Registration of Laptops and Cellphones

@staria (2780)
Philippines
March 2, 2011 6:47am CST
Some are proposing that laptops and cellular phones be registered or licensed. Some agree w/ this so that criminals will be tracked right away, as these people are already using hi-tech devices to push w/ their bad schemes. Some are worried for their personal privacy. I haven't thought about the pros and cons. But could be advantageous as long as your privacy is secured. But how will they catch those crooks if they wont be able to access the data? Right? Your thoughts on this?
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@Sanitary (3968)
• Singapore
3 Mar 11
IT might be a good thing as well as a bad thing. It would be good because we can trace those criminals easily, while bad in a way when we happen to lose our laptops or cellphones, used for illegal activites. It's going to be very troublesome, and actually benefitting those criminals. It gives them more valid reasons to steal, rob because whatever happens, as long as they are not caught, they would be fine.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Yeah, can give advantages and disadvantages as well. Who would not want security. But the mere fact that they might be able to trace your activities is already invasion of security/privacy, right?
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
5 Mar 11
They already have the Techknowlede to find this people takes awhile but really all they have to do is follow thw IP
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
7 Mar 11
Dont think I would like that they have to much eyes on us as it is
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
5 Mar 11
yeah, ISP can be easily tracked, the thing is (as far as I know) they want to register the laptop itself, so not quite sure how it'll work out.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
2 Mar 11
I might agree with cellphones but with laptops why? I personally agree that cellphones must be tracked down because they are the ones used for criminal activities and it could be easily tracked if they are registered to a person. As for laptops, I do not know why the need for it to be registered.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
I think that is too much and if that chip comes the hands of the criminals themselves we could be very much like sitting ducks if this goes to them. Life would be much easier for them to track us down and be victimized as well. I guess that is a bit harsh that even laptops can be tracked as well.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
I am not really sure why they would want to trace laptops too, maybe because criminals are using different ways to plan their stuff nowadays, but what I know is that they can easily track the ISP but how can they actually track laptops? By planting a microchip or stuff like that? Or maybe so that laptops can easily be traced if it is stolen and sold to some other store.
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@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
2 Mar 11
Criminals can already be tracked very quickly. Too tech stuff is going to end up biting us in the buttutzeee. I think they want to have another way of tracking us and they have enough already. If we give all our rights to privacy away then what? And once it's gone-its just gone!
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Correct, actually privacy is the main concern here. And I do think that officials cannot really be trusted at all. They have stained their image to the public that badly.
@celticeagle (168256)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Mar 11
I think so. Privacy would be nice but just add more problems. I think our own range of privacty is best. What the individual wants and it should be left up to them.
@epineda (66)
• Philippines
3 Mar 11
Guidelines for registration should be clear. Number one consideration is would there be a fee for registering your device? Number 2 are we sure the persons who will do the monitoring not abuse their authority? The DOJ is studying if it does not violate our bill of rights so we'll have to wait for their opinion. With all th info campaign against cyber criminals and the safe use of your online accounts if someone falls victim then only he/she is to blame for not being responsible enough to protect himself.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
It should be clear and WELL implemented. Our enforcers are sometimes also breakers of the law that they implement. So they need to be guided and watched over by the govt.
• Philippines
5 Mar 11
Well said, agree with your comment.
@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
3 Mar 11
I know even government sites are not safe from getting hacked.I remember some government sites got hacked.So I do not think everybody is safe here.So regardless if we have it registered or not, it will not be a guarantee of being safe.
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@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
3 Mar 11
if we sell our gadgets there would still be transfer of ownership etc..paperworks, transfer fees.If our gadgets gets stolen..and if the person who got it is a bad person.. your name is at stake since your name is registered.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
True! The govt themselves are still susceptible to these acts, so how can we rely on them? Agree to your 2nd point too! The process can really be tedious and you can have yourself involved to these crimes too, given that most of the time our police just judge what they see and that's it.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Mar 11
I have not heard of such a system ; it wouldn’t be a bad idea although I wonder if criminals would find a way around it and still manage to steal laptops, cell phones etc. I guess it would make locating the stolen items easier...I suppose it wouldn’t hurt, any deterrent is better than none at all...
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
5 Mar 11
actually this aint really a bad idea but the drawback would be invasion of privacy.
• India
12 Mar 11
I do not think this is a good idea at all. We already have many things to register so why to add burden in life. We ca make some solid rules to acquire Laptop or Cell Phone but going through process is not done.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
13 Mar 11
true, this will only add up to the burden and expenses of the consumers.
• India
6 Mar 11
Hello staria whenever i buy things like cell phone, laptop, washing machine, i get it registerd in their website, the only advantage is sometimes they have gift offers against such purchases. I don't think criminals can be tracked, as we move on trunks they move on leaves.. Thanks for sharing Cheers. God bless you, have a nice day ahead. Professor ‘Bhuwan’. .
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
7 Mar 11
yeah criminals can work their way no matter what we do. they have a wild imagination when it comes to crime.
@alindobre (148)
• Romania
3 Mar 11
The idea behind this is that all your calls be recorded for a period of time and be used in case of a crime from your part. There is a strong argument against it though, because it violates your intimacy. It may be the same for internet traffic, although I didn't see interest in that yet. They can catch crooks, but will they even want to? Lack of privacy was a big issue during the communist regime. People were under surveilance all the time and some were just grabbed from their homes and thrown in prison without any reason, just for talking on the phone. I think this is a dangerous thing to play with and can give too much power to the government, which can quickly turn into an oppresive regime, quickly dispatching all opposers.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Yeah, privacy would be the major concern once this bill is passed. All of us wants to be secured, but the mere fact of having your calls recorded does not give you any security at all. You can also be abused in the process and things may be used against you, even if isnt at all a criminal act (e.g. blackmail etc)
@tkonlinevn (6438)
• Vietnam
5 Mar 11
I think that if you use internet much, you should register licensed soft wares for them. I'll be more safe for them.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
5 Mar 11
Yeah it could be beneficial, but the govt is proposing that we have these gadgets registered like they can access our datas and record our calls. Which is quite intimidating and might invade one's privacy.
• Philippines
10 Mar 11
In my personal opinion, this proposed method will not dd anything to prevent a crime. A person will do the crime regardless of the consequences. The registration proposal is just a ready made excuse of the government as it cannot prevent or control theft of personal belongings such as laptops, PDAs and cellphones. Everything is an affr5ont to the right of privacy - the cornerstone of out Constitution. I hope that the government isn't using these crimes as an excuse for legalized but unwanted search of people. Besides, with the government, how sure can you that your privacy is secured?
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
10 Mar 11
I have to agree, this wont alleviate the number of crimes there is. Crimes also have different faces and for as long as there are bad people around, crimes will be there. Privacy is the main concern for this campaign I believe that too, they may lay this out as an excuse to snoop around and they can use this to blackmail people as well.
@globaldoc (858)
• Philippines
8 Mar 11
In all honesty, i do not see any advantage with registering these products.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
8 Mar 11
Actually, the bill is not yet fully up and the govt has not revealed any "wonderful" plans about this yet. Though, I am quite not sure about this thing too and I find it peculiar.
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
That's a long long time ago proposal but it still in the air, You're right it will be easy to track the criminals right away, the only problem is the political will, I don't know why these lawmen cannot pass the bill of registering all the communication gadget in the Philippines, there is no political will on our good congressmen and senators. We, ordinary people, are hopeless in our own government people, we paid them (thru tax) but their plan is always a plan forever. We have a lot of proposals in our country but this is not happening because of some 'incompetent'officials in our country. Anybody in the government side to air their side?
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
That's actually true. There are a lot of good laws and ideas that are not at all being implemented by the govt. Why, because they are also afraid that their acts may be caught by these laws!
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
3 Mar 11
Hi staria, I donot think it would serve any use in police investigation because Sim card in phone is already given in your name even if it is pre paid connection and that is what matters most. Your phone is useless for you if it doesnt have a sim card. Same for laptop , you buy it and there is a bill in your name so it is basically registered with a company and also with the government because you paid taxes on it. So i donot think putting a govt, inspector on poor public is a good idea.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Hi there, actually registration of sim cards here in the PH is not yet really implemented. Most of us use prepaid sim cards here so quite hard to trace compared to post paid ones. Agree that the govt will only put on more taxes on this process and will just maximize their profits (corruption).
• Philippines
3 Mar 11
Registered or not will not change the fact that these gadgets are so portable and thus can easily be stolen. Cars are registered and a lot bigger than cellphone and laptops yet this does not prevent them from being stolen. The danger with registering phones and laptops is when they get stolen and were used for illegal or criminal activities who then will be tracked but the innocent owners. I do not think registration will and can prevent criminal minds from using these gadgets in their activities. This proposal is just another way of getting fees from the public who are already burdened with a lot of government taxes.
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Sadly, since our govt/police created a really bad image for themselves. Trust in itself is already an issue here. So this idea will generate a lot of issues apart from the registration issues.
• United States
3 Mar 11
Many of the newer devices already have lock out features (like on my desk top it has a face recognition system) and also have pagers in them. Parents are actually tracking their kids and cell phones. Apple laptops are already tracked with a iphone - there's no need to "register" it - who needs more government involvement?
@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
True! Given how bad the govt's image is in our country, who would trust them in the 1st place??
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
3 Mar 11
I don't see how licensing my cellphone and laptop would do anything to stop criminals/terrorists. It would be another fee/tax I'd have to pay, but because I don't use my laptop or cellphone often, I'd stop using them completely before I'd get them licensed. I see this as another infringement on my rights.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
IF this goes wrong, again the people would be in the losing end.
@rameshchow (4426)
• India
3 Mar 11
It is risky for the business magnets and rich people specially. Yes, we will be fine until our information is secure.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Oh yes! The businessmen can really be freaky about this idea.
• United States
3 Mar 11
I am all for safe guarding that is for sure and I would not mind registering my gadgets if it meant that later it could be tracked. But crime is on the rise and unfortunately no matter how much we try the thieves find way around it. But it certainly would be great if they could be caught, it may eliminate some from contemplating theft.
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@staria (2780)
• Philippines
4 Mar 11
Being safe is not an issue as long as our own rights are to be protected and preserved. But that would be hard to do in this process, IMO. Law enforcement should be revitalized in a way that they will be able to catch criminals even w/o such processes.