What to do when I am being "negatively" rated?
By dollar3235
@dollar3235 (2062)
India
March 19, 2011 1:36pm CST
Hello friends,
I have come across so many heated discussions here on mylot. I always try to stay away from discussions where others may feel bad about my comment and there is no way, I can say something to anyone that will hurt him/her, because I don't know anyone personally.
I never intend to hurt people in my life and I don't have a motive here on mylot for saying anything negative.
If I say something wrong, others have got the option to tell me that I am wrong and I think that is called discussion.
In last one week my rating has changed from 87 to 78 and I don't see a reason for this.
I'm not exactly worried about the numbers but the fact that someone is unhappy with my comments in some discussion does bother me.
[b]
Why there are a few people here on mylot instead of explaining their own point of view use the negative button?
What type of help do I expect from mylot admin if someone is negging my comments purposefully?
What are the options for me in this situation? [/b]
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11 responses
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
19 Mar 11
I don't know what can be done about this. MyLot are inordinately proud of their rating system and constantly say that it is designed to deal with people abusing it.
I have long ago come to the conclusion that it is virtually valueless and fatally flawed. I already know what kind of quality and value I and others try to give to the site and I almost completely disregard my 'rating' and that of others.
The 'options' for you are probably:
(1) To read what the FAQs have to say about 'MyLot Reputation' http://www.mylot.com/o/faq/faq11.aspx
(2) to contact MyLot using the contact link (scroll to the bottom and select 'Other'). There is no way for us to know who is 'negging' us but Admin CAN see and will, hopefully, take action if it appears that someone is misusing the system.
I have already suggested that GAA look at this discussion. Perhaps 'Alex' will give you (and others who have complained about this in the past) a more satisfactory answer.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
19 Mar 11
@ Lamb and Diana: I wonder if they simply can't (or daren't) fiddle with the figures that the algorithm generates. I do know that both the earnings algorithm and the ratings/quality algorithm are quite fearsomely complicated (and may well have been put together by a team which no longer exists). Having worked in the computer industry, I know that you don't call in the programmers to meddle with things that are working well on the whole - barring a few glitches - unless you can spare the resources and feel that it's a very high-priority issue. Since earnings are clearly the most important thing and that does seem to work fairly, playing with the other algorithm (which is stated to be connected with the earnings one) could easily cause more trouble than it's worth.
My reaction/solution to this has, for a long while, been to ignore the vagaries of 'ratings' as they affect my star or position in any interest category. I just feel that they don't represent anything much that relates to reality except in a very broad sense.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
19 Mar 11
I had an exchange in PMs with GAA a few weeks ago where I pointed out some obvious things that are happening. He saw the problem and said he would pass it on to those above.
I have no reason to doubt thst he did his part but 'those above' just seem disinterested
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Mar 11
Thanks for replying, owlwings and mysdianait.
owlwings, I've been noticing how your and a few others ratings are fluctuating, I was wondering why it is happening to you but now I understand it.
From last 3-4 months, I was ignoring so many discussions where I felt the person who had initiated the discussion will not like my comment.
I don't really care about the rating or any number but I do want to know the reason why was I rated negatively and how can I improve myself, if mylot wants to grow they will have to correct these flaws in their system.
GAA should try to help the users who are active here on mylot.
"mysdianait", could you please inform the admin that if they are not taking any action against this thing, I am sure, this website will see boring and meaningless discussions where people will say "Yes" to everything to make sure that others will not neg them.
Please add the following lines on my behalf to GAA in your PM:
"I use mylot as an alternative of Facebook/Orkut, if all these things are happening here, how long will it take me to get an account in Facebook/Orkut?"
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@jujunme (2501)
• United States
19 Mar 11
I don't know about anyone else, but, in my opinion for your rating to drop that drastically (from an 87 to a 78 in one week) it sounds to be as if you're being stalked by someone or a few people here who are definitely misusing the rating system since, from what i've learned ratings do fluctuate at times maybe by 1 or 2 points and this is normal and not necessarily someone intentionally neg rating you.
i would definitely notify the admin about this and i do hope they address this problem as it's been getting out of hand and for far too long.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Mar 11
dollar what I sometimes do is say I am going to agree to disagree with you but I am saying I do respect your viewpoint, and again this is just my own opinion so please respcect it as I respect yours.it seems to p;lacate people when I have a different view point. I never try to change the other person's view, I just give mine and sometimes state whry and let them know I do respect their view point too.I have never had another bvout of my ratings dropping down like that again. A few points flucuation is normal but not a drop like you have had.I am plusing you here and all the other responders too. really you are supposed to voice your own opinion and we are supposed to be respectful adults and honor your opinion as your own.
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@jujunme (2501)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Believe me, you are not alone in your feelings. My rating dropped 2 points overnight and i was very upset about this, even though i will express my opinion to those i may disagree with, like you i do not insult or ridicule anyone and am very respectful in my replies to any discussion i've started.
So i can just imagine how upsetting this must be for you, having your rating drop by so much and it is a very helpless feeling since we as members can't do anything about it.The only thing i can do right now is rate your discussion (+) and hope it helps a little in getting your rating up where it should be.i'm sure other members here will do that as well.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Mar 11
Thanks for replying, jujunme.
If my rating is decreasing, I will try to improve the way I put across my words.
When I joined mylot, I had a 7 rating, it has fluctuated from 7 to 8 so many times and I agree that I might have made some mistakes, however, in this case, I would certainly say that it's not my fault that will cause my rating to decrease 7 points in one day .
I don't bother about the rating but yes I do feel helpless when I see that someone is targeting me here...
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
20 Mar 11
Hello Dollar,
Unfortunately, Just like what lamby said, it's been like that for years before they were even people that can say foul words during the absence of the admin. except recent times. when the people of mylot chose to report the same thing over and over again, the admin decided to put a limiter on the rating system. but unfortunately, one problem that needed to be address is the ONE Owner per account thing. because there are situations where tend to have multiple account holders, it's hard to determine who they are. and as long as such exist, we would never know who is a "traitor" in this sitepretending to be good.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
Hi LetranKnight25,
After discussing on this topic for one day, I feel like, it's because of our irresponsibility, if I ask myself, how many times I rate a good comment as +, I won't get a good answer from myself.
I used to feel glad by giving a "+" to all the comments in my discussion, however, now I feel that it is not sufficient, everyone should get what they deserve, I mean, if a comment is not bad, it deserves a "+" because it takes time and efforts from someone to type those words.
At the same time, there are a few childish people here on mylot, who either don't understand the language properly or may be, are very inferior therefore, to overcome their frustration on other mylotters who are genuinely expressing their own opinion, it is a must for us rate all the good comments as "+" and with such an experience (13 points in less than 7 days), I am sure that I won't forget it.
@ally12 (1202)
• Philippines
20 Mar 11
Why there are a few people here on mylot instead of explaining their own point of view use the negative button?
Those are people which has no capability to defend their views so they found a great power in the negative button to have an edge. those are not challenging people.
I had responses also that made me irritated but i dont find it enjoyable to let that negative button be used as a weapon against them. I rather insist for what I believe and made them agree with me than to let that negative button make them a winner and me as a bitter discussion losser.
You cant control people here of which they can and they cant do to other mylotters here. As I see Mylot reputation are now 226,588, meaning hundred thousand plus of people here from different cultures and races, with different views and beliefs and attitude so better dont mind them just show what youve got and I think Mylot admins has an open eyes on their every members performances.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
ally12, I 100% agree with you.
Yesterday, I was really angry and felt like kicking the one who is doing this to my profile. However, later on after reading all the comments, I am feeling much better now.
I've concluded that mylot admin is not going to do anything in this regard and that is why he has not even bothered to add a comment to this discussion. For him this website is business and it is just another discussion.
Senior members have already discussed on this issue with the mylot admin and they've found that nothing can be done for this.
Now we have two options, keep suffering due to the presence of a few mentally retard people or be responsible and rate the genuine and good quality comments with a +.
I've decided to correct myself and I will certainly use more and more + button for good comments and this way it will help others who are like me to deal with these mental people.
All I can say here is, I would try my best to be the part of the solution. Hopefully others will also understand it and come up with their own ideas to add more values to this place rather than being victimized by a few mental people.
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@hardworkinggurl (37063)
• United States
20 Mar 11
Oh my and welcome to the disappointed club. *sad* This has been an ongoing issue and you are not alone. There is not a negative word in any of my reponses and yet my ratings drop daily. I am a 10 - 98/100 for a day and then I begins to drop on a daily basis. It is nothing we are or can do to change what is happening here. I understand admin is/will look into things but in the interim we are affected constantly. I am sorry you to have been plagued with what is evident of abuse. I truly believe that some do positive rate us because if not then we could actually be a 1 overnight. I know this because I can be 92/100 in a day and in a few hours I can go up to 93/100. All in one day! But apparently not enough of them to keep us steady from the plague. *sad*
I am very active on myLot with so much positivity but that friend has comes with a price for me because apparently progress is not on the agenda of whomever(s) is doing this. I have spoke to admin and to date nothing has or perhaps can be done. In the interim it continues to happen to so many of us.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
Yes, I was disappointed when I first noticed the decrease in my rating (within last 7 days it has decreased from 87 to 74, 4 points from yesterday ). But after getting comments from senior members like you, I am really happy.
I have read all the comments in this discussion and now I know that this issue has already been raised to the admin and he was unable to do anything.
I would say, okay fine!!
If they can't do anything, I will do it myself. Though, I can't do it for my profile (I don't care about it), if I note down 5-10 friends in my friend list every week and make sure that they get a + for their "good quality" comments, it will certainly help the system and others who are like me.
I know, alone I can't deal with all these mentally retard people who can see only (-) button but I am sure my efforts will give me satisfaction.
Thank you for taking time and adding your comment!
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@DoctorDidi (7018)
• India
19 Mar 11
How did you come to know that you are negatively rated? Is there any way to recognise the rating? I have no idea of it, would you please help me?
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Mar 11
Hello DoctorDidi,
Thank you for your response.
If you move the mouse pointer and hover it on the star that is listed just before your user name in any discussion, you will see the rating number as a tool tip. For me now it is showing 78 , color of the star will change if the rating decreases less than 75 and it will increase if it increases above 85, similarly it changes for other 10 digits from 0-10 (e.g. 15-25, 25-35, 35-45 etc.).
For me it changed from 86 to 80 in one day and now it is still decreasing when I have not used mylot for a last few days, I am really wondering who could be the person so much interested in my profile.
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@madp_071983 (228)
• Oman
20 Mar 11
Very simple. Think positive and be optimistic in life. Take those negatives as challenges and stepping stones to success NOT stumbling blocks to defeat. Create in you a personal conviction that would continue to bring out the best in you despite the negative ratings you receive. Believe in your self and never stop achieving greater heights. No one else knows better than you except YOU! Remember, there is always an end in everything. If persistence is considered, then soon those negative ratings will eventually turn out to be positive. You just have to wait for your time and of course striving while waiting. One more thing, we are really living in a world of uncertainties and discontent. You can never ever please everyone. Another is, each individual is crafted uniquely different from the other and no two individuals are the same or equal neither twins! So keep the ball rolling, DD!
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@shaggin (72289)
• United States
20 Mar 11
I dont remember seeing you around on mylot so I cant say for sure if I have ever given you a negative or not. On all the responses on this discussion I left a positive for everyone though! There isnt anything you can do about people giving you negative ratings. Just make sure not to argue and try to write at least 3 lines of comment or discussion and make sure the comment corresponds to what the discussion is about. Some people are really rude and just because they dont like what someone says they will give them a negative and thats wrong. We arent supposed to give negatives to people with bad spelling or who arent that fluent in english but I see a lot of those people who have low scores and its sad.
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@shaggin (72289)
• United States
20 Mar 11
LOL how funny you are apologizing to me for not disturbing me on here. I love mylot if you comment on my discussions or I come across yours I dont consider that disturbing each other because thats what we are here for. Well hopefully all the positives I've given to you on this discussion and the comments you left on your discussion will help counteract at least one person who is rating you negatively. I dont know why people have to be mean like that. The lower your ranking score the less money you earn.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
Hi shaggin,
I am sorry for not disturbing you here on mylot. If you read all the comments here, you will feel that I am really very very good in disturbing people here. That's why someone is negging my comments.
Someone is loving me so much here that they are following my comments and fortunately they are negging my comments otherwise, I would have got more than 100 by now. (87-74 = 13; 87+13 =100)
I always add a comment to any discussion only if I am interested, so in most of the cases, my comments are more than 3 lines.
Thank you for taking time in adding your comment!
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
You know what, when I initiated this discussion, I was very angry and I was feeling helpless.
Now after discussing on this topic for one day, I feel much relaxed and I've also realized that it has been some time since I've not discussed on any topic other than some serious science fiction, computer issues etc.
When I joined mylot it was all about fun and now I've just realized that the fun was missing from last a few months.
Today, I really enjoyed discussing on this topic, I've got a few more friends and everyone has their own idea to improve this place, which is good for us.
Now I do understand that giving "+" to a good comment is my responsibility and I should be doing it on priority.
@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
ebuscat, to be honest, I don't believe or care about this rating and the star, there are n number of 'real' things in my life that I have to take care of, however, I initiated the discussion to show this flaw in the mylot system to everyone else here who have or will experience(d) this problem and also to the mylot admin who 'can' do something for this issue.
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@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
20 Mar 11
You don't have to worry about people rating you negatively. As myLot's rating system says, users that rate responses that really has a point, the one who rated that user will get the negative instead.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
That's something new for me, lets hope that something like this exists here on mylot.
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@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
20 Mar 11
Well, this link (http://www.mylot.com/o/faq/faq17.aspx) says that exists but I'm not really sure.
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@madp_071983 (228)
• Oman
20 Mar 11
Very simple. Try considering the following points:
1. Think positive and be optimistic in life. Take those negatives as challenges and stepping stones to success NOT stumbling blocks to defeat;
2. Create in you a personal conviction that would continue to bring out the best in you despite the negative ratings you receive;
3. Believe in yourself and never stop achieving greater heights. No one else knows better than you except YOU! Remember, there is always an end to everything. If persistence is considered, then soon those negative ratings will eventually turn out to be positive. You just have to wait for your time and of course, strive while waiting;
4. We are really living in a world where competition is very apparent in almost all aspects of life. A world mixed with uncertainties, dissatisfaction, and discontentment! You can never ever please everyone; and
5. Finally, each individual is crafted uniquely different from the other and no two individuals are the same or equal neither twins! So keep the ball rolling, dollar3235!
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
20 Mar 11
madp_071983, as far as this rating system and my rating is concerned, I am really not bothered about these things, however, I do want good people to be here on mylot so that we can maintain better understanding while discussing any topic.
In my case, I won't mind even if it goes down to 0, I will be here and as usual commenting in all the discussions of my interest but I am sure there are so many good people who will feel bad if it happens to them and they might leave the website, therefore, I felt like I should raise this concern and see if mylot management can do something regarding this issue.
Your suggestions are very good and encouraging, I will certainly try to remember these things while dealing with real problems of my life.
Thanks for taking time and adding your comment to this discussion.
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@soapies1973 (931)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Don't feel bad look at my star. At one point I had a one. I have never had a negative word for anyone. Take care.
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@dollar3235 (2062)
• India
19 Mar 11
soapies1973, you know what, I am really pissed off...
Why in the world someone is doing this kind of BS, I feel bad about your rating, sometimes, I wonder why someone has less than 60 rating here on mylot, no one does anything so bad that they will get less than 60 rating, it all depends on what kind of people you interact with here on mylot, it seems that there are a few useless people who are following you and as a result of that, you've got this rating.
The worst thing is, we can't do anything about it. Let's see if mylot admin will take any action against it.
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