do so.
If they were to get stuck in a remote island, and the only way to survive is to hunt and fish, everyone would be skillful in killing, cleaning and cooking the animals and fish.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
9 Mar 11
Hi Mythociate, I never heard of this concept before.
I think it makes sense in a way.
cooking definitely reduces the chance of us getting sick from eating raw meat, and raw vegetables.
It definitely helps in digestion too.
However, i doubt those who decide on raw food diet are less smarter. I think it has to do with our knowledge of proper eating habit too.
@mythociate (21432)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Mar 11
I remember a Science-channel evolution-special that said one of the main reasons our brains evolved so well is because we started 'cooking' our food (which incidentally starts the digestion process for us, so our body's energy can focus more on 'what we do').
@FaniKaka (44)
• Pakistan
28 Feb 11
I never killed a chicken but I love hunting specially Rabbit and birds hunting plus fish catching and ultimately you have to kill them in order to eat so Yes i did.
I love adventure so once or twice in a year i went with my friends on an adventurous tour and most of the times we went to northern areas of Pakistan where we do camping near the river or near a lake and only few people live there so less chances of getting food from there so we hunt for food
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
5 Mar 11
Hi Fanikaka, that is very interesting.
You have the best of both worlds, being able to live comfortably in the village and the cities.
Just too bad that Singapore is too small, and there is nowhere we can call it a village.
i think most of us want to retire to a village where the pace of life is slower, and air is fresher.
That is why many Singaporeans buy houses abroad.
Even then, I doubt hunting is part of their plan for retirement.
@isadora (22)
• China
1 Mar 11
from born to now,i haven't kill animal , but i saw my parents did it when i am younger.when i grew up, i begun to cook,every time i buy chicken or something else to cook,it needn't myself to kill. it can not only save my time but also avoid facing terrible sense.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
5 Mar 11
Hi Isadora, my parents used to kill the chicken when I was young too.
That was the only way to put chicken on the dinning table.
Those days are gone forever now.
Singapore is now a modern city, and not a village anymore.
We do not keep live animals at home, and no seller can sell live animals except live fish.
I am too lazy to buy a whole chicken, and then chop it up for cooking.
I prefer to buy the chopped parts, and just put a few pieces into the boiling hot water to make chicken soup.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Isadora, at least the government in Singapore keeps a tight control over the quality of food.
We can be quite certain that all the meat sold in the supermarket passed the stringent control.
However, I agree that food safety is a concern in China.
The country is just too big for the government to check every single chicken, duck or pig.
I think as long as we use our common sense, it is quite all right.
I love chicken soup too, especially when double boiled in herbs.
@isadora (22)
• China
5 Mar 11
now,there are only a few people kill chicken by themselves.i like cook very much,certanily,i willing to prepare delicious food.In China,there are many ways to cook chicken, not only for soup,but chicken soup is much more nutrition.
In supermaket,never seen the live chicken,everybody biy chopped parts,it is also have advantages,you can buy which parts you like.but there are still have problems that you don't know whether the chicken is healthy or not.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
2 Mar 11
I was brought up on a farm. As the oldest child, I learned to do just about anything. It didn't bother me to use the ax to chop off a chicken's head, pluck it, take out the entrails, cut it up and cook it. I could still enjoy eating it once it was on the table. However, when it came time to butcher the animals, I was glad that I was a girl and could get by with hiding until after they were killed and bled out. Of course, I was still expected to help prepare the meat for the freezer. It didn't bother me to help scrape the hair off the hog after it had been dipped in scalding water, even though it would still have the head and feet attached. The calves were a different matter. That animal had to be skinned and have the head removed before I could stand to look at the carcass. I was relieved when my father started to take the animals to a custom butcher. I'd see them go off in the back of the truck and come back all wrapped in butcher paper labeled steaks, ribs, hamburger, etc.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Mar 11
Hi Bellis, for people of my mother's generation and my grandparents' generation, they are very used to farm life too.
If they did not keep the chicken, and killed the chicken, they would not have meat to eat.
Anyway most of them ate meat only a few times a year.
They could not afford the luxury of eating meat, since they needed to sell off the live chicken to pay for other expenses too.
I think the factory assembly line has taken the job of killing thousands of chicken everyday for sale in the supermarket.
Most of us in the cities do not need to kill or witness the killing.
We just have to go to the supermarket, choose the package, and then pay for it.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
1 Mar 11
I have never killed any animal. Well actually, I have gone fishing before, but I don't do that anymore since I don't eat fish. I never want to have to kill my own food. This is why I don't go hunting.
@sammy14 (834)
• Philippines
2 Mar 11
Hello... yes I have when I was still young! I killed a live chicken! It was funny then not scary... I almost severed its neck but it was still running..
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
8 Mar 11
Hi Aerous, my grandparents used to do it when they were alive.
People in those days were very poor, and they had to kill chicken for dinner, else there would be no meat on the table.
Even then, they did it on special occasion.
I think if we live in the countryside, we have to keep our own animals for food, and to kill them as well.
People in the city do not kill anything and then cook for dinner.
The nearest is fishing and killing the fish. Other than that, most people buy the meat from the supermarket.
@RamRes (1723)
• Argentina
8 Mar 11
As I live in city too, I've never done it myself nor see it personally, but I know all those things in supermarkets were murdered after all, for the sake of feeding the people. I know some things that are done to the animals in the farms from some comments and we may be terrified of some things that are common before the cow is on the freezer. So I guess I don't like to know the details, just to know that the meat was a cow some time ago is enough from me.
In the big cities, the only similar thing is fishing. It's quite common that people fish for sport and recreation at some rivers here and there, and then cook and eat the fishes they got.
Somewhat similar to the things done in mass on the farms.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
8 Mar 11
Hi Ramres, over here, many people like to fish and kill the fish for dinner too. Even then, it is relatively rare for a person to rely on fishing to get the fish for dinner.
Most people prefer to buy direct from the supermarket.
There are many arguments about the morality of keeping animals, and then killing them for food.
The fact is that without consumers who love meat, there will not be so animals killed every day.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
13 Mar 11
Hi Rabbe, for those living in the village, it is just a part of life to keep animals and then kill them for meals.
I think if we were to do it right in the cities, people will think us crazy.
It is probably all right to kill a fish that we catch from fishing.
However, keeping chicken and other farm animals just are not possible in high rise apartments.
Glad to hear that you have the best of both worlds, having stay in village and out of village.