The great "communicator"
By laglen
@laglen (19759)
United States
March 22, 2011 9:09am CST
Plenty in Congress are complaining that Obama following the Un on the Libyan "no fly zone" was beyond his authority. That he should have consulted congress.
A hard-core group of liberal House Democrats is questioning the constitutionality of U.S. missile strikes against Libya, with one lawmaker raising the prospect of impeachment during a Democratic Caucus conference call on Saturday.
Reps. Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.), Donna Edwards (Md.), Mike Capuano (Mass.), Dennis Kucinich (Ohio), Maxine Waters (Calif.), Rob Andrews (N.J.), Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas), Barbara Lee (Calif.) and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.) "all strongly raised objections to the constitutionality of the president's actions"
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/libya/2011/03/20/house-democrats-freak-out-after-obama-takes-military-action-libya#ixzz1HKyRBs9K
In response, the White house claims that Congress was consulted. Maybe it was a slow day in Washington and nobody attended that day?
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/03/21/white-house-says-theres-plenty-congressional-communication-libya
If they all were consulted and briefed, then whats the problem? Why are Obama's own democrats whining?
3 responses
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
4 Apr 11
He has no right to sign or do anything in the office of president; he is a criminal illegal alien, foreign and domestic enemy in this country.
Why would anyone continue to even take up a polemic re anything he does "as president"?
We will be overcome by his corruption and evil unless someone takes action and discharges their duty under the Constitution, yet our Congress and courts and media remain cowards, strangely silent in face of truth and justice.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Apr 11
He signed a presiential finding that allowed him to send in special ops two (maybe three) weeks before the actual bombing began. A CIA linked aircraft was spoted flying out of the country before the action started. Not only THAT but al-Queda has got ahold of some of Lybia's surface to air missles during the uprising.
http://politicsreport.com/news/obama-signs-finding-libya
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2011/03/al-qaeda-gets-libyan-missiles.html
http://current.com/news/93102343_cia-linked-extraordinary-rendition-plane-landed-in-libya-while-un-approved-libya-incursion.htm
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
3 Apr 11
The cost is over 600 million already. And just who is behind the rebels? al qaeda having surfact to air missles, can we deal with that? Did they have the rebels help in getting them?
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
22 Mar 11
If this was the right thing to do, then Obama should have known that three weeks ago. That would have given him lots of time to consult Congress, explain his reasons, let us know why this is in the best interests of the country, get Congressional authority to spend the money and still go to the UN Security Council. Maybe it wouldn't have happened until just now, or maybe it would have all been done sooner, with less loss of civilian life. If the long indecision made this one of those situations where now Obama had to act quickly without getting the necessary authorizations, then it was the long period of indecision that was wrong - even if Obama is right to act. Even if he had the right to act.
The biggest problem with Obama defending his actions as Constitutional is that his own words belie his defense:
The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.
– Barack Obama, December 20, 2007
If Obama, the Constitutional scholar, is going to defend his actions under the scrutiny of his own interpretation of the President's Constitutional authority, he's going to have to show us the "actual or imminent threat" to our nation.
Whether you agree with the decision to join the coalition and the attacks on Libya, Obama owes us an explanation - either he's changed his mind on the Constitutional powers of the president or he needs to tell us what the threat is.
He met with Congressional leaders 90 minutes before announcing his intentions. The UN approved this but Congress did not take a vote on it. If he doesn't start talking soon, he gives the impression that he is taking orders from the UN and has given them the power to declare which wars the US must be involved in.
His own party turning on him in this has a lot to do with his Lone Ranger decision-making. Not to mention the fact that it hurts the "it's Bush's fault" excuse if he never stops doing what Bush did and keeps copying Bush's speeches.
He's probably okay legally IF he does the right thing now to correct the errors he has made thus far. The majority of the public supports this action in Libya. But as we know, everyone is for freedom and justice if the fight is short and successful. If he doesn't clearly state the objective and then wrap it up as quickly as possible, the public will sour on this every bit as much as they have on every other military action since WWII.
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@hofferp (4734)
• United States
23 Mar 11
I was going to reply, but Rollo said it better than I could. I have mixed emotions about sending our men/women and spending money we don't have on Libya. Yes, Gaddfi is a criminal, but look around the continent, look around the middle east, Asia, South America... When do we stop being the policeman of the world? Let's hope this operation is over quick and Gaddfi is gone permanently. And something worse doesn't replace him. Now, if the Administration briefed Congress then those who missed the briefing need to shut up. If Congress wasn't briefed, then the Administration screwed up. Last I checked we don't get our marching orders from the U.N.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
24 Mar 11
I agree and I do believe the briefing was not all of congress -
Those being briefed:
Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.
Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md.
Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.
Sen. Dyck Lugar, R-Ind.
Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.
Rep. Mike Rogers, D-Mich.
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Md.
Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio
Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.
Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D- Calif.
Sen. Dyck Durbin, D-Ill.
Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
Sen. John Kyl, R-Ariz.
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
Rep. Buck McKeon, R-Calif.
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.
Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/03/obama-meets-with-members-of-congress-on-libya/1