wow! atlast I know, Christian also Extremely Love Jesus, aren't they???

Wouldn't it be more Christlike to offer this man support in his journey of life. He reached an understanding within himself and for that he is made to feel less than worhty. I do not understand Christians, while I may agree with some of the sentiments expressed here about the religion, it is obvious to me that this man was not attacking Christianity or Christians. OR for that matter, Jews. God is love, and if you do not love your brother whom you can see, how can you claim to love God whom you cannot see? This man is an individual loved by God.

and if it is wrong for him to want to 'convert' others through conversation, the same could be said of any religious discussion.

I agree with everything you've stated here.A healthy and respectful dialog of different religious faiths is always needed and appreciated My whole objection to this discussion was the thread starter declaring he went on a Christian chat site, attempting to "convert" Christians to his Muslim faith. i'm not only offended by this but, have little tolerance for anyone who feels their religious ideology is somewhat superior to my own, or anyone else's for that matter.This is not Godlike nor does it induce any positive feelings of friendship, kindness or spirituality. And though it's mostly a futile attempt to try and convert Christians and other beliefs to any other religion,the attempt by Muslims to do this is done far too often and i find this highly objectionable.

Thanks Graptopetalum. I must say though that the reason I didn't mention the Trinity is because there is a debate/argument about that among Christians which I won't go into since I admit, I don't understand the arguments nor desire to partake in them.

I think I should clarify this a bit. We (Christians) believe in one God who exists as three persons: God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit. Like Muslims we believe that Jesus was born to a virgin and is the promised Jewish Messiah as well as being the son and incarnation of God and the rightful king of the Jews. The Bible also warns us that many false prophets will come and we believe that Mohammad was one of them, probably the most dangerous to date.

Like I said before you can beleive what you want to believe but you still cannot explain why millions of muslims see Muhammad as otherwise as you see him. I learn to apply logic when accepting Islam's text as in the Quran so my logic is to follow what that the majority sees is right. Unlike you who chose to follow the minority who condemn Islam. You are stating what you deem as wrong over and over and I do not want towaste my time on you explaining again and again. Go back to your KKK convention wont you

BTW Jesus is a much respected individual in the Quran.

You say "other religions are here for a purpose" Could you explain just what you meant by that statement?

Preaching is not a Bad Thing, if you do it with love & peace, I never Insult any Religion, But asks peoples are they Accept There is one God, some laugh at me, some chat with me & try to convincing me to their religion, I Don't think thats a bad thing.

No, preaching is not a bad thing, but when you preach to others requesting they change their religion , that is just plain wrong and that is exactly what Tushavi mentioned in the very first line of his discussion. I am a Christian myself, so, i do know God asks us to preach "His" word, but he does not ask us to try and change anyones religion by preaching it is the only true one, wish he makes very clear he believes the Muslim faith is. Also, he seems surprised to learn that Christians worship Jesus, which means to me that at one time or another, he actually believed the hype and lies that we are somehow an inferior religion , which is so untrue.

jujunme, I do not think preaching bad in my bible the christian bible God tells you to preach is words. No matter what religion you are. I do not think he was disrespectful and no one that truly preaches God' Word in a peaceful and nice way. I am a Christian and I would never change my religion however always opened to hear anothers point of view.

Can you elaborate on that? I've read both the Bible and the Koran (and a lot of other things) so I think I know what I'm talking about here. I'm also married to a Roman Catholic (although she's rather lapsed and now belongs to a Messianic Synagogue).

You say that all Muslims are bad. How do you define "bad"? As a Catholic you must have heard that all humans are sinners, except Jesus. Therefore all Muslims are sinners. If Islam is of Satan and inherently evil and Christianity is the true way to God, then all Muslims are inherently wrong and evil, because they are trying to follow an evil religion.

Learn to read! You are being an idiot here. Seriously!

Life is too short to be filled with hatred. We should just agree to disagree. Every body has a right to their opinion and the only thing in the Universe that is within your power to change is you. Don't try to change others.

dragon54u, has it occured to you that Muslims you speak to may not be entirely honest with you about what they believe. Try asking them if they think Israel should be allowed to exist or if a man should be allowed to marry six year old. So you believe in "live and let live". Is there any line somebody could cross that would cause you to take a strong stand against them? I strongly suspect there's been a conspiracy in the west to undermine Christianity. Why else do people often criticise Christianity for something and then turn round and say nice things about Islam, although it's worse by the criteria they just used against Christianity? Why is it acceptable to criticise Christianity but not acceptable to criticize Islam? UmiNoor, you don't think we should try to change others? Don't you want to convert others to Islam? Do you think Israel has a right to exist? Do you think it's right for a man to marry a six year old?

Graptopetalum, I can only judge people's intent by what they tell me and their actions. The people I spoke to were good people and lived their lives according to their holy book which endorses a lot of what my own Bible does--decency, honesty, hard work and family values. No, I would not ask them that because I did not know them well enough. I would probably be insulting them by casting doubt on their character as well as their religion. Asking something like that on first or second meeting is a good way to alienate people. Yes, I do think there is a movement to stamp out Christianity. The Bible has warned us of that. And as for criticizing Christians but endorses other religions no matter what they do, that's part of it. Be the best you can and endure.

I think that is what is called Islamophobia which is spreading fast around the world. The terrorists are just a minority. If you believe that all Muslims are terrorists and that is like between 1.3 to 1.8 billion people in the world which is like close to 1/3rd of the people on earth which means that one in three people in the world is a Muslim. And if you believe that Muslims want to kill and murder non-Muslims then the world would now be filled with only Muslims.

I'm really fed up with people trying to discredit objections to Islam as "Islamophobia". I mostly object to Islam because I've read the Koran and found it logically problematic, morally abhorent (including promoting hatred and violence against non-Muslims) and totally unconvincing as a revelation from God!

Graptopetalum...if you think you're winning points with God, think it through one more time after re reading the book of JOHN in the NEW TESTAMENT.

I think "extremist" is a bit of a vague term. Today's "extremist" may be tomorrow's "orthodox". You could argue that Ishmaeli Muslims are "extremist" although they're very peaceful. A Christian hermit who lives by hunting animals and eating wild plants and never hurts anybody is an extremist. I've never killed or seriously hurt anybody (not physically anyway) and I don't intend to but I believe Jesus (who I prefer to call Yeshua) is the Messiah, son and incarnation of God, go to a Messianic Synagogue on Saturday and try to eat kosha, does that make me an extremist? I think an extremist can be a nut job or a heretic or a fundamentalist. They may be pacifists or terrorists or believe violence is acceptable in extreme circumstances but have strange views. I think many extremists have thought a lot about what they believe and taken things to their logical conclusion. Perhaps their logic was questionable or they were basing their reasoning on a misstranslation of scripture or something. The people who don't think things through are the moderates or nonminals so they largely do what's conventional or convenient.