Does Capitalism REALLY work?
By PhotoDrummer
@PhotoDrummer (15)
March 25, 2011 5:31am CST
Does Capitalism REALLY work within our society, or does it just breed greed, corruption and homelessness? But humans are also ambitious, we need space to grow. Sometimes I feel capitalism restricts us and at times preoccupies our minds so we pay less attention to the things that really need our attention. WHat are your thoughts?
6 responses
@sashakiddo (1102)
• United States
25 Mar 11
capitalism does not work, at least in our current global situation.
The only way I see capitalism working is after everyone is on an equal standpoint. Right now, since we don't all have equal access to education, shelter, and food, capitalism does not work. Anyone who says it works hasn't seen starving people in undeveloped countries.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
25 Mar 11
Is one country's capitalism supposed to work for the entire planet? Or are you saying that one person's greed in country A steals food and shelter from someone in country B?
"Underdeveloped" is the key word. Whose fault is it that many countries haven't taken the initiative to build up? Every place on earth was once nothing but landscape. People came in and built.
@sashakiddo (1102)
• United States
27 Mar 11
I think you are saying what I said in different words, because I agree with you.
I would say capitalism is wrong because it asserts that people are on an equal playing field. It assumes that all people are equally equipped to compete. Is that not what they are saying when they say capitalism is "fair"?
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
27 Mar 11
Well, I would ask exactly how it is unfair?
Sure, a guy who was born into a wealthy family, his father a businessman, has a better opportunity to make a lot of money than someone born to a poor family. His life would undoubtedly have more advantages.
But for a guy born into a poor family, his father a janitor, he still has opportunity to start a business or receive an education and a great career, etc.
You're speaking of equal opportunity in the sense that everyone has the chance to do the exact same thing - like become a PC millionaire or something.
No system grants that.
People compete for different things in life. Your goal may be to become incredibly rich, to own and operate a billion-dollar business. You might never get there. Does that mean life is unfair?
You might also simply want to hold down a basic career and live a simple life, yet you end up laid off when the company you worked for closes down. Again, is that somehow unfair and the fault of capitalism?
They say capitalism is "fair" in the context of a system like socialism that basically holds EVERYONE down so no one feels that someone else has an unfair advantage.
There are alsways going to be those who become really wealthy and those who stay poor. There is no system that I know of that brings people up in order to close the gap. They just bring the other side down.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
25 Mar 11
Well, capitalism obviously isn't an everyone-gets-rich system. It's a system where you must compete in the market. If you have a good idea, a good work ethic, ingenuity, etc, you can make something of yourself. A free market dictates what goes on.
Assuming that capitalism is why people are poor or homeless is to assume that there is a fixed amount of money lying around in a big pile. The more some people take from this pile, the less there is to spread around to everyone else.
That's false.
Bill Gates' 50 billion dollars doesn't mean 5 billion people have $10 less now than they had before. It doesn't work like that.
As far as poorest people go, the ones who are starving in countries with no water or crops or jobs, capitalism works better for them than any other "ism," at least on a world scale, because more charity is able to provide. When governments use taxpayer dollars to help lift people up--call that whatever "ism" you'd like; I prefer hugegovernmentism--they're running up debt and are wasting far more than is being used to help.
I'm not sure which "ism" out there would see to it that everyone had a home or everyone had a car. That would require hugegovernmentism to take from people to give to others.
Is that really a better system than capitalism? I'm not so sure.
There will always be greedy people out there. But you better believe that greed is a trait of humanity and not one solely of capitialism. People are greedy. Systems cannot be greedy. They cannot be anything in those terms.
Any other "ism" would just switch the greed. Instead of people working to create wealth to spend on whatever their selfish needs might be, it would be government standing in and saying "No, you can only keep X, we'll spend the Y on what we see fit."
What things need our thoughts that capitalism is stealing attention from? People striving to make a good life for themselves is also a pretty worthy cause. Not being 100% selfless doesn't necessarily make you selfish.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
27 Mar 11
Wealth is created all the time. And for America in particular, where Bill Gates is, money for his company's products comes from outside of the country as well.
My point is that people are not "losing" money simply because Bill Gates "gains" money.
If he makes $50 billion, that doesn't mean he just stole $50 billion that no one else will ever be able to get.
If money is trade, it will come back around to people when they have something to put forth worth getting it.
@sashakiddo (1102)
• United States
28 Mar 11
If the money comes from outside the country, that still means someone is paying. One major problem of capitalist trade today is that people still think their country is the only one that exists. Most Americans don't acknowledge the fact that its companies are monopolizing everything. We still have Walmart taking advantage of Chinese workers. That's huge evidence itself.
@sashakiddo (1102)
• United States
27 Mar 11
So if Bill Gates made 50 billion dollars, where did it come from? I think it does mean mean people do have less. Money is trade.
@tarachand (3895)
• India
27 Nov 11
Capitalism is not wrong, misuse of the freedoms' that capitalism offers are what ails the capitalist societies. Corruption is prevalent in communist, socialist countries, in monarchies as well under military rule, it is not just a malady found in capitalist societies alone.
I think it is incorrect to blame any ideology for corruption, blame the human misuse of a very good system of human progress that capitalism offers.
@tarachand (3895)
• India
27 Nov 11
Now to the first part of your discussion. Yes, capitalism works rather well in a corrupt world. Advances in all aspects of live since the adoption in a major way by a large chunk of humanity proves this.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
21 Jul 11
Capitalism always works. Every single time it is tried, it works.
China: Embraced Socialism, became a 3rd world country with mass starvation and poverty.
China: Embraced Capitalism, and is the fastest growing economy in the world.
Venezuela: Embraced Socialism, and is set to be the worst economy in all of latin America.
Brazil: Embraced Capitalism, and is set to be the best economy in all of latin America.
Cuba: Embraced Socialism, and is a 3rd world country.
India: Embraced Capitalism, and is a fast growing economy.
And there are hundreds of examples.
Capitalism always works, every single time without question.
But how does it restrict us? Restrict us from what?
If you are restricted from something, it is a choice you have made. People are controlled by greed, when they choose to be greedy. And people in any other economic system can be greedy. That is more a matter of the mind, than a result of an economic system.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Jun 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-o0kD9f6wo&feature=related
Take a look at this video from the 70's. The speaker is Milton Friedman was (deceased) a Nobel Prize winner in Economics.
It is treating corporations as individuals that hurts people. THAT came about by government interference in our economy.
@2loserzhaha (111)
• United States
25 Mar 11
Capitalism would work for a very small civilization, like a tribe or something. Some tribes in africa and South America had a similiar system that worked to an extent, where everyone worked to get food and supplies that were divided equally. In an ideal society it would work because greed wouldn't be a factor and lack of resources wouldn't be either.
But the countries that tend to be capitalist are really the worst ones for it.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
21 Jul 11
Really. Our society is one where anyone can succeed and be as wealthy as they choose to be.
South African tribes are far worse off by any measure.
The idea that greed wouldn't be a factor, is a joke. If there are humans involved, greed is a factor. It is inherent to our nature.