I am THINKing, I'm Just Being Anxious. :(
By Daddy Neil
@neildc (17239)
Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
March 23, 2011 11:10pm CST
Hiya myLotters!
Fully recovered and no more signs of apnea...
Hyperactive...
A menace not only to playmates but even to his parents...
Mischeavous...
That is how I can describe Zayzay. So you better watch out if you are with him.
We are through with sleep apnea. And now, we continue to believe that he is another case of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). We better learn something more about this so I keep searching and reading.
Now I wish you could help me figure out if I should believe he has ADHD.
Or I should really stop thinking and reading because someone said, it only makes me more "anxious"?
And one said, I am the one who should need the neuro test and not Zayzay?
~~ NEIL™~~
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
i had it 3 or 4 years ago.
been to a doctor and gave me that medicine.
it was already gone for i guess two years.
it came back two days ago.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
hiya sweetie.
you really think i am just anxious?
cause lately, i have been attacked again.
just two days ago.
ok, i'll leave him be.
i know he is that healthy.
and thank goodness for he is.
i really don't want another doctor for him, sweetie.
and if i can send him there immediately,
i would do it right away.
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@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
hello neildc,
Do you think i have an ADHD too? i cannot blame you for having worries about lil Zay but most of the children at his age is really hyperactive you can consult a doctor i think having ADHD is not serious like Sleep Apnea we just pray that it's nothing serious i did not say ignore the idea but don't be anxious it will not help you.
I think i want to agree that you must have a neuro test , Zay is a strong one he can surpass this through relax don't be hard to yourself.
have a nice day
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
hi honey. i could not say, but mommy jane told me how hyperactive you are. she's also the one who told me to have the neuro test and not zay. and now, you seconded the motion?
i could not agree about the seriousness of the two problems. the reason for this, ADHD and Sleep Apnea both has impact in the development of reaching their potentials. could have one child has none of the two, he could reach more, he could be better or at his best.
the effect could not be today but in the future.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
see...we're on the same boat.
i never told Honey about this matter but we have same thing in mind (hahaha)
@bhabycatch013 (9150)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
mommy jane told you?well just pray and hope that Zay don't have this ADHD he is just a super hyperactive and playful kid.
Don't worry much lot of people out there who love Zayzay and willing to give you support if ever
@GardenGerty (160696)
• United States
24 Mar 11
I think you are over thinking things. He is making up for lost time and lack of energy. How old is he? Is he on any medications long term? Does he get caffeine? Is there time to play outside everyday? All these things would be things I would look at before I put a label on him.
@GardenGerty (160696)
• United States
25 Mar 11
Does he take allergy or asthma medicines right now? Either one of those can make a child act hyper.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
25 Mar 11
He never took anything so far after the surgery.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
25 Mar 11
He's turning 4 on April. I could also guess, if medication for a long term will be considered, maybe yes. He took a lot of medicine even before the doctors confirmed his sleep apnea. His previous doctors gave him different brands of antibiotics. He always had cough and colds and fever. Almost every other month, we had to visit the doctors. And almost every visit, they have to change his medicine, strength and dosage. Caffeine, no. But he has a lot of time to play outside.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
25 Mar 11
It is my opinion that ADHD is not some sort of disease that randomly selects children, who then need medication in order to control it. That is how mainstream doctors who love to deal out medications like society to see it.
To me ADHD is nothing more than sensitivity to the chemicals that are in foods. When I was a child, it was red or green cordial that sent my hypo. These days, there are many additives in all sorts of processed foods, so that when the system gets overloaded with them, it acts differently than it should. This is when you get symptoms which are commonly known as ADHD these days.
It is no coincidence that the rise in processed foods has also seen the rise in this disorder in recent years. It can be fixed by getting more natural organic foods and less processed foods. I have seen people here go off their ADHD medication just by changing their diet.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
hello neil,
There you are again my dear brother
Zayzay is fine okay?
Here's what you need to do..
stop reading whatever research you are doing right now.
enjoy zayzay being hyperactive (do you want a kid that who just sit in a corner having his own world?...i bet you would prefer ADHD)
OR...again...go and have the neuro test
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
sis, i am enjoying him. i even wonder how will our lives be without Zayzay in the house.
but sometimes, he leads to some arguments and misunderstanding and etc. sometimes, i think about injecting tranquilizer to him.
ok, i will stop reading from now on. but you can't stop me from discussing this, right?
neuro test? no budget. hehehe...
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
Once he grow up and behave,i am sure you will be missing those days when he is so hyperactive.
By then...you have another discussion saying "how i wish zayzay is hyperactive like before"
my answer will be
"you don't need to have a neuro test,you need to confine yourself at Mandaluyong m*ntal hospital"
@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
26 Mar 11
With everything you have described, it sounds like you could really benefit from a more holistic treatment. I would highly recommend a vegan diet as well as a good meditation technique under a proper, well-established instructor / guide. You can see for yourself all the links that come up when you run a search for "Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder + Vegan Organic Diet". Many medical & alternative practitioners from around the world have had a lot of success with their patients using these two treatments alone & no other medication, etc. One example is Dr. Giuseppe Pagnoni, who is also a Neuroscientist at Emory University, Georgia, USA. He has this to say:
"…Meditation could help treat attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety disorder, major depression and other disorders marked by distracting thoughts."
Also, Jon Kabat-Zinn, Ph.D., Neuroscientist, University of Massachusetts Medical School, USA has this to say:
"Meditators move activity in their brains away from the stress-prone right frontal cortex to the calmer left frontal cortex. This decreases the negative effects of stress, mild depression and anxiety. There is also less activity in the amygdala, where the brain processes fear."
This link shows the study finding that ADHD is linked to pesticide exposure.
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/study-links-pesticides-and-adhd.html#
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
Well if he is between 2-5 years old it is difficult yet to determine if he has ADHD. Between these ages children are really that hyperactive because he just discovered a lot of his skills, like running, exploring on his own that is why they are hyper at many times. But this should slow down as they age. So for now observe his behavior but not to the expense that you are having an anxiety attack. Relax and enjoy his boyhood it is but just once in a lifetime we see this moments. sometimes I miss my son who is now 9 yo already. Grown up already and I miss those days that he runs around.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
If you are that eager you can have it evaluated by a child psychologist but it would of course be costly. But I think for now I do not yet suspect that it is but of course am not that right person to assess that. But anyhow just think of it as a phase a child has to go. I think with proper disciplining it might be fixed but of course if he is indeed an ADHD case it would need additional intervention to be implemented since it cannot be corrected with the usual disciplining of children. For now, just stay calm, observe and assess it, if you really think he is then let the professional assess it.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
and that is the reason why i keep searching, researching, reading and thinking. the cost of the professional fee alone is too expensive. i have contacted several support group for parents with children with ADHD... i only i can get a free consultation or evaluation...
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
what do you think is the right age of the child to consider him as one with ADHD? Does ADHD only starts at this age or from birth or what?
I agree, these are the ages of children where they learn a lot of things and do things on their own. but Zayzay's hyperactive seems not time clocked or no low level. he's always on the move, etc. the house will only settle down when he's asleep.
Anxiety attack - i had it last about two years ago, if i can remember well, before it the last attack two days ago.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Mar 11
Hi Neil...glad to here our little champion is doing ok. He surely is a bunch of energy. For sure, have him checked out...better to be safe than sorry but don't just settle for one opinion, get 2 or even 3. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Cheers and good luck!
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Mar 11
hi neildc oh do relax he is just getting over all the strain of the sleep apnea and the surgery and all, he will soon settle down but remember before he was probably a little placid as he was being derived
of good quality sleep.,so hes just recovering from all of this and it making him a little hyper. you are probably really overreacting too I mean for a child his age a little mischievousness is really kinda natural.ADHD is in my estimation highly overrated. every child thats not placid gets oarents all worried somethings wrong with them. and i wou ld bet most are perfectly normal.also Neil you and your wife have also been through the wringer of all his illness, and the worry of funds, and the surgery and all. so now you need to relax and count your blessings. I do think ypu
are just anxious and overreacing. hugs to all from hatley.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
25 Mar 11
Thanks Hatley. I will remember all these. Soon I will come back again for another story about him getting more improvements.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
24 Mar 11
nEIL, QUIT TRYING TO FIND something wrong w/Zayzay & just let him be a little boy & enhoy his life,
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
24 Mar 11
nEIL, U ARE WHAT I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING MANY TIMES. U are a 'worry wart'. lol
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
24 Mar 11
You have every right to be concerned, Neil. But, he may only be hyperactive, without the attention deficit. Here are some things to look for in ADHD:
Signs and symptoms of ADHD may include:
1. Forgetfulness. He often forgets or loses routine items, like his lunch box or
backpack.
2. Trouble paying attention to details. He doesn't appear to be listening and
struggles with following directions.
3. Overly impulsive. He often acts before thinking, without considering consequences or previously discussed plans.
4. Over focused on tasks. He may get "stuck" in a routine or behavior and have trouble disengaging.
5. Has trouble shifting focus. This behavior becomes especially noticeable at
school.
6. Doesn't complete tasks. When assigned a project or chore, he finds it hard to finish and is easily distracted by his "more interesting" surroundings.
7. Constantly fidgets and squirms. When asked to sit in a chair, he may try to get up and run around or fidget and squirm endlessly.
8. Talks excessively. He routinely interrupts others and doesn't give them a
chance to respond.
9. Can't keep powerful emotions (good or bad) in check. He may over react with outbursts of anger or throw a temper tantrum that seems unwarranted.
10. Has difficulty waiting for his turn. In class or when playing games he grows impatient and irritable while waiting.
I was a typesetter, typing a medical textbook when my son was 8 years old. His teachers up to that point had ALL asked me what his problem was. I said I didn't know. Then, when I was typing about ADHD one day, I was typing this list of symptoms and, before I had finished typing the list, I was on the phone to my son's doctor, telling him that I think my son had ADHD. He said, "Let's get him tested" and we did. Yes, it turned out that my son did have ADHD. I only knew because of this list I was typing. I hope it helps you with Zayzay!
Also, as a "somewhat follower" of astrology, I have noticed some similarities between Zayzay and myself when I was little. Since he and I are both Aries, it MAY just be an Aries trait that we're always a bit faster on our feet than our brains can keep up with or maybe it's our brains that are far ahead of our feet but, either way, we tend to be very, very active people.
My mother told me not long after my son was diagnosed with ADHD that I probably also had ADHD but was never diagnosed. There was no name for it when I was young but I had a lot of the same symptoms as my son.
So, I'm not sure if it's an Aries thing or if both Zayzay and I have ADHD. Well, the "H" part of that ended a LONG time ago for me. I'm anything but hyperactive these days! Still, I have a hard time concentrating.
The only way to know for sure is to have him tested. There is also not much you can do for him except to TRY to teach him how to deal with certain situations. My son had to have his schoolwork cut in half. If he had a page of homework, I had to break it down to two shorter pages so he wasn't overwhelmed by the whole thing at once. I had to teach him how to remember things. (I use association to remember things.) We worked together a lot while I tried to help him learn how to learn with certain "calming" techniques.
Not much helped, though, except with medication. I hated giving him that medication and, once the dosage was increased to what I considered to be a large amount, I said no more medication!
No, there's really not much you can do with a child with ADHD but love them, try to hold on to your sanity and know that they will eventually grow up and get their own home.
Good luck with Zayzay, Neil. I know what it's like to have a son like that. It's amazing that I have any sanity left at all.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
Signs and symptoms of ADHD may include:
1. Forgetfulness - slightly
2. Trouble paying attention to details. He doesn't appear to be listening and
struggles with following directions. - sometimes
3. Overly impulsive. - no comment
4. Over focused on tasks. He may get "stuck" in a routine or behavior and have trouble disengaging. - acting like the power rangers?
5. Has trouble shifting focus. This behavior becomes especially noticeable at
school. -let's see
6. Doesn't complete tasks. When assigned a project or chore, he finds it hard to finish and is easily distracted by his "more interesting" surroundings. - sometimes
7. Constantly fidgets and squirms. When asked to sit in a chair, he may try to get up and run around or fidget and squirm endlessly. - most of the times
8. Talks excessively. - super
9. Can't keep powerful emotions (good or bad) in check. He may over react with outbursts of anger or throw a temper tantrum that seems unwarranted. - check
10. Has difficulty waiting for his turn. - check
Does it need to be a perfect score to say he really has ADHD?
Anyways, one friend suggested to divert his attention to academics. We tried to do it slowly. We give him books, paper and pen, etc. But most of the time, he loses concentration or interest. He's really more interested watching the Power Rangers or Ben 10 on DVD. He knows everything when it comes to it, he do it by himself. operates the machine, chooses which chapter he wants to watch, etc.
Okay, give us more time to cope with his behavior. I will keep trying to forget this thing exists. We'll try to hold on to our sanity. I hope we don't lose it.
And by the way, birthdays are birthdays and it will surely come each year. Yours and Zayzay's are coming in less than a month time. I wish you more good health. And I pray you will have more of it to come.
Love you.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
26 Mar 11
Most of those symptoms describe my son when we are not vigilant enough with his diet. If he has too many processed foods in a period of time, then he does show most of those ADD symptoms, not the H in ADHD though. He is definitely not hypo, but can be at times as can all boys his age.
When we are as vigilant as we can be with his diet and feed him mainly organic fresh produce, he is perfectly fine and very speedy with all of his chores, school work etc. ADHD is the product of processed foods in my opinion. It is no coincidence that this disorder has risen in popularity along with the popularity of highly processed foods over the last couple of decades.
Chemicals cause chemical imbalances. It is as simple as that!
@celticeagle (167015)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Mar 11
Hyper is normal. The apnea could be from being hyper. Sounds logical to me. My daughter was hyper when she was young and I was told by her doctor that I could either put her on medication or moderate her snack foods that have preservatives in them. I did the former and it worked fine. I wish you luck.
@celticeagle (167015)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Mar 11
I would think so. And him getting hyper now after the surgery seems normal.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
25 Mar 11
How old is Zayzay again? Well you know sometimes restlessness is part of the whole childhood thing. Zayzay probably understands a bit that after a certain procedure done on him he is now healthier and so he turns to fun and games to prove how healthy he really is!
Now about ADHD there are criteria to consider before a doctor diagnoses ADHD. I have not memorized it since it's been centuries since my last Psychia subject but a child with ADHD never stays put, has very short attention span and cannot stay on one task. No task ever gets done. He can barely handle any forms of communication, etc etc....
Try telling Zayzay a story and if you finish one storybook because he stayed to listen, that's a good sign.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
25 Mar 11
Zayzay will be turning 4 this coming April. I wonder at what age do actually is the right time to consider him for evaluation?
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
26 Mar 11
Have you heard about Terrible twos? And fearsome four? These are usually the stage wherein a child is at his MOST mischievous state especially for a boy.
But if things get really peculiar, you might want to seek for evaluation as soon as possible. I dunno if there's right age to rule out ADHD but you might wanna got to the professionals because I am not the expert too in these areas.
@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
24 Mar 11
Hi Neil! Very glad to hear little ZayZay has recovered nicely from the operation.
Do not worry about his hyperactivity for the moment. He is probably not used to having such energy because he is getting the sleep he needs now. Plus, he is a boy. Boys are more hyper than girls. Find activities for him to work off that excess energy he has. He is a boy, and boys have tons of energy. Maybe you are not used to seeing him like this.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
hi rose,
i should have thought this long ago or should i say, i know this long before. that boys are boys and they are more energetic and love to play more, etc.
yes, he has recovered nicely and he is even better than those who had the same surgery. the doctors even amazed how fast he recovered, to think that he had this only at 3 years old. while the others, a lot older than him had a longer time to fully recovered.
i really think and said it to myself, i will just enjoy him, now that he is still young. i could miss these moments when he gets older.
but even how much i try to forget that he has this disorder (if he really has it), i keep in mind that he is only and still a kid, his hyperactivity, mischievousness, fidgetiness, etc. we enjoy his activeness most of the time but you could also get tired, literally, if you have to follow his every move when he starts running when he's outside the house.
but there are really times that you could lose temper. and it's sad that some times, you will have arguments with the other members of the family or you might scold or punish the kid.
Maybe you are not used to seeing him like this. - we are, but he seems to be at the highest level now.
@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
24 Mar 11
I am soo happy to hear he has recovered even more quickly than the others. Perhaps it is all the prayer going up for him from around the world through those of us on Mylot. We should keep in our hearts also those others who are going through surgery that God would touch them with His healing hand and deliver them from the affliction they suffer.
There is nothing wrong with punishing a child for doing something wrong. I know our society frowns upon it; but I also know the devastation of lives that can and often do happen to children as they enter adulthood who are not properly corrected. Without proper discipline, a child can develop behavioral problems and can even manifest into psychological disorders.
Good luck with precious ZayZay! He sounds like a bundle of love and joy.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
i really believe your prayers helped a lot that he recovered faster than we all expected. he's not only our bundle of love and joy but also one of the many ANGELS of mylot.
@ellie333 (21016)
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24 Mar 11
Hi Neildc, People are too quick to try to blame a child being active on ADHD these days, firstly I would check whether it could be a certain food product that is making him this way. Most boys are very active anyway. With my own son, I get physically worn out but he is just being a normal child, he will have his moments where he will sit for ages drawing which most children with ADHD cannot seem to do for long before being distracted to something else. The schools here do not usually start recognising it in a child until they are at least 5/6 so as your son is so young I would wait to see how he is once at school before paying out to get a diagnosis. I have a nephew with Asperges and the calmer and more routine there is around him the better he is. Enjoy having fun with your son, he sounds a delight although a very active one. Huggles. Ellie :D
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
hi ellie.
i thought about ADHD when i learned about the symptoms/complications/effects of sleep apnea, which my son had since birth. i said since birth because even a four months old, he already snores like an adult.
i could not also blame the food he eats because, he is not our only child. and his hyperactivity is nothing compared to the other kids. i just can't help but think, is this really normal, for his age?
it is also one thing, the school i am thinking about. how could he be in school, next year or maybe two years from now? i could not imagine how will the public school teacher will assess him. and by that time, i hope it will not be too late.
we really enjoy his activeness, especially if he is doing things like imitating the power rangers, singing and dancing. but it is really an exhausting task to follow him where he goes, restlessly running from here and there, once he's out of the house, like in the park, malls, church, etc.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
24 Mar 11
I cannot say for sure of course but I doubt Zayzay has ADHD. My guess is that he probably has not felt as good or as energetic as he does now that he is getting adequate rest and sleep each day. The fact that he’s had so much attention focused on him may also have something to do with his hyperactivity now that the fuss has lessened somewhat. I would keep an eye on him and have him checked out by more than one doctor if you are still worried. You wouldn't be a good father if you didn't have such concerns...
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
hi paula.
i heard about hyperactivity is one of the many effects/symptoms of sleep apnea. his hyperactivity was one reason that i believed he had sleep apnea, even before he was diagnosed.
when he still have his tonsils and apnea was still there at his sleeps, he was already that hyperactive. and so, when they were removed, we thought his hyperactivity will lessen or will eventually slowed down or something. but no, he's even better and better, hyperactivity at its highest level.
i heard about the doctors and the specialist in ADHD here. but oh my, they cost a lot for a single appointment with them.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
Hello Neildc,
Maybe he's just fine and being active, I know he was shy during the first mylot conference. I think he needs to live up his life, as long as he's not hurting other kids or any of you're family then he's just fine. I think it's best to let him be that he can be, who knows, he might become a celebrity one day if you give him the chance to.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
hiya buddy!
he's fine for sure but then, you really have to be aware when you are together especially when he starts acting like ben 10 or red power ranger.
the first conference? no, he wasn't shy. have you forgotten that was only 4 days after the surgery. of course, he was still in recovery. it's now almost 4 months after, so imagine that, he's more than a hundred percent recovered.
being a star is another thing. if he feels to enter the showbiz one day, i will give him my 100% support.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
sounds easy but it's not without enough budget.
@katie0 (5203)
• Japan
24 Mar 11
Thinking too much makes me anxious and even sad sometimes, I hear the great genious of history like Eistein used to stay for hours with a blind mind, just being him self, not thinking. We have to moderate everything we use and the brain is the same thing, I believe everyone when they think too much they be something, my mother used to get angry.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Mar 11
just like my wife, easily gets angry when there is a lot of things she needed to think about.