Is hidden beauty of a person more important than Beauty ?

Couldn't agree more with you...But nevertheless, I just wonder whether do girls who possess both qualities exist out there...If they do exist, it is time for me to improve myself for them...I would really one of them to be my life partner...

Livecenter: Of course they are such girls out there. You have to go through the ground and heat before you can find the diamond. Topoffer: Yes, it is possible for a girl to possess both. Remember, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, this applies to both outer and inner beauty. One man's meat is another man's poison, a girl may seem ugly to you but she is an angel in another person's eyes. I believe, the one who catches both your eyes and your heart, being loyal to you and loving you more than anyone can, is already the most beautiful girl inside out.

I hope they are, so that the efforts I put into making myself better everyday do not be wasted...

Hello louievill, Your "eye of the beholder" example is great. I think that Napoleon was thinking at the "real gorgeous women" when he was saying that they please the eye. By the way Charlotte Robespierre was not a ugly woman, but she was not a beautiful woman. This said, returning to your "eye of the beholder" the ideal woman is not the same for everybody. Everyone has failings too, and I am not sure that a perfect man or a perfect woman exists. It is the first time I read this quote of the Bible, and I will remember it. "Charm is deceitful" ? It is what I like in women, this "little thing more" you know : I have always felt in love with bright women with charm, and generally those women have an ego. Ego has not only been made for men.

what's important is physical beauty is always temporary , man or woman alike , even for handsome men like us, Ahem... ( just kidding), we are no longer as handsome than when we were 17 or in our 20's, let's look at our self in the mirror, or in older pictures, but if we are good in character and stayed as how we were taught by out parents, then that stays with us forever. Remember, most famous men and women in history are remembered because of achievements and character rather than looks.

What a great insight! I think I couldn't pass but to agree with you that physical beauty fades but the beauty of the heart last forever...Also, I have the same opinion with you about the conceit, pride and ego resulting from them beauty...It is the blessing from God, and to use them in that way is somewhat against what He has told us to do with our possession...

Hello thesids, I do not think that Napoleon Bonaparte was speaking of a ugly woman. Charlotte Robespierre was not ugly, but she was not a top model : she was an ordinary woman. There is a painting of her made approximately at the time she met Bonaparte : http://monpayslahauteprovence.blog50.com/media/01/01/1102536600.jpg A really ugly woman will certainly experience difficulties to make a man perceiving the beauty of her heart. We are like that, though, like louievill said above, beauty in in "the eye of the beholder" and a ugly woman for you and me can be beautiful for another man. The example is perfectly correct, like usual. @livecenter: "we should not tell a book by its cover". In French we say that "clothes are not enough to make a monk"... You are speaking in theory, and I am ready to test your theories summed in equations in your box. If a beautiful girl has the same chances to have a heart of gold than a ugly one, we will share the investigations : I will be friend with the beautiful one and will get to know her better, and you will investigate the heart of the ugly one. Is this a correct deal for you?

I agree with you in this case ...It is hard to tell whether an ugly-looking girl is good on the inside or not...That is why we should not tell a book by its cover...Get to know a girl herself, and that is how you know whether you struck gold or not...

@topffer: Haha! That is not even fair! Why not both of us try both of them and see?

Hello hardworkinggurl, "Hidden beauties" is a personal interpretation, and I have probably made a mistake -- I realized this with the response of Mrs Hatley --, though "treasure" implies "hidden". I should have been more careful in my title. I wanted first to share this small discovery about the recipient of these words -- I do not work on this period, so I can have miss something --. If Beauty is obvious, you have to know a person to recognize a "good nature" : this quote is not so bad, but every opinion is welcome. Speaking of beauty I am afraid I have nothing to divulge and I do not show my picture because I do not want to be banned, but I am old enough to read between the lines and discover by myself who has a good nature or not. I have to choose the colors of my kilt to pay my forfeit for a package entry. Have you a preferred clan ?

I am like you also, where I like to read between the lines and it gives me a sense of what the person is like. I enjoy and prefer all good nature, kind can caring clans.

Hello jhaidro, I think also that the comparison made by Napoleon between a gem for the eyes, and a treasure for the heart is good. I like also your comparison/translation between a beautiful face and a beautiful soul. Beauty is something to consider, but not enough to be in love with someone. It is what we have in common inwards that is important. I completely agree with you. @livecenter: have not you noticed yet that often the most beautiful women are married with ugly men ? Maybe these men also have an inner beauty ?

I have always noticed that, most often in the entertainment industry...I am afraid that may not be the case...Some of the stars marry the ugly men with money, and I believe it is the real case why they did so...No offense, but I can't see any of inner beauty in men...What I can see is that men have 'money beauty'

I have always have the idea that beautiful faces are not necessarily mean beautiful attitude and behavior...What lucky charm a man has to marry a girl with both qualities...And indeed, it is always good to look at a beautiful face every day, but what is more important is to have your wife behaves nicely with you everyday...

Livecenter, Oldsix is one of those men : he has started some discussions where he is speaking of his wife : they are a good couple and he is proud of his wife. I can understand this if she is like he describes her : he met a "rare pearl" and everybody is not so lucky than him. We are jealous, Oldsix... and possibly your coworkers also.

You must be one of those men God chose to be blessed to be given a wife like that...Earn that, and make sure you take good care of your wife...Else, you will waste one of the most precious gift God has ever give to His servant...

That's really true.One of my workmates was overdrunk after learning about that I was in love with her!

Men also prefer women who are not spending hours to get ready to go out and generally do not care about the choice of the clothes and jewelry. Some people today -- not only women -- are above all concerned by their appearances. I do not think they realize that they cannot have true friends if their heart is hard... or empty. They fail in life but they need some other failure to understand it and maybe change.

Hello agrim, You are summarizing very well the thoughts of a majority of responders in this discussion. Everyone prefers a treasure to a gem, but treasures are more difficult to find. It is sad that many girls are making a complex because they think they are not beautiful. Many responders are saying that beauty is in the "eye of the beholder", so they have have just to show themselves like they are and wait for the right beholder.

I made a mistake in the title as the quote does not imply that the beauty of heart is always hidden. You cannot appreciate them if you do not know well a person, while a beautiful person is immediately perceived as beautiful -- "a beauty for the eye" --. "I think a lot of 'attractive' people tend to become really competitive so they can prove that they have more than their beauty" Also my thoughts. In a box above Vandana says that beautiful women are more listened than others : you do not only listen someone because he is handsome, beautiful, but because he deserves to be listened. A beautiful and clever blond tends to show that she is not only a blond. Attractive people often tends to exteriorize more than others.

Hiya tops, Well when the walls start to fall around them they might some of them might realize that but not all of them will realize it because they don´t want to see it or cannot see themselves as they really are. Don´t get me wrong I´m not trying to knock good looking People on the contrary I am getting a point across here about a few People in general that think nothing else of vanity, that looking good is the only thing there is in life. They are to be pitied because when their good years have gone past for them who will they have around them to love them as they really are and not looking like something out of a Magazine every Day. I would want to love them and tell them and show them that there is much more than beauty that is only skin deep after all. I see Women on the Television trying to look much younger but in quite a terrible way because they wear and do things that do not suit them at all. They want to hide behind that Wall they have built and won´t come out of it. The opposite side of the Coin is that I see ordinary Women like me in the audiences on the Television that are accepting who and what they are and they have very distinct characters to the others they are much more loving, gregarious able to reach out to the World being as they are really nice People. My Husbands Aunt told me in January I have stopped dyeing my Hair and now it´s white now I look like my other Aunt who´s hair is white and now we both match. We don´t have to outdo each other in colour of the Hair or anything. She´s right you know. These are the People who live in a Village not far from here in Funes they are extraordinary People they have more inner beauty than a lot I know of. Hard to explain but they do make me smile a lot.

"That is when the walls of their World start to topple and fall over and they realize that being good looking was not such a great thing after all." I agree completely with you. Some people are only investing in appearances, and it is rarely a good investment. We need to know a person to discover inner qualities, they are more often hidden than reflected. You wrote again a great response loinangelsinstead !

Hello emine, There is no perfect man too. I summed up too quickly and made a mistake : heart qualities are not always hidden, and you can develop them, but I would not take the risk to marry a beautiful woman with no heart, and to try to develop her inner beauty. You need a ticket and to take the queue to find a heartful and beautiful one, and I did not got one : they are all married with beautiful children, like you, emine.

I cannot believe it when I read you : do you think that love is something that you can sum up in a logical equation ? You can say whatever you want with logic : No woman is in plastic ; Yet some plastic items are blow up dolls ; So a few blow up dolls are not women.

Who's doing plastic.. Mr. Wit? I would love to peel those plasters of his face to see what's underneath. I am a woman and I agree with Mr. Wit here: beautiful face + ugly heart....more men in line... beautiful heart + ugly face....less men in line... Since I am not a beauty, I am trying hard to stay sexy...

beautiful face + ugly heart = no good beautiful heart + ugly face = considerable beautiful face + beautiful heart = perfect wife-to-be

The exterior beauty will go, but the inner beauty will stay, and you will keep memories. There are some beautiful 16th poems from Ronsard about this. You will find some translated in English on this page : http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Pierre_Ronsard/index.htm I like particularly "Of his lady's old age" : "When you are very old, at evening You'll sit and spin beside the fire, and say, Humming my songs, 'Ah well, ah well-a-day! When I was young, of me did Ronsard sing.'" The end of this poem is : "Ah, love me, love! we may be happy yet, And gather roses, while 'tis called to-day." It is a hedonistic philosophy. Ronsard was not an angel. Welcome to myLot, viplsr. I hope you will enjoy this site.

I feel that all women regardless of how they look should always outwardly express beauty and since beauty here is being defined as good then why hide it. topferr, I love the poem.

Hello Mrs Hatley, I was bothered by an apparent duality in the quote between Beauty and beauty of heart that I translated by "hidden beauty", but I realize that I went too far here, as, like you say, "hidden beauty" is not always hidden. There is an interesting phenomenon, born in your country but coming in Europe now, it is that everyone -- or many -- wants to be gorgeous outside : with plastic surgery, many things are possible today. I find worrying this culture of "appearances for appearances" ; what you say is not reassuring. And I have never found you grouchy !

Hello mermaidivy, I think that people have always judge others on their appearances since the world is civilized. What is new today is that some -- more and more -- people are trying to change their physical appearance. With plastic surgery and money, everyone can be beautiful outside, but there is no surgery available for inner beauty : it is not fake and then more precious.

Hello vandana, There are many conflicts at work and probably more between women than between men. A beautiful and clever woman is often a subject of envy showed by nasty remarks and gossips. I am not sure it is enough to spoil the heart of this woman, but certainly enough to spoil her life, and sometimes to become hard-hearted : a normal "defense reaction" ?

This quote has been made in 1794, and God was not welcome in France at this time, but as men need God -- at least you, me and some others : I was forgetting atheists -- he was replaced by a Republican "Supreme being" by Maximilien Robespierre, a brother of Charlotte who wrote this text. It did not last ten years but it is an interesting subject. There is an article in English Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being So a purist would say that your quote is an anachronism. I will made another one, and will say that I find you a bit jesuitical here, in your clever way to elude the discussion with this third proposition. But in reality you make things more difficult for us : until now in this discussion we wanted to see beauty inside and outside a perfect woman, and you are adding something else : she has to be a religious person. Like louievill said above, the beauty is in the "eye of the beholder", and what is for you an essential quality is certainly not essential for an atheist, so I am not sure that this quote needs something more. What do you think ? "...man is just too impatient or too callous to notice when the right one comes along." It is so true ! We can be our own source of unhappiness and waste our life... and the life of our woman/husband. I cannot resist to finish this comment here with this well known quote of Oscar Wilde : "Experience is the name we give to our past mistakes".